From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Oct 1 00:30:17 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Oct 1 00:30:22 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: How to disable DSP in a subpatch? In-Reply-To: <392DF1B2-9726-4259-B643-DA5D3013D52B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c808.470093f8@www.cycling74.com> Quote: jln wrote on Sun, 30 September 2007 23:19 ---------------------------------------------------- > > Le 30 sept. 07 ? 18:56, Stefan Tiedje a ?crit : > > > If replying to a mail, the first action, always, is to delete all > > stuff which isn't necessary to point to the context... > > > > Those who receive digests will thank you... > > Don't know for digest receivers (I thought digest mode wasn't > available anymore) but for sure, after having asked to Wallace, he > and other moderators of the forum will be happy not to have to do it > themselves... That's right, Stefan and Julien, thanks for mentioning this. Mattijs > > Best, > > Julien. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From e.lyon at qub.ac.uk Mon Oct 1 00:43:57 2007 From: e.lyon at qub.ac.uk (Eric Lyon) Date: Mon Oct 1 00:44:01 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: bashfest~ chopper~ could you try In-Reply-To: <1079b050709301450m5e80d7c9g7982a7f84200e5eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c809.4700972c@www.cycling74.com> > For sanity's sake, I might suggest putting a version message in the > external that can be queried so everyone's on the same page and knows > precisely which version is being used. > Good idea. It's already in the externals under development, though not in the currently released ones. Eric From tomlists at mamito.com Mon Oct 1 01:02:48 2007 From: tomlists at mamito.com (Tommaso Perego) Date: Mon Oct 1 01:03:27 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <001701c803bf$e8fb9da0$69067046@palomba> References: <42BE8DBC-B099-422B-8DC6-F1FDCEE57D8D@mamito.com> <46FE3769.1020102@gmail.com> <001701c803bf$e8fb9da0$69067046@palomba> Message-ID: <56EDACE6-72C5-44F9-BE03-7138E407EBBB@mamito.com> i made this with a gamepad controller by saitek i think everyone may choose his best instruments / controller / whatever to express what it's in mind... no one is sweating more than others or whatever.... iphone is basically for fun right now, but a controller with a touch screen so handy and not 1.200$ as the lemur... with also motion sensor on... it's kind of interesting and appealing. Go Masayuki GO!!! i tell you im buying also this right now to real time convert 12 channels to binaural http://www.3dconnexion.com/3dmouse/spacenavigator.php there's always some research around these things... On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Anthony Palomba wrote: > sweet! iPhone, here I come. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Parag K Mital" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:30 AM > Subject: Re: [maxmsp] aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 > > >> i want. >> >> Tommaso Perego wrote: >>> Hey look at here ahahahahha >>> >>> sorry for saying this but... >>> I LOVE YOU!!! >>> >>> >>> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_eb8a9RH4* >>> >>> >>> !!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 29, 2007, at 6:26 AM, Masayuki Akamatsu wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I published "aka.iPhone / Experiment 2" at: >>>> http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/#aka_iphone_ex2 >>>> >>>> >>>> It's actually a native iPhone application which sends OSC >>>> messages to >>>> your computer. You can receive them with udpreceive and handle them >>>> easily. >>>> >>>> I know it lacks many features at this time (ex. internet >>>> configuration, GUI arrangement...). But it is a quick and dirty >>>> version before our iPhones become bricks :-) >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Masayuki Akamatsu >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> maxmsp mailing list >>>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> maxmsp mailing list >>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20071001/ee4e0eb7/attachment.htm From tomlists at mamito.com Mon Oct 1 01:20:02 2007 From: tomlists at mamito.com (Tommaso Perego) Date: Mon Oct 1 01:20:14 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <56EDACE6-72C5-44F9-BE03-7138E407EBBB@mamito.com> References: <42BE8DBC-B099-422B-8DC6-F1FDCEE57D8D@mamito.com> <46FE3769.1020102@gmail.com> <001701c803bf$e8fb9da0$69067046@palomba> <56EDACE6-72C5-44F9-BE03-7138E407EBBB@mamito.com> Message-ID: <8103D9E4-D338-4F7C-9F1C-1607AADC1210@mamito.com> oops sorry this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHB_q-g7rek On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:02 AM, Tommaso Perego wrote: > i made this with a gamepad controller by saitek > > > > i think everyone may choose his best instruments / controller / > whatever to express what it's in mind... > no one is sweating more than others or whatever.... > > iphone is basically for fun right now, > but a controller with a touch screen so handy and not 1.200$ as the > lemur... > with also motion sensor on... > it's kind of interesting and appealing. Go Masayuki GO!!! > > i tell you im buying also this right now > to real time convert 12 channels to binaural > > http://www.3dconnexion.com/3dmouse/spacenavigator.php > > there's always some research around these things... > > > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Anthony Palomba wrote: > >> sweet! iPhone, here I come. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Parag K Mital" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 >> >> >>> i want. >>> >>> Tommaso Perego wrote: >>>> Hey look at here ahahahahha >>>> >>>> sorry for saying this but... >>>> I LOVE YOU!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_eb8a9RH4* >>>> >>>> >>>> !!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 29, 2007, at 6:26 AM, Masayuki Akamatsu wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I published "aka.iPhone / Experiment 2" at: >>>>> http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/#aka_iphone_ex2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's actually a native iPhone application which sends OSC >>>>> messages to >>>>> your computer. You can receive them with udpreceive and handle >>>>> them >>>>> easily. >>>>> >>>>> I know it lacks many features at this time (ex. internet >>>>> configuration, GUI arrangement...). But it is a quick and dirty >>>>> version before our iPhones become bricks :-) >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Masayuki Akamatsu >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> maxmsp mailing list >>>>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>>>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> maxmsp mailing list >>>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> maxmsp mailing list >>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >> > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20071001/901fcafc/attachment.htm From tremblap at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 01:21:49 2007 From: tremblap at gmail.com (Pierre Alexandre Tremblay) Date: Mon Oct 1 01:21:49 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: biquad~ 'clear' message bug report? In-Reply-To: <1c7bf.46ff7c82@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c7bf.46ff7c82@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <7E7637CD-C555-4B0E-84C7-20AC65D4338F@gmail.com> wow, this is a very, very old post... like 5 or 6 months ago! Did you just receive it? >> 1. open biquad~ help >> 2. boost the b1 factor to blow the filter (poc!) >> 3. bring the b1 factor to 0. > > Bizarre, but I can't actually get the filter to blow on my > system... I can't figure out why not - anyway - no matter how high > I push b1 it won't blow.... Funny, I have not tried this under my new Intel-based machine, and you are right, it does not blow. It freaks out, then when returned to normal the clear button is not even needed... Any explanation from the cycling crew? pa From n_q at gmx.net Mon Oct 1 01:31:59 2007 From: n_q at gmx.net (Nils Quak) Date: Mon Oct 1 01:32:03 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: bashfest~ chopper~ could you try In-Reply-To: <1c80a.47009890@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c80e.4700a26f@www.cycling74.com> cheers, will try this, when i'm back from work From vboehm at gmx.ch Mon Oct 1 02:02:26 2007 From: vboehm at gmx.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?volker_b=F6hm?=) Date: Mon Oct 1 02:02:23 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] gain~&linedrive~ equation In-Reply-To: <1c7d3.46ffcea1@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c7d3.46ffcea1@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 30 Sep 2007, at 18:28, FunnyZen wrote: > > Hi all, > > does anybody know what exactly is the equation used in the > linedrive~ and gain~ objects? I think it is not clearly stated. > > Is it y = b*e - a*log(c)*e*x*log(c) > > or y = b*exp{-a*log(c)}*e{x*log(c)} > > or what? i would say the latter is the right direction. i believe it's quite clearly stated in the reference manual. vb #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P flonum 196 206 65 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 70 206 65 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 196 179 260 196617 expr 1. * exp(-127.*log(1.06)) * exp ($f1*log(1.06)); #P number 70 133 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user hslider 70 108 18 128 128 1 0 0; #P newex 70 181 120 196617 linedrive 127 1. 1.06 30; #B color 5; #P connect 1 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 0 0; #P connect 0 0 4 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 3 0 5 0; #P window clipboard copycount 6; From personalcomputermusic at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 02:05:47 2007 From: personalcomputermusic at gmail.com (f.e) Date: Mon Oct 1 02:05:54 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <96717B32-E7E1-48BF-9C6B-561313E5727A@mac.com> References: <1c801.47002d66@www.cycling74.com> <96717B32-E7E1-48BF-9C6B-561313E5727A@mac.com> Message-ID: <4700AA5B.2010201@gmail.com> So don't begin. Don't play your cold virgins. Turntablism was insulting, mostly. Yeah, pleasant time with scratch, beautiful moments, and so what ? f.e f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music >>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com >>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people| vade a ?crit : > Yeah, I dont even know where to begin with that one. Ever seen 'Scratch' ? > > On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Robert Ramirez wrote: > >> >>> Reminds me of this stupid turntablism we had to bear for last 20 years. >>> Only a few guys like Kid Koala were able to use this shit as an >>> instrument, and in only 25 minutes performances. After that, he's >>> sweating like the Red Hot Chili Peppers... >> >> very insulting and ignorant comment, by the way. >> but whatever. >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > *v a d e //* > > *www.vade.info* > *abstrakt.vade.info* > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Mon Oct 1 02:08:44 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Mon Oct 1 02:08:47 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: easy way to open .exe files from max In-Reply-To: <1c636.46fa5b65@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c636.46fa5b65@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4700AB0C.6070704@addcom.de> autogusto schrieb: > sorry, launch an application something like the > > ;max launchbrowser though in windows That should work in Windows as well, but you have to point it to a document which is supposed to open the application like myletter.doc will open OpenOffice if you assigned the .doc extension to OpenOffice (If you didn't, it would probably open this other closed source moloch, who's name I can't remember... