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[javascript-dev] Re: Re: Re: jsui was a mistake.

Zola looseonthestreet at gmail.com
Thu Oct 4 13:50:19 MDT 2007


Joshua,

Yes, making a lua extern takes just a few hours of work with luabind. I've done so. But the key issue here is something else.

Sketch is great. jit.gl.sketch + jit.gl.pwindow works well in the mostly-monolithic scenario. While I have no issues pushing towards eight sketches, it doesn't work out for atomic.

With Sketch, I would not create a whole set of building block UI components to use everywhere and love. I use Sketch for centerpiece UI's. Not for lego-bricks.

Atomicity is what JSUI is supposed to be able to do.
And that's where it fails too.
It's too slow for that.

So really, there is no use-case for JSUI:
We don't want it for atomic, (watch everything freeze up completely.)(hear your music die)
And we don't want it for what Sketch does.

I am driving at a stronger point here.
A powerful, fast, take-it-for-granted-that-it-just-works-fundamental-essential-building-block-of-the-whole-entire-MAX-idea,
A way of building UI components to go inside of Max,
Perfectly. As a core-feature of Max,
is so important.
It's the basics, man.
It baffles me how Cycling has placed such little importance on getting this right,
and allows JSUI to remain a failure.
The need is so obvious.

- Invect


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