[maxmsp] change Session - MIDI lost

Le 5 juil. 07 à 18:47, jln a écrit :

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> Le 5 juil. 07 à 18:20, Stefan Tiedje a écrit :
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>> On Linux I can stay logged in and just switch to another account.  
>> I haven't seen this on OS X, there, it seems, I have to log out,  
>> which closes all applications, to log in as another user, I guess  
>> I am missing somthing...
>
> You can allow this with "activer la permutation rapide  
> d'utilisateur" in the account preference panel. If I remember well,  
> it keeks all applications opened.


It's exactly whatt I'm using. I have separate my work session and my  
private session. Both are opened and I can swith form one to the  
other one.




Le 6 juil. 07 à 00:19, Stefan Tiedje a écrit :


> Mihalic Alexander schrieb:
>> Hope it's more clear now.... ;-)
>
> Yes, that explains the problem, I guess the assignment of the  
> letters to the ports gets screwed between the two sessions. I would  
> take care that both users have identical Audio/Midisetups, maybe  
> differences between the two might confuse things...

I use the MIDI only in my work session, not in my private session.

> I stopped using the letter assignment long ago, because using  
> meaning full names is so much more convenient. I always have a  
> midiinfo fill a menu. Then you could easily just bang all menus  
> after you switched and it will be fine... (requires to over howl  
> all of your patches though, but I think its worth it...)
> As you need same assignments for your different setups anyway, you  
> also have to take care that all instrument names are the same, like  
> "Keyboard", "Faderbox", "Synth1", "Synth2" etc... You could come  
> along without the menu and put the names into the midi objects, but  
> then you're in trouble if you go to your friend who has different  
> names...
> You can also use pattrstorage to save different setups for  
> different computers, that way you could even automate the  
> assignment...

Ok, I understund Stefan, but it will not change my problem - little  
does it matter how you assign your MIDI objects (menu, double click  
or by argument) they lost this link after you change the sessions.
What I saw now, it was that when you double click on the object  
"ctlin" for example, and choose one input (for exemple 5th input on  
the menu, after the change of the sessions when you duble click on  
the object again - there are not this 5th imput selected, but every  
time the first input selected! Something is broken inside Max andd  
Max doesn't now redirect the MIDI.....

About the problem with the names - you are right, it's realy not  
clear to put the names like "a" "b" etc.. but it's only way to have  
your patch compatible Mac-Windows - and that's what is important for  
us. I am developping on the Mac but the personne who is working with  
the instrument take PC witth him to the school.... and the soft has  
to be compatibble immediatly to the differents machines into the  
differents studios too, and we buy the new intterfaces, and I have to  
developpe the patch on my Mac, but tested on the other and with other  
intterface etc .....

Windows don't have the AudioMIDI setup..... and there are only  
"Abrev" letters communs between two systems, that's why is my choice  
to put the same names like "Abbrev" lettters! In your patch you put  
the name "a" to redirect your MIDI input - on Mac you declare this  
name on "AudiMIDI setup" and Max know where it's going. On windows  
there arre not "AudiMIDI setup", but user put very simply "Abbrev" in  
Max "MIDI Setup" into letters "a" "b" etc... in order and that's all!  
The names are abbreviations and it's mean you use the same "names"  
every where and with any MIDI interface. If not - when you change the  
interface, windows put others names to the ports......

thanks guys for youor ideas, hope now that devellopers of Max will  
ffind the bug... ;-)))



Alexander Mihalic
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