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Mon Oct 1 02:13:46 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Mon Oct 1 02:13:52 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] scripting query In-Reply-To: <1c64d.46fa7add@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c64d.46fa7add@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4700AC3A.3020707@addcom.de> robin foster schrieb: > is there a scripting command to select/delete only named objects of a > perticular type? ie, could I say something like, "delete only outlets > with names", or even "how many outlets with names are there?". > failing that, is there a command for reporting how many of a > particular object are in a patch, named or not? Within Javascript I guess, but if you give names with numbers to the objects, you can easily construct something even more convenient with a combination of uzi and sprinf... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From letz at grame.fr Mon Oct 1 04:25:46 2007 From: letz at grame.fr (Stephane Letz) Date: Mon Oct 1 04:25:51 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Jack and Kontakt2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c815.4700cb29@www.cycling74.com> Still cannot reproduce the problem here on a MacIntel Pro with iTunes, Kontakt2 and Max 4.6.3. Please send crash logs. From letz at grame.fr Mon Oct 1 04:27:25 2007 From: letz at grame.fr (Stephane Letz) Date: Mon Oct 1 04:27:29 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Max 5: What It Is (and Isn't) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c816.4700cb8c@www.cycling74.com> What about multi-core machines support? From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Mon Oct 1 04:41:21 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Mon Oct 1 04:41:42 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] [ANN] MaxMSP Developer workshop at Ircam (Novemeber 10 & 11) Message-ID: <257118EC-2836-4F92-A832-F4F8E41FD599@e--j.com> Sorry for crost posting? ej > => Information and registration forms can be found on the IRCAM > website: http://www.ircam.fr/673.html?event=611&L=1 > > > MAX/MSP DEVELOPER WORKSHOP > SATURDAY 10 AND SUNDAY 11, NOVEMBER - IRCAM > > For experienced computer programmers only, this workshop will cover > developing Max/MSP, Jitter and FTM objects in Javascript, C and C+ > +. This workshop will be taught in English by IRCAM and Cycling?74 > staff members, however questions and answers in French are possible. > Participants must already master Max/MSP, the Javascript, C and C++ > and development environments XCode (Mac) and Visual Studio (PC). > Limited to 20 participants. > Fee 250 ? (-50% for Forum members). > Contact : Florence.Quilliard@ircam.fr > > > Planning : > > Saturday, November 10 > 9h30 ? Welcome > 10h00-13h00 : Writing objects in Javascript > Emmanuel Jourdan (IRCAM and Cycling '74) > 13h00-14h30 : lunch > 14h30-17h30 : Writing external objects in C > Jeremy Bernstein (Cycling '74) > > Sunday, November 11 > 10h00-13h00 : Writing external objects for Jitter. > Joshua Kit Clayton (Cycling '74) > 13h00-14h30 : lunch > 14h30-17h30 : Writing external objects for FTM. > Norbert Schnell and Diemo Schwarz (IRCAM). From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Mon Oct 1 04:42:46 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Mon Oct 1 04:43:04 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Max 5: What It Is (and Isn't) In-Reply-To: <1c816.4700cb8c@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c816.4700cb8c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <92378921-B71E-41C4-88E7-CCC377D2E155@e--j.com> On 1 oct. 07, at 12:27, Stephane Letz wrote: > What about multi-core machines support? David Z. wrote: "poly~ distributes its subpatchers onto multiple processors, resulting in a substantial performance improvement in many cases" ej From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Mon Oct 1 04:46:25 2007 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Mon Oct 1 04:46:37 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1c7ff.470027e9@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c7ff.470027e9@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Hi, we use Re-Wire for connection Max-PT in our studios. no pb for opening and for connecting audio, but only pb is that max is used like "synthtiser", it's mean you can send an audio signal from Max to PT but not from PT to Max....... you have open the software in specific order: 1 - start PT 2 - start Max/MSP 3 - DSP on (max/MSP) 4 - select driver ad-rewire 5- select your virtual outputs form max/MSP 6- new track PT 7- select RTAS plugin (Digidesign or Instrument menu) Max (mono) 8- click on plug and select input voice from Max that's all All other software is conected with JackAudio - excelent and the bset one I think You can't use jack or Soundflower to connect Max with PT, because.... it's impossible...... There are not inputs from other software to PT and PT doesn't accept use the PT Hardware by another software when PT is running..... only solution is ReWire. without audio retourn to Max maybe it's good idea to put the audio inputs to Max from ReWire? Le 1 oct. 07 ? 00:49, UCDMSRA a ?crit : > > Hi, > > I tried to use Sunflower so that I can rout my sound (8 channels) > from Max to ProTools HD. However, I don't know how to set Sunflower > input in ProTools HD. It seems that ProTools HD only recognized > 192. Can anybody give me a hint? > > thank you so much > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From thambo.godwin at googlemail.com Mon Oct 1 05:51:36 2007 From: thambo.godwin at googlemail.com (robin foster) Date: Mon Oct 1 05:51:42 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: scripting query In-Reply-To: <4700AC3A.3020707@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1c81c.4700df47@www.cycling74.com> that's what i've got. the patch allows the user to create x number of objects as required, and my problem was how to let uzi know how many were currently in the patch, so as not to fill the max window with error messages. i've solved it now, i was just being a bit dense and using peak to track the highest number created rather than just taking the last value recieved. From pure at test.at Mon Oct 1 06:20:10 2007 From: pure at test.at (pure) Date: Mon Oct 1 06:21:43 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] arithmetic operator to change noteinvelocity to either 1 or 0 (on or off, not pressure sensitive) In-Reply-To: References: <1c643.46fa70a1@www.cycling74.com> <46FBD5E7.8000100@test.at> <83DA0CD3-EFAF-4629-A0CB-CBCFF6889D24@e--j.com> <46FD058A.2060703@test.at> Message-ID: <4700E5FA.2030608@test.at> Emmanuel Jourdan wrote: > On 28 sept. 07, at 15:45, pure wrote: > >> Emmanuel Jourdan wrote: >> >> yeah (that?s why i signed with a smiley) but whats not robust on this >> solution? > > In theory, nothing. But sometimes, when you finished your patch, and > you think about optimizing it, you start removing any non useful > object. You may remove the number box, because it doesn't look like > it's doing anything. That's why I usually prefer not to customize the > behavior of those object, by using a clip for example instead. Anyway, > this is a personal patching approach, and no a how you have to do it. yes you are right of course. i should have added that i always change the color of edited numberboxes to red to avoid exactly this... p > > ej > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > -- http://pure.test.at http://www.heartchamberorchestra.org From peimankhosravi at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 07:49:31 2007 From: peimankhosravi at gmail.com (peiman khosravi) Date: Mon Oct 1 07:50:09 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Off topic, advice on Audio interface please :-) Message-ID: <0981A056-9891-4268-AEAD-A81284F0B345@gmail.com> Hello, I was wondering if anyone here has had any experiences or knows about the Presonus Firebox Interface: http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAction.do? dispatch=showProduct&SKU=PSON-FIREBOX&context=WEB I have finally managed to sell my mbox 2 for a reasonable price and am looking for a new device to use with dp and max/msp and other DSP software (not protools!). Any adivce or ideas are much appreciated. Many Thanks Peiman From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Oct 1 08:16:07 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Oct 1 08:16:09 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Off topic, advice on Audio interface please :-) In-Reply-To: <0981A056-9891-4268-AEAD-A81284F0B345@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c824.47010126@www.cycling74.com> Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 15:49 ---------------------------------------------------- > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone here has had any experiences or knows about > the Presonus Firebox Interface: > > http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAction.do? > dispatch=showProduct&SKU=PSON-FIREBOX&context=WEB > > I have finally managed to sell my mbox 2 for a reasonable price and > am looking for a new device to use with dp and max/msp and other DSP > software (not protools!). Haha, I hear some frustrations there.. Don't know about Presonus Firebox but M-Audio devices work fine (and also work with protools M-powered in case you ever need to go back) > > Any adivce or ideas are much appreciated. > > Many Thanks > Peiman > ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From wugmump at speakeasy.org Mon Oct 1 08:19:01 2007 From: wugmump at speakeasy.org (joshua goldberg) Date: Mon Oct 1 08:19:08 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <4700AA5B.2010201@gmail.com> References: <1c801.47002d66@www.cycling74.com> <96717B32-E7E1-48BF-9C6B-561313E5727A@mac.com> <4700AA5B.2010201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5198BDE5-3000-48BC-9F2B-71DFA655F8C5@speakeasy.org> just because the immediate uses of an interface seem limited, it's not the case that widespread interest in that interface is 'insulting' or 'fucking stupid.' remember that there have been a lot of incidences of new technology or schools of thought in music whose ramifications were not immediately apparent. they threw tomatoes at 'rite of spring'. jazz was not recognized as a legitimate art form by lincoln center until the 70s. dylan, elvis and the beatles were mocked. gameboy music was as well, and that's continuing as a genre. lo-fi rock and beats as well. serialism. laptop musicianship in general. turntablism would be worthy of the insults hurled at it if it were the only control and people were touting it as such. but it's another widget to add to the modern musician's arsenal. do not mock instruments because their usage seems simplistic. orchestral music still includes scores for triangles. the jew's harp has been used to great effect. i maintain that arrogant statement such as yours are far more damaging - and risible after the fact! - than the efforts of those people who keep an eye out for new expressive interfaces. On Oct 1, 2007, at 4:05 AM, f.e wrote: > So don't begin. > > Don't play your cold virgins. Turntablism was insulting, mostly. > Yeah, pleasant time with scratch, beautiful moments, and so what ? > > f.e > > f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music > >>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com > >>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people| > > > vade a ?crit : >> Yeah, I dont even know where to begin with that one. Ever seen >> 'Scratch' ? >> On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Robert Ramirez wrote: >>> >>>> Reminds me of this stupid turntablism we had to bear for last 20 >>>> years. Only a few guys like Kid Koala were able to use this shit >>>> as an instrument, and in only 25 minutes performances. After >>>> that, he's sweating like the Red Hot Chili Peppers... >>> >>> very insulting and ignorant comment, by the way. >>> but whatever. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> maxmsp mailing list >>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >> *v a d e //* >> *www.vade.info* >> *abstrakt.vade.info* >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From xlight63 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 08:30:01 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Mon Oct 1 08:30:03 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c827.47010467@www.cycling74.com> Quote: mihalic.imeb wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 04:46 ---------------------------------------------------- > Hi, > > we use Re-Wire for connection Max-PT in our studios. no pb for > opening and for connecting audio, but only pb is that max is used > like "synthtiser", it's mean you can send an audio signal from Max to > PT but not from PT to Max....... you have open the software in > specific order: > 1 - start PT > 2 - start Max/MSP > 3 - DSP on (max/MSP) > 4 - select driver ad-rewire > 5- select your virtual outputs form max/MSP > 6- new track PT > 7- select RTAS plugin (Digidesign or Instrument menu) Max (mono) > 8- click on plug and select input voice from Max > > that's all > > All other software is conected with JackAudio - excelent and the bset > one I think > > You can't use jack or Soundflower to connect Max with PT, because.... > it's impossible...... There are not inputs from other software to PT > and PT doesn't accept use the PT Hardware by another software when PT > is running..... only solution is ReWire. without audio retourn to Max > > > maybe it's good idea to put the audio inputs to Max from ReWire? > > > Le 1 oct. 07 ? 00:49, UCDMSRA a ?crit : > > > > > Hi, > > > > I tried to use Sunflower so that I can rout my sound (8 channels) > > from Max to ProTools HD. However, I don't know how to set Sunflower > > input in ProTools HD. It seems that ProTools HD only recognized > > 192. Can anybody give me a hint? > > > > thank you so much > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------- > > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > > mail. > > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > > > > > > > Alexander Mihalic > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Computer Music Department Manager > > IMEB > Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France > > mihalic.imeb@orange.fr > http://www.imeb.org > > tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. > fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- Hi, I follow your step but still can not see anything in the RTAS plug-in. I want to make sure one thing, is that "select your virtual outputs form max/MSP" means I select I/O mapping in DSP status of Max? Sorry but I don't really understand what is you said "virtual outputs". I spent whole night tried to get Max/MSP singal into PT but still not working. I install re-wire 1.7, my DSP status is set to sampling Rate 44100, I/O Vector 1024, Signal Vector 256, I/O mapping rewire 1~8, audio driver setup is just core audio. I follow your step and do it again but still can not see anything in PT AudioTrack/Insert/RTAS, it is really weird that I can see my other software such as Reason, Maledyn......but just can not see Max. Did I miss any thing or did I do something wrong? thanks, CK From peimankhosravi at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 08:34:00 2007 From: peimankhosravi at gmail.com (peiman khosravi) Date: Mon Oct 1 08:34:23 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Off topic, advice on Audio interface please :-) In-Reply-To: <1c824.47010126@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c824.47010126@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Frustrations indeed! Thanks for your reply Mattijs. I will look at M-audio now. Best Peiman On 1 Oct 2007, at 15:16, Mattijs Kneppers wrote: > > Quote: peimankhosravi@gmail.com wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 15:49 > ---------------------------------------------------- >> Hello, >> >> I was wondering if anyone here has had any experiences or knows about >> the Presonus Firebox Interface: >> >> http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAction.do? >> dispatch=showProduct&SKU=PSON-FIREBOX&context=WEB >> >> I have finally managed to sell my mbox 2 for a reasonable price and >> am looking for a new device to use with dp and max/msp and other DSP >> software (not protools!). > > Haha, I hear some frustrations there.. > > Don't know about Presonus Firebox but M-Audio devices work fine > (and also work with protools M-powered in case you ever need to go > back) > >> >> Any adivce or ideas are much appreciated. >> >> Many Thanks >> Peiman >> > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl > Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From xlight63 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 09:00:34 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:00:40 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c82a.47010b91@www.cycling74.com> Quote: mihalic.imeb wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 04:46 ---------------------------------------------------- > Hi, > > we use Re-Wire for connection Max-PT in our studios. no pb for > opening and for connecting audio, but only pb is that max is used > like "synthtiser", it's mean you can send an audio signal from Max to > PT but not from PT to Max....... you have open the software in > specific order: > 1 - start PT > 2 - start Max/MSP > 3 - DSP on (max/MSP) > 4 - select driver ad-rewire > 5- select your virtual outputs form max/MSP > 6- new track PT > 7- select RTAS plugin (Digidesign or Instrument menu) Max (mono) > 8- click on plug and select input voice from Max > > that's all > > All other software is conected with JackAudio - excelent and the bset > one I think > > You can't use jack or Soundflower to connect Max with PT, because.... > it's impossible...... There are not inputs from other software to PT > and PT doesn't accept use the PT Hardware by another software when PT > is running..... only solution is ReWire. without audio retourn to Max > > > maybe it's good idea to put the audio inputs to Max from ReWire? > > > Le 1 oct. 07 ? 00:49, UCDMSRA a ?crit : > > > > > Hi, > > > > I tried to use Sunflower so that I can rout my sound (8 channels) > > from Max to ProTools HD. However, I don't know how to set Sunflower > > input in ProTools HD. It seems that ProTools HD only recognized > > 192. Can anybody give me a hint? > > > > thank you so much > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------- > > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > > mail. > > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > > > > > > > Alexander Mihalic > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Computer Music Department Manager > > IMEB > Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France > > mihalic.imeb@orange.fr > http://www.imeb.org > > tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. > fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- Hi, In case I misunderstood some parts of your direction. I wrote down what I did just now. Would you please let me know if I did something wrong or I misunderstood your words? Thanks. I am so tired and I just wanna go home....... 1. Open PT, at the same time also open a new session, set audio file .aiff, 41000, 24bit 2. Open Max, because last time when I close Max, it has already been set to ad_wire. So here I just switch back to core audio and turn the audio on 3. Switch back to ad_rewire again 4. When I switch back to ad_rewire, I/O map switch to rewire1~16 automatically, Max output channel 1&2 also become ReWire Out 1&2. 5. I don't know if I need to open a max file to make sure audio is go through, but here I didn't open any max file. 6. go back to PT, from "insert" section, select RTAS plug-ins/instruments/ 7. Nothing happened........:( Please let me know if there is anyting wrong. Thanks, I just wanna go home........ best, CK From mopppish at yahoo.com Mon Oct 1 09:20:14 2007 From: mopppish at yahoo.com (Eric Sheffield) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:20:19 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Max 5: What It Is (and Isn't) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c82b.4701102d@www.cycling74.com> Wow. This sounds great. I'm pretty new to Max (just started earlier this year), so having not "grown up" with the program, I was always a little baffled as to why the overall interface had not been updated. I feel the same way about Pro Tools. Anyway, I'm a student, and my 9 month license expires in December. I would certainly like to and can probably afford to wait until 5 is released to buy the full license. Does anyone have any idea as to what Cycling's free upgrade window for recent buyers has been in the past? From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Mon Oct 1 09:28:01 2007 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:28:06 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1c827.47010467@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c827.47010467@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <3582AE49-F8CE-4F37-8C2F-960CFD1A2BFC@orange.fr> hmmm, strange... before write you I made this procedure in the studio to be sure! but your audio dirver into the DSP setup has to have choice between: Driver: None, CoreAudio "Built-in Output", NonRealTime, ad_rewire and your Dididesign audio driver. if you don't have "ad_rewire" you can't have audio rewire outputs from Max..... and nothing into PT... try to reinstil Max maybe? and what I made everytime after the instals -> DiskUtilities/The Repair Disk Permissions virtuals outputs are the aoutputs in "I/O Mappings" you map 16 ReWire outputs into 512 virtuals outputs you have in Max hope it help you.... Le 1 oct. 07 ? 16:30, UCDMSRA a ?crit : > ---------------------------------------------------- > Hi, > > I follow your step but still can not see anything in the RTAS plug- > in. I want to make sure one thing, is that "select your virtual > outputs form max/MSP" means I select I/O mapping in DSP status of > Max? Sorry but I don't really understand what is you said "virtual > outputs". > > I spent whole night tried to get Max/MSP singal into PT but still > not working. I install re-wire 1.7, my DSP status is set to > sampling Rate 44100, I/O Vector 1024, Signal Vector 256, I/O > mapping rewire 1~8, audio driver setup is just core audio. > > I follow your step and do it again but still can not see anything > in PT AudioTrack/Insert/RTAS, it is really weird that I can see my > other software such as Reason, Maledyn......but just can not see Max. > > Did I miss any thing or did I do something wrong? > > thanks, > > CK > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > > Quote: mihalic.imeb wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 04:46 > ---------------------------------------------------- >> Hi, >> >> we use Re-Wire for connection Max-PT in our studios. no pb for >> opening and for connecting audio, but only pb is that max is used >> like "synthtiser", it's mean you can send an audio signal from Max to >> PT but not from PT to Max....... you have open the software in >> specific order: >> 1 - start PT >> 2 - start Max/MSP >> 3 - DSP on (max/MSP) >> 4 - select driver ad-rewire >> 5- select your virtual outputs form max/MSP >> 6- new track PT >> 7- select RTAS plugin (Digidesign or Instrument menu) Max (mono) >> 8- click on plug and select input voice from Max >> >> that's all >> >> All other software is conected with JackAudio - excelent and the bset >> one I think >> >> You can't use jack or Soundflower to connect Max with PT, because.... >> it's impossible...... There are not inputs from other software to PT >> and PT doesn't accept use the PT Hardware by another software when PT >> is running..... only solution is ReWire. without audio retourn to Max >> >> >> maybe it's good idea to put the audio inputs to Max from ReWire? >> >> >> Le 1 oct. 07 ? 00:49, UCDMSRA a ?crit : >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I tried to use Sunflower so that I can rout my sound (8 channels) >>> from Max to ProTools HD. However, I don't know how to set Sunflower >>> input in ProTools HD. It seems that ProTools HD only recognized >>> 192. Can anybody give me a hint? >>> >>> thank you so much >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From xlight63 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 09:30:39 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:30:43 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c82d.4701129e@www.cycling74.com> Hi, I found one thing. When I first turn audio on and then switch to ad_rewire (just as what you told me to do), Max window show a error message: "error: ad_rewire: error starting audio. Is ReWire mixer running?" what is ReWire Mixer? I only open PT and Max, and this time I only open a new patch, make "cycle~ 440" sound and connect to dac~. Would you please be able to tell me what's going on? thank you so much, CK From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Mon Oct 1 09:35:02 2007 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:35:17 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1c82a.47010b91@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c82a.47010b91@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: > In case I misunderstood some parts of your direction. I wrote down > what I did just now. Would you please let me know if I did > something wrong or I misunderstood your words? Thanks. I am so > tired and I just wanna go home....... > > 1. Open PT, at the same time also open a new session, set audio > file .aiff, 41000, 24bit ok > 2. Open Max, because last time when I close Max, it has already > been set to ad_wire. So here I just switch back to core audio and > turn the audio on > 3. Switch back to ad_rewire again > 4. When I switch back to ad_rewire, I/O map switch to rewire1~16 > automatically, Max output channel 1&2 also become ReWire Out 1&2. ok, Max take a preferences and "know" the lst setup - you have now 16 ReWire channels > 5. I don't know if I need to open a max file to make sure audio is > go through, but here I didn't open any max file. ok, not necesssary to open any file, but later you will need a sound from amx to test outputs (you can use audiotetser from extra menu) > 6. go back to PT, from "insert" section, select RTAS plug-ins/ > instruments/ ok, RTAS/Instruments/Max (Mono) or RTAS/Digidesign/Max (Mono) > 7. Nothing happened........:( ??????????? strange Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From doktorp at mac.com Mon Oct 1 09:38:48 2007 From: doktorp at mac.com (vade) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:39:42 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <4700AA5B.2010201@gmail.com> References: <1c801.47002d66@www.cycling74.com> <96717B32-E7E1-48BF-9C6B-561313E5727A@mac.com> <4700AA5B.2010201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <34846D0C-2724-4CF2-9FE8-43F62913B750@mac.com> So What? Because it flies in the face of your previous statement? Because quite more than only a few guys were able to use that 'shit' as an instrument, and not only in 25 performances... My god man, get a grip. Sounds like you have a grudge to bear? Someone hit your mother with a record player as a youth? I wont bother suggesting artists, because its pretty obvious you arent open minded about this, and it simply boils down to opinion. Anyway, just be aware that quite a few disagree with you. Cold Virgins? Im not familiar with that one. On Oct 1, 2007, at 4:05 AM, f.e wrote: > So don't begin. > > Don't play your cold virgins. Turntablism was insulting, mostly. > Yeah, pleasant time with scratch, beautiful moments, and so what ? > > f.e > > f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music > >>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com > >>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people| > > > vade a ?crit : >> Yeah, I dont even know where to begin with that one. Ever seen >> 'Scratch' ? >> On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Robert Ramirez wrote: >>> >>>> Reminds me of this stupid turntablism we had to bear for last 20 >>>> years. Only a few guys like Kid Koala were able to use this shit >>>> as an instrument, and in only 25 minutes performances. After >>>> that, he's sweating like the Red Hot Chili Peppers... >>> >>> very insulting and ignorant comment, by the way. >>> but whatever. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> maxmsp mailing list >>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >> *v a d e //* >> *www.vade.info* >> *abstrakt.vade.info* >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp v a d e // www.vade.info abstrakt.vade.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20071001/7c94a3ee/attachment.htm From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 09:48:08 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:48:12 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <5198BDE5-3000-48BC-9F2B-71DFA655F8C5@speakeasy.org> Message-ID: <1c832.470116b8@www.cycling74.com> whats scratch? and cold virgins? at any rate this is a pointless argument, theres one naysayer and tons of people who love what Masayuki is doing so why bother. The comments show ignorance and disrespect to someone who is providing something really cool for the community which bothers me. Im a little curious, what music do you like f.e? -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From xlight63 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 09:54:57 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Mon Oct 1 09:55:01 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c834.47011850@www.cycling74.com> Quote: mihalic.imeb wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 09:35 ---------------------------------------------------- > > In case I misunderstood some parts of your direction. I wrote down > > what I did just now. Would you please let me know if I did > > something wrong or I misunderstood your words? Thanks. I am so > > tired and I just wanna go home....... > > > > 1. Open PT, at the same time also open a new session, set audio > > file .aiff, 41000, 24bit > > ok > > > 2. Open Max, because last time when I close Max, it has already > > been set to ad_wire. So here I just switch back to core audio and > > turn the audio on > > 3. Switch back to ad_rewire again > > 4. When I switch back to ad_rewire, I/O map switch to rewire1~16 > > automatically, Max output channel 1&2 also become ReWire Out 1&2. > > ok, Max take a preferences and "know" the lst setup - you have now 16 > ReWire channels > > > 5. I don't know if I need to open a max file to make sure audio is > > go through, but here I didn't open any max file. > > ok, not necesssary to open any file, but later you will need a sound > from amx to test outputs (you can use audiotetser from extra menu) > > > 6. go back to PT, from "insert" section, select RTAS plug-ins/ > > instruments/ > > ok, > > RTAS/Instruments/Max (Mono) or > RTAS/Digidesign/Max (Mono) > > > 7. Nothing happened........:( > > ??????????? strange > > > > Alexander Mihalic > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Computer Music Department Manager > > IMEB > Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France > > mihalic.imeb@orange.fr > http://www.imeb.org > > tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. > fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- I think the strange thing is, when I switch to ad_wire, audio will turn off automatically and a error message just keeping show in Max window. "error: ad_rewire: error starting audio. Is ReWire mixer running?" Of course ReWire mixer is supposed to running right? So, I can not turn the audio on because everything when I tried to turn audio on it will switch back to off automatically and show the error message again. Would you or anybody please tell me if you have any idea what makes this error happened? thanks From personalcomputermusic at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 10:48:29 2007 From: personalcomputermusic at gmail.com (f.e) Date: Mon Oct 1 10:48:34 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <34846D0C-2724-4CF2-9FE8-43F62913B750@mac.com> References: <1c801.47002d66@www.cycling74.com> <96717B32-E7E1-48BF-9C6B-561313E5727A@mac.com> <4700AA5B.2010201@gmail.com> <34846D0C-2724-4CF2-9FE8-43F62913B750@mac.com> Message-ID: <470124DD.3010603@gmail.com> Cool, mates. Don't take it personnally. It was no judgement. I just personnaly, actually, don't like much turntables in general. I'm glad you people like it and i honestly liked a lot of things made with (but i swear i don't listen to my Terre Thaemlitz records anymore). And i've done things with too. Nevertheless, yes, we certainly had to bear turntables everywhere this last decade. As we are tortured by rnb in drugstores, and as we, french people, will have to stay cool while our president ridiculously do his jogging with a nypd shirt for the next 5 years. "Cold Virgin" was a horrible homemade translation of "vierge ?ffarouch?e". I'm sure i've heard the correct expression last night in an old Wild Palms episode but i didn't remember. I meant i'm really pissed off we can't say "stupid turntablism" without beeing called names these days. And as we're fed with djs to death, i could also have said : "kill the djs". Because i care less of Hawtin when he plays records than when he plays with a 909 and a bunch of fx, even if he's still very good at playing records. But this was not the point. I was mostly discussing about innovative interfaces in general, and the fact that, while offering cool new features, i'm disapointed they often stay a gadget. We can now stop this troll of mine. f.e f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music >>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com >>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people| vade a ?crit : > So What? Because it flies in the face of your previous statement? > Because quite more than only a few guys were able to use that 'shit' as > an instrument, and not only in 25 performances... My god man, get a > grip. Sounds like you have a grudge to bear? Someone hit your mother > with a record player as a youth? > > I wont bother suggesting artists, because its pretty obvious you arent > open minded about this, and it simply boils down to opinion. Anyway, > just be aware that quite a few disagree with you. > > Cold Virgins? Im not familiar with that one. > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 4:05 AM, f.e wrote: > >> So don't begin. >> >> Don't play your cold virgins. Turntablism was insulting, mostly. Yeah, >> pleasant time with scratch, beautiful moments, and so what ? >> >> f.e >> >> f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music >> >>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com >> >>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people| >> >> >> vade a ?crit : >>> Yeah, I dont even know where to begin with that one. Ever seen >>> 'Scratch' ? >>> On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Robert Ramirez wrote: >>>> >>>>> Reminds me of this stupid turntablism we had to bear for last 20 >>>>> years. Only a few guys like Kid Koala were able to use this shit as >>>>> an instrument, and in only 25 minutes performances. After that, >>>>> he's sweating like the Red Hot Chili Peppers... >>>> >>>> very insulting and ignorant comment, by the way. >>>> but whatever. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> maxmsp mailing list >>>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >>> *v a d e //* >>> *www.vade.info * >>> *abstrakt.vade.info* >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> maxmsp mailing list >>> maxmsp@cycling74.com >>> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > *v a d e //* > > *www.vade.info* > *abstrakt.vade.info* > > > From Mikhail.Malt at ircam.fr Mon Oct 1 10:58:07 2007 From: Mikhail.Malt at ircam.fr (Mikhail Malt) Date: Mon Oct 1 10:58:09 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] =?windows-1252?q?cycle=7E=3A_a_=93cosines=94_table_inst?= =?windows-1252?q?ead_a_sinus_one_=3F_?= In-Reply-To: <1c3d3.46f0c954@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c3d3.46f0c954@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Hi all Why, in cycle~ we have a ?cosines? table instead a sinus one ? It is something related with synchronization (in cosine the ?1? is always the begin of the period, and in the sinus wave the ?0? appears twice in a cycle)? thanks in advace Mikhail From rob at robtherich.org Mon Oct 1 11:03:35 2007 From: rob at robtherich.org (Robert Ramirez) Date: Mon Oct 1 11:03:39 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <470124DD.3010603@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c83a.47012867@www.cycling74.com> i totally respect you're opinion when presented as such. however implying that turntables are a silly fad shows a kind of conservatism that doesn't really have a place on the max/msp forum, imho. of course i could be wrong, and turntables will quickly go the way of laptops, synthesizers, electric guitars, the piano, and all other silly fads people tried to pass of as instruments of expression. and back to the topic, can you really not see the utility of a pocket-sized, fully customizable, wireless, multi(hopefully)-touch screen interface? very few active members of this community are chasing fads, one would think. and really back on topic, does anyone know if this awesome external will work on the ipod touch? From dmalone at roosevelt.edu Mon Oct 1 11:24:00 2007 From: dmalone at roosevelt.edu (don malone) Date: Mon Oct 1 11:24:08 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Off topic, advice on Audio interface please :-) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c83c.47012d30@www.cycling74.com> i have been using the firebox for a year with MaxMSPJitter and have had no problems -- it takes all of us LoneMonad http://faculty.roosevelt.edu/malone/default.htm From n_q at gmx.net Mon Oct 1 11:24:44 2007 From: n_q at gmx.net (Nils Quak) Date: Mon Oct 1 11:24:49 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: bashfest~ chopper~ could you try In-Reply-To: <1c80e.4700a26f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c83d.47012d5c@www.cycling74.com> cool. thanks eric. that fixed it. wow. From personalcomputermusic at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 11:27:09 2007 From: personalcomputermusic at gmail.com (f.e) Date: Mon Oct 1 11:27:13 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <1c83a.47012867@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c83a.47012867@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47012DED.1080803@gmail.com> Robert Ramirez a ?crit : > i totally respect you're opinion when presented as such. Yeah, sorry for the yesterday's bad mood... > however implying that turntables are a silly fad shows a kind of conservatism that doesn't really have a place on the max/msp forum, imho. of course i could be wrong, and turntables will quickly go the way of laptops, synthesizers, electric guitars, the piano, and all other silly fads people tried to pass of as instruments of expression. I think the contrary : turntables are much better with maxmsp behind .-) > > and back to the topic, can you really not see the utility of a pocket-sized, fully customizable, wireless, multi(hopefully)-touch screen interface? Well, i'm very fond of all these new stuff too. It's terribly exciting. I personnaly wrote a few lines of code to use the DS as a controller and it's very funny. But after a while, i always feel disapointed. There's the "new thing"'s appeal, but at the end, it doesn't supply much improvment to what we already got to play with. Nevertheless, what mr akamatsu does is terrific, for sure. > > very few active members of this community are chasing fads, one would think. What is a fad ? A fader ? > > and really back on topic, does anyone know if this awesome external will work on the ipod touch? > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu Mon Oct 1 11:32:44 2007 From: mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu (mzed) Date: Mon Oct 1 11:32:48 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: How to make surround sound controller in Max/MSP In-Reply-To: <1c7a2.46fed797@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c83e.47012f3c@www.cycling74.com> > Hi, > > Actually, I have one thing to ask. How come everytime I open your patch and there is always a VBAP help file jump out and ask me to test my speaker first. I have no clue. Which patch? Perhaps you have IRCAM's VBAP from Spat, and not VIlle Pulkki's from here: http://acoustics.hut.fi/~ville/software/MAX_MSP/ Nothing in the panhandler module generates that message, so it must be something else. mz -- || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ || http://www.mikezed.com/ From doktorp at mac.com Mon Oct 1 11:41:22 2007 From: doktorp at mac.com (vade) Date: Mon Oct 1 11:42:06 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <1c83a.47012867@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c83a.47012867@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: As far as I know, the iPod touch has not been jailbroken, which means no external system file system access, which means no custom apps, which means I am not getting one! Im glad I held off :) On Oct 1, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Robert Ramirez wrote: > > i totally respect you're opinion when presented as such. > however implying that turntables are a silly fad shows a kind of > conservatism that doesn't really have a place on the max/msp > forum, imho. of course i could be wrong, and turntables will > quickly go the way of laptops, synthesizers, electric guitars, the > piano, and all other silly fads people tried to pass of as > instruments of expression. > > and back to the topic, can you really not see the utility of a > pocket-sized, fully customizable, wireless, multi(hopefully)-touch > screen interface? > > very few active members of this community are chasing fads, one > would think. > > and really back on topic, does anyone know if this awesome external > will work on the ipod touch? > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp v a d e // www.vade.info abstrakt.vade.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From yair99 at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 12:03:42 2007 From: yair99 at gmail.com (yair reshef) Date: Mon Oct 1 12:03:54 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <1c83a.47012867@www.cycling74.com> References: <470124DD.3010603@gmail.com> <1c83a.47012867@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1b1605c20710011103o4b82134flb9c6fe8b3211d932@mail.gmail.com> i dont think f.r doesn't have a problem with using gadgets as inputs device. he mentioned he uses the DS for similar purposes. and aside from his lack of enthusiasm for turntabl(ism) his much valid point is unprofessional use of "tings". i see it as something i struggle with myself, slowing down and focusing your efforts, separating the essence from the fluff. my day job is supplying software trinkets for promotion purposes. this is what i took from it, there are other readings. "peace in the middle east" On 10/1/07, Robert Ramirez wrote: > > > i totally respect you're opinion when presented as such. > however implying that turntables are a silly fad shows a kind of > conservatism that doesn't really have a place on the max/msp forum, imho. > of course i could be wrong, and turntables will quickly go the way of > laptops, synthesizers, electric guitars, the piano, and all other silly fads > people tried to pass of as instruments of expression. > > and back to the topic, can you really not see the utility of a > pocket-sized, fully customizable, wireless, multi(hopefully)-touch screen > interface? > > very few active members of this community are chasing fads, one would > think. > > and really back on topic, does anyone know if this awesome external will > work on the ipod touch? > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20071001/29377cb3/attachment.htm From wesley.hoke at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 12:06:11 2007 From: wesley.hoke at gmail.com (Wesley Smith) Date: Mon Oct 1 12:06:18 2007 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[maxmsp]_cycle~:_a_=93cosine?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?s=94_table_instead_a_sinus_one_=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: <1c3d3.46f0c954@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1079b050710011106k3f0bcfb2y30feba92d218a895@mail.gmail.com> cycle~ has a default table. You can change it if you want. See the msp docs for further info. wes On 10/1/07, Mikhail Malt wrote: > Hi all > > > Why, in cycle~ we have a "cosines" table instead a sinus one ? > It is something related with synchronization (in cosine the "1" is > always the begin of the period, and in the sinus wave the "0" appears > twice in a cycle)? > > thanks in advace > > Mikhail > > > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From xlight63 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 12:23:11 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Mon Oct 1 12:23:17 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c841.47013b0e@www.cycling74.com> Hi, Well, the most strange thing probably happened here...... I though it was because of the computer I am using right now. So I tried three different ProTools HD system in 3 different computers. The same error. what excactly is ReWire Mixer? All the error message are the same, "Is ReWire Mixer running?" Is there anybody has the same problem? I tried to search this forum and use any information I can get from the search result, but non of the solution work. Really appreciate any help. thanks From xlight63 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 12:30:54 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Mon Oct 1 12:30:59 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Max/MSP with new Dual Core Mac Pro Message-ID: <1c842.47013cda@www.cycling74.com> Hi, Just try to get any advice from here. I have a new Mac Pro Dual Core 2.66. I made patch which has already used a lot of CPU utilities (around 60%~70%).......but I still need to record it back by "sfrecord~". I know I am not gonna make it because I use 8 channels. Once I start recording, CPU utilities is going to 100% immediatly. So I just think if there is any possible to manage the CPU since my computer is dual core. I mean, use playback in one CPU and use record by another. Is is possible work? anyone? thanks From rob at robtherich.org Mon Oct 1 12:57:18 2007 From: rob at robtherich.org (Robert Ramirez) Date: Mon Oct 1 12:57:24 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2 In-Reply-To: <47012DED.1080803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c84c.4701430d@www.cycling74.com> > Nevertheless, what mr akamatsu does is terrific, for sure. > > > > > very few active members of this community are chasing fads, one would think. > > What is a fad ? A fader ? a trend with a short lifespan. my point is that i don't think people are excited about this device because it's trendy, but because we can see the possibility it offers. but again, i could be wrong. anyways, thanks for clarifying your point. and i can say i whole-heartedly agree that misuse (whatever that means) of tools is never a fun thing to witness. but doesn't every form of technology that we use as a means of expression have the possibility to be misused? it's good to be in a forum where people can heatedly disagree but still carry on an intelligent discussion. > As far as I know, the iPod touch has not been jailbroken, which means > no external system file system access, which means no custom apps, > which means I am not getting one! hopefully the liberation will come eventually. where's that 15 year old kid? they didn't put him in jail too did they? From jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org Mon Oct 1 13:25:52 2007 From: jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org (Jean-Fran=?ISO-8859-1?B?5w==?=ois Charles) Date: Mon Oct 1 13:23:05 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Max/MSP with new Dual Core Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <1c842.47013cda@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Try launching Max Application for the big patch, and a "compiled" Max application that only "sfrecords". Communicate between the two maybe with Soundflower. Jean-Fran?ois. At 10/1/07 2:30 PM, you wrote?: > > Hi, > > Just try to get any advice from here. I have a new Mac Pro Dual Core 2.66. I > made patch which has already used a lot of CPU utilities (around > 60%~70%).......but I still need to record it back by "sfrecord~". I know I am > not gonna make it because I use 8 channels. Once I start recording, CPU > utilities is going to 100% immediatly. > > So I just think if there is any possible to manage the CPU since my computer > is dual core. I mean, use playback in one CPU and use record by another. Is is > possible work? anyone? > > thanks > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From laut_leise at gmx.net Mon Oct 1 13:33:27 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Mon Oct 1 13:33:38 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Max/MSP with new Dual Core Mac Pro In-Reply-To: <1c842.47013cda@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c853.47014b87@www.cycling74.com> Quote: CKNY wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 12:30 ---------------------------------------------------- > Hi, > > Just try to get any advice from here. I have a new Mac Pro Dual Core 2.66. I made patch which has already used a lot of CPU utilities (around 60%~70%).......but I still need to record it back by "sfrecord~". I know I am not gonna make it because I use 8 channels. Once I start recording, CPU utilities is going to 100% immediatly. > i assume that you set the vectorsize to 2 instead of 32 or 64 otherwise you wouldnt see that. From andrewb at cycling74.com Mon Oct 1 14:24:59 2007 From: andrewb at cycling74.com (Andrew Benson) Date: Mon Oct 1 14:25:04 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: SOS, Help.......rewire problem with ProTools HD 7.3 In-Reply-To: <1c7f4.47001120@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c855.4701579a@www.cycling74.com> Hello, First, you will need to make sure that you have the latest version of ReWire installed. Next, you will need to follow these steps: 1. Turn off both MaxMSP and Pro Tools (along with any other Rewire apps that might be open) 2. Open up MaxMSP and open the DSP Status window. 3. Set the audio driver to ad_rewire. Do not turn on audio 4. Start up Pro Tools. Create a new project with an Audio Track. 5. From the track's RTAS insert menu, select Instrument->MaxMSP 6. When the Rewire window pops up, select MaxMSP 1 as the input. 7. Go back into MaxMSP and open the Audiotester patch in extras. 8. Click the start message. Do you get any errors? If not, try sending a test tone to the outputs. Let us know how that works for you. Best, Andrew B. From Mikhail.Malt at ircam.fr Mon Oct 1 14:49:05 2007 From: Mikhail.Malt at ircam.fr (Mikhail.Malt@ircam.fr) Date: Mon Oct 1 14:49:10 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] cycle~: a =?iso-8859-1?Q?=93cosines=94_table_instead_a_sinus_one_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <1079b050710011106k3f0bcfb2y30feba92d218a895@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3d3.46f0c954@www.cycling74.com> <1079b050710011106k3f0bcfb2y30feba92d218a895@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1210.82.228.218.101.1191271745.squirrel@formulaires.ircam.fr> > cycle~ has a default table. You can change it if you want. See the > msp docs for further info. > wes > This I know, the question is "why a cosines instead a sine wave table"??? In the doc we can't find the "why is a cosine". In fact it is said thatis a sine table.. what seems that is wrong..(try freq = 0, and changing the phase..) @+ MM From lists at asquare.org Mon Oct 1 15:12:50 2007 From: lists at asquare.org (Garrett Lynch) Date: Mon Oct 1 15:12:51 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Collective or application? In-Reply-To: <46F8C0F2.8060403@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1c858.470162d1@www.cycling74.com> Hi done some tests now with a machine that only has max/msp runtime installed using collectives. all the jitter components were missing in the collectives - when i copied these components into the same folder as the collectives and relaunched them, no messages in the max window asking for them however they were still missing. is the current folder (for the collectives) automatically searched, not sure but I will do a test setting a search path tomorrow. a+ gar From toni.bird at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 15:24:17 2007 From: toni.bird at gmail.com (Antonio Passaro) Date: Mon Oct 1 15:24:21 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Window size Fixing Message-ID: <1c859.47016580@www.cycling74.com> Hi List, I know is possible to lock the path to open with the size I want e.g. 300x200 px, but I can figure this out. Can anyone help me please? Cheers, Tbird From cjlacke at ilstu.edu Mon Oct 1 15:58:54 2007 From: cjlacke at ilstu.edu (Seejay James) Date: Mon Oct 1 15:59:07 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Full-screen preview with DV ? Help!! Message-ID: <1c85b.47016d9c@www.cycling74.com> Sorry for the cross-posting with Jitter, but this is pretty urgent... ! Hi all, I need to be able to preview the live output of a DV / Firewire camera in real-time, in fullscreen, for a couple segments of a theatre show. I made a patch which does this but it's far too choppy to be useful -- Powerbook G4 is what we have to work with :( iMovie previews much more cleanly and smoothly, but I've searched in vain on how to make the preview window go full-screen. Seems you can only see your clips fullscreen, not the live capture. Anyone know a trick for iMovie, or another little app that will do this, or a way to optimize the preview in Jitter (don't think this will work, it was still choppy even at lowered resolution). Don't need to record or capture, edit, anything. Just preview. Wish we had a better computer, I'd much rather use Jitter for its flexibility, but this is what we've got. Thanks -- replies ASAP pleeeeease!!! --CJ From pvillez at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 16:09:02 2007 From: pvillez at gmail.com (Pere Josep Villez) Date: Mon Oct 1 16:09:10 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] list bad behaviour Message-ID: here is an interesting behaviour -write list in empty umenu inspector -select and copy list from inspector -paste in empty ubumenu inspector result: new umenu and NOT a populated ubumenu. Does anyone else get this result too? should it not populate the new ubumenu instead? P -- Pere Josep Villez Creative and Computational Sound Department of Creative Technologies University of Portsmouth 36-40 Middle Street Portsmouth PO5 Tel 00 44 23 9284 8484 www.perevillez.com www.centuryofnoise.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Mon Oct 1 16:19:06 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Mon Oct 1 16:19:05 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] groove~ distortion problem... In-Reply-To: <1c662.46fa8d52@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c662.46fa8d52@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4701725A.701@addcom.de> ol schrieb: > ...but the input is constantly changing (i hope this makes some kind > of sense..) anyway, everytime i use this patch the groove object that > plays the audio forwards will at fairly regular intervals output some > decimated, nasty sounding audio for about three metronome cycles... I bet its a bug in the way you patched it. groove~ itself should work fine. Try to strip down the patch to show just that behaviour. By doing that you might stumble over your bug, if not, post the stripped down version and somebody could look at it... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Mon Oct 1 16:19:13 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Mon Oct 1 16:19:13 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Save by preset object in RunTime, possible? In-Reply-To: <1c66a.46faa4a8@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c66a.46faa4a8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47017261.4060509@addcom.de> emmanuel schrieb: > however i have a syntax question for how to send read messages with > arguments to the preset object. i have open the preset.help patch > provided with MaxMSP 4.6 and when i send the following message to the > preset object: > > read ./max-help/presetExample > > the following two errors are returned: > > ? error: presetExample.pat: error 0 opening file ? error: ???: > preset read failed Yes, the example file seems to be corrupted, you could post it to support, so that cycling can correct it for the next distribution... In principle the synthax is correct. You don't need to specify the complete path if the file is within your search path by the way... You can also correct it yourself: if you rename the presetExample.pat into presetExample without extension, or change the read message to include the extension, it will load it, but won't find the objects its refering to. That means the preset file is old and not refering to an obviously newer preset.help file. You can create a new preset file by using the write message, and overwriting the existing presetExample file. Then reload and it should work... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Mon Oct 1 16:19:25 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Mon Oct 1 16:19:27 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: what effect does the phase parameter have in additive tutorial patch? In-Reply-To: <1c763.46fe2b4d@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c763.46fe2b4d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4701726D.8020908@addcom.de> petterdass schrieb: > Why did they include the phase parameter in the msp tutorial patch 7 > - additive synthesis? You learn more, if questions remain... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From pkmital at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 16:24:44 2007 From: pkmital at gmail.com (Parag K Mital) Date: Mon Oct 1 16:24:53 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] share edinburgh Message-ID: <470173AC.1020306@gmail.com> sorry to plug this... share (http://share.dj/) has come to edinburgh, scotland. please come out if you want to try out any maxmsp patches or jitter (i'll post in jitter list as well). thanks. http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~pkmital/share/ From peimankhosravi at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 17:41:35 2007 From: peimankhosravi at gmail.com (peiman khosravi) Date: Mon Oct 1 17:41:44 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Off topic, advice on Audio interface please :-) In-Reply-To: <1c83c.47012d30@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c83c.47012d30@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <84997AC9-AACF-4D44-BC83-D3121D0B8966@gmail.com> Thanks Don, That's what I was hoping to hear, as the price looks great! Thanks again Peiman On 1 Oct 2007, at 18:24, don malone wrote: > > i have been using the firebox for a year > with MaxMSPJitter > and have had no problems > -- > it takes all of us > LoneMonad > http://faculty.roosevelt.edu/malone/default.htm > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From info.llx at wanadoo.fr Mon Oct 1 17:54:54 2007 From: info.llx at wanadoo.fr (Eric L.) Date: Mon Oct 1 17:55:00 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] error 0 creating file In-Reply-To: References: <1c824.47010126@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <488057e8480b76805c24e7bfb4930388@wanadoo.fr> Hi list, Does anyone know anything about this message from Max: 'error 0 creating file'? 0? Thanks a lot, Eric L. From julien.rabin at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 18:03:24 2007 From: julien.rabin at gmail.com (jln) Date: Mon Oct 1 18:03:35 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Off topic, advice on Audio interface please :-) In-Reply-To: <84997AC9-AACF-4D44-BC83-D3121D0B8966@gmail.com> References: <1c83c.47012d30@www.cycling74.com> <84997AC9-AACF-4D44-BC83-D3121D0B8966@gmail.com> Message-ID: <86B0D19B-2CF3-4290-8127-48B62A4BDF66@gmail.com> Le 2 oct. 07 ? 01:41, peiman khosravi a ?crit : > Thanks Don, > > That's what I was hoping to hear, as the price looks great! > > Thanks again > Peima I second this. I use a Firepod and am really happy with it. As it is discontinuated now, maybe you can find some interesting second hand prices if you want more inputs/outputs. Best, Julien. From parapliers at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 20:25:13 2007 From: parapliers at gmail.com (dan) Date: Mon Oct 1 20:25:43 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] why must you torture me so! Message-ID: <1c871.4701ac07@www.cycling74.com> i just got a shiny new macbook pro and i really want to get cracking with a copy of max all of my own. unfortunately i just noticed the max 5 post on the front page. now i've got this predicament. it doesn't seem to make sense to make a purchase at this point in time, but "first quarter" 2008 seems so very far away. can anyone speculate on a more concrete release? or any details about upgrades and such? yarr. From queglay at yahoo.co.uk Mon Oct 1 21:07:22 2007 From: queglay at yahoo.co.uk (blairell) Date: Mon Oct 1 21:07:25 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Local send/receives? (using the #0 trick) In-Reply-To: <78B38A37-0CAD-409D-A5FC-D13B3DFAFF66@e--j.com> Message-ID: <1c872.4701b5e9@www.cycling74.com> i tried to use the #1 argument to reference a coll onject name, but this didn't work. the coll object interprets #1 as "#1", not as the value placed after the patch name From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Mon Oct 1 21:58:25 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Mon Oct 1 21:58:31 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: what effect does the phase parameter have in additive tutorial patch? In-Reply-To: <4701726D.8020908@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1c873.4701c1e1@www.cycling74.com> stefan your like Confucius today! we should all do haiku answers, that would make the max list even cooler -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From dlehrich at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 22:09:53 2007 From: dlehrich at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Mon Oct 1 22:09:58 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: why must you torture me so! In-Reply-To: <1c871.4701ac07@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c874.4701c490@www.cycling74.com> my 2 cents... David Zicarelli said himself that the basic ideas behind using Max will not change: "you still use the same basic collection of objects in the same way" http://cycling74.com/story/2007/9/28/105551/882 First quarter 2008 is still months away. If you're really gung-ho about getting cracking with Max then several months is enough time to get through the basics. Cycling has always been a very end-user friendly company and I'm sure the upgrade scheme will be reasonable. I'd say go for it now. You could always download the 30 day demo and check it out before dropping the money on the full purchase. /dan Quote: chartsandgraphs wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 20:25 ---------------------------------------------------- > i just got a shiny new macbook pro and i really want to get cracking with a copy of max all of my own. unfortunately i just noticed the max 5 post on the front page. now i've got this predicament. it doesn't seem to make sense to make a purchase at this point in time, but "first quarter" 2008 seems so very far away. can anyone speculate on a more concrete release? or any details about upgrades and such? > > yarr. > > ---------------------------------------------------- From xlight63 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 2 00:13:42 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Tue Oct 2 00:13:48 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: How to make surround sound controller in Max/MSP In-Reply-To: <1c83e.47012f3c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c875.4701e193@www.cycling74.com> Quote: mzed wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 11:32 ---------------------------------------------------- > > > Hi, > > > > Actually, I have one thing to ask. How come everytime I open your patch and there is always a VBAP help file jump out and ask me to test my speaker first. > > I have no clue. Which patch? > > Perhaps you have IRCAM's VBAP from Spat, and not VIlle Pulkki's from here: > > http://acoustics.hut.fi/~ville/software/MAX_MSP/ > > Nothing in the panhandler module generates that message, so it must be something else. > > mz > ---------------------------------------------------- Hi MZ, The link you gave me seems not working. I can not link to anything. Oh, by the way, thanks for the js file. I just want to make sure that where should I put this file? should I change the name of file? thanks From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Tue Oct 2 00:25:32 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Tue Oct 2 00:25:51 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Local send/receives? (using the #0 trick) In-Reply-To: <1c872.4701b5e9@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c872.4701b5e9@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 2 oct. 07, at 05:07, blairell wrote: > i tried to use the #1 argument to reference a coll onject name, but > this didn't work. the coll object interprets #1 as "#1", not as > the value placed after the patch name This would be great if you could provide a patch, otherwise we can only speculate. ej From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Tue Oct 2 01:54:15 2007 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Tue Oct 2 01:54:39 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: How to make surround sound controller in Max/MSP In-Reply-To: <1c875.4701e193@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c875.4701e193@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4AC8D882-AA01-4AF3-8D70-FDBA840DDAE6@orange.fr> he forgot to put www befor the adresse! here is the right link: http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/software/vbap/MAX_MSP/ Le 2 oct. 07 ? 08:13, UCDMSRA a ?crit : > > Quote: mzed wrote on Mon, 01 October 2007 11:32 > ---------------------------------------------------- >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Actually, I have one thing to ask. How come everytime I open your >>> patch and there is always a VBAP help file jump out and ask me to >>> test my speaker first. >> >> I have no clue. Which patch? >> >> Perhaps you have IRCAM's VBAP from Spat, and not VIlle Pulkki's >> from here: >> >> http://acoustics.hut.fi/~ville/software/MAX_MSP/ >> >> Nothing in the panhandler module generates that message, so it >> must be something else. >> >> mz >> > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Hi MZ, > > The link you gave me seems not working. I can not link to anything. > Oh, by the way, thanks for the js file. I just want to make sure > that where should I put this file? should I change the name of file? > > thanks > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Tue Oct 2 03:28:46 2007 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Tue Oct 2 03:30:40 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] objectname Message-ID: <8DF11E92-8817-4596-A871-1BEBED5E9FDD@orange.fr> hi, is it possible creating or to change the name of hte object but not with inspector but directly inside the patch? There are [thisobject] object but it's working only inside inspector patch. thanks Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From karrrlo at yahoo.com Tue Oct 2 03:55:12 2007 From: karrrlo at yahoo.com (karl-otto von oertzen) Date: Tue Oct 2 03:55:17 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: objectname In-Reply-To: <8DF11E92-8817-4596-A871-1BEBED5E9FDD@orange.fr> Message-ID: <1c87b.4702157f@www.cycling74.com> check the [thispatcher] object. in the helpfile you ll some scripting examples, look for the "script class..." script for rename objects. and "script new ..." for creating new objects. Quote: mihalic.imeb wrote on Tue, 02 October 2007 11:28 ---------------------------------------------------- > hi, > > > is it possible creating or to change the name of hte object but not > with inspector but directly inside the patch? > > There are [thisobject] object but it's working only inside inspector > patch. > > thanks > > > > > Alexander Mihalic > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Computer Music Department Manager > > IMEB > Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France > > mihalic.imeb@orange.fr > http://www.imeb.org > > tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. > fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- karrrlo From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Tue Oct 2 03:58:11 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Tue Oct 2 03:57:49 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] objectname In-Reply-To: <8DF11E92-8817-4596-A871-1BEBED5E9FDD@orange.fr> References: <8DF11E92-8817-4596-A871-1BEBED5E9FDD@orange.fr> Message-ID: On 2 oct. 07, at 11:28, Mihalic Alexander wrote: > is it possible creating or to change the name of hte object but not > with inspector but directly inside the patch? > > There are [thisobject] object but it's working only inside > inspector patch. Have a look to my ej.cn.js. The code is pretty straightforward, as far as I remember it ;-) ej From autogusto at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 04:25:22 2007 From: autogusto at gmail.com (autogusto) Date: Tue Oct 2 04:25:26 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] hide the windows name bar in windows without fullscreen ? In-Reply-To: <1c770.46fe489c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c882.47021c91@www.cycling74.com> how i can get rid of the blue name bar, from max (windows) i can't use the fullscreen message (thispatcher) cause I'm using two separated screens in horizontal span mode, that means that it's only one big screen so i have to keep my patch window in my screen and without any bar. so how can get rid of that name bar (max bar) and how is can get rid of the start (botton) windows bar, (with the start button and the time is), i can hide it from windows but it never hide completely From lists at lowfrequency.org Tue Oct 2 04:43:56 2007 From: lists at lowfrequency.org (evan.raskob [lists]) Date: Tue Oct 2 04:38:34 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Max blogs - A la processing blogs In-Reply-To: <12D7346F-3A1D-4CE2-BBEA-E3DF60C33785@broadpark.no> References: <1c634.46fa5a94@www.cycling74.com> <12D7346F-3A1D-4CE2-BBEA-E3DF60C33785@broadpark.no> Message-ID: <2EBDCA0E-93CF-4C26-883E-83A679C1B8D2@lowfrequency.org> yes, very easy to do using pipes - if you send me more blogs then I will add them. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=Ksl_PNBw3BGGT_b6l7okhQ It uses the category field from the RSS/Atom feed to filter out max/ jitter posts (category= maxmspjitter OR Max/MSP OR Jitter) (right now it's my site, vade's site, and dan winkler's site, although he doesn't seem to tag things as max/jitter much) cheers evan On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Espen E. Sommer wrote: > Sounds like a job for yahoo pipes - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ - > if anyone has a list of blogs it should be done in no time. > > E > > Den 26. sep. 2007 kl. 15.11 skrev matt: > >> >> Awesome idea! >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Tue Oct 2 05:20:03 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Tue Oct 2 05:20:05 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Automatically emptied tmp folder... Message-ID: <47022963.1050103@addcom.de> Is there a place in OS X/Windows to store temporarily files, which would be erased automatically when I close max? Just curious. I know the tmp folder in OS X, but that seems only be emptied on restart of the computer, which is a rare occasion on an OS X machine... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Tue Oct 2 05:35:10 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Tue Oct 2 05:35:10 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Seperating/Parsing incoming data into numbers and characters ? In-Reply-To: <1c6e0.46fc20ca@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c6e0.46fc20ca@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47022CEE.704@addcom.de> Robert Ramirez schrieb: > look at the regexp object. > the help file tells how to do just that. I bet its simple if you know how, but the help files only tells something for those who know already. And it certainly doesn't tell "just that". I get into regexp in and out, but I think its just a machine oriented language. And the help file needs big improvements to be helpfull for those who don't know... Each of the commands in the subpatcher "moreaboutREs" needs at least two examples to get the idea... I always come back to simply atoi the message, then test for what I need and itoa again. Seems much more complicated, but I'll understand it when I come back to my patch... But to do what was the original question, I'd iter, route int, and zl group again: #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 135 230 195 196617 again questions and answers...; #P newex 135 207 62 196617 prepend set; #P message 37 250 195 196617 2 100; #P newex 37 227 62 196617 prepend set; #P newex 66 107 33 196617 t b l; #P newex 135 184 44 196617 zl group; #P newex 89 184 44 196617 zl group; #P newex 89 159 50 196617 route int; #P newex 89 135 50 196617 iter; #P message 66 81 214 196617 again 2 questions and 100 answers...; #P connect 4 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P connect 3 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 7 0; #P fasten 5 0 3 0 71 181 94 181; #P fasten 5 0 4 0 71 181 140 181; #P connect 5 1 1 0; #P connect 0 0 5 0; #P connect 2 1 4 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 1 0 2 0; #P window clipboard copycount 10; -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Oct 2 05:36:00 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Oct 2 05:36:04 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Automatically emptied tmp folder... In-Reply-To: <47022963.1050103@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1c88a.47022d20@www.cycling74.com> Seconded, I'd love to have that feature too.. Mattijs Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Tue, 02 October 2007 13:20 ---------------------------------------------------- > Is there a place in OS X/Windows to store temporarily files, which would > be erased automatically when I close max? Just curious. I know the tmp > folder in OS X, but that seems only be emptied on restart of the > computer, which is a rare occasion on an OS X machine... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Tue Oct 2 05:41:35 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Tue Oct 2 05:41:36 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Editing built application/collective In-Reply-To: <1c6e3.46fc2931@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c6e3.46fc2931@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47022E6F.50500@addcom.de> Amanda schrieb: > I'd like to make some changes to a patch I made a while back, but I > can't find my original .pat file. All I have now is the standalone > application I built from it. Is there a way to edit something once > its been made into an ap or .mxf? I tried showing the contents of the > application and opening them in Max but I can't edit. You seem to be the first I know, who owns Max to build a standalone for personal use... ;-) It is maybe possible for hackers who would faster rebuilt the patch from scratch anyway. But collectives and standalones are not made to easily retrieve the source code. They are not heavily protected or encrypted either though... But as you made it yourself, it should be easy to rebuild. Take it as a lesson to make your backups. It will take you less time, than the first time, and the result will be better than the first... Good luck Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Tue Oct 2 05:45:55 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Tue Oct 2 05:45:56 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: which object for playing standard midifiles? In-Reply-To: <4FB4E216-C1CB-4A38-AE73-81270BEFEED7@csf.edu> References: <1c6e2.46fc2461@www.cycling74.com> <4FB4E216-C1CB-4A38-AE73-81270BEFEED7@csf.edu> Message-ID: <47022F73.6070101@addcom.de> Steven Miller schrieb: > Just a tip - Get used to looking in the Max and/or MSP reference manual > under 'Object Thesaurus' to find objects which will do a specific task > you're interested in doing. And if you want the Thesaurus as a max patch which also loads the help files, go to http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/StefanTiedje have fun... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Spa8nky at hotmail.com Tue Oct 2 06:19:05 2007 From: Spa8nky at hotmail.com (Rhys Perkins) Date: Tue Oct 2 06:19:09 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Fun with click~ In-Reply-To: <1c798.46fec1a1@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c88d.47023738@www.cycling74.com> Thankyou for the advice gentlemen, if anybody else has any interesting ideas on what can be done with this object then I'd love to hear more. I'm find all kind of nifty little sounds with click~ thanks to this info! From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Tue Oct 2 06:21:31 2007 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Tue Oct 2 06:21:38 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: objectname In-Reply-To: <1c87b.4702157f@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c87b.4702157f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: thanks, I found all this, works well! Le 2 oct. 07 ? 11:55, karl-otto von oertzen a ?crit : > > > check the [thispatcher] object. > in the helpfile you ll some scripting examples, look for the > "script class..." script for rename objects. > and "script new ..." for creating new objects. > > Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Tue Oct 2 06:29:21 2007 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Tue Oct 2 06:29:26 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] hide the windows name bar in windows without fullscreen ? In-Reply-To: <1c882.47021c91@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c882.47021c91@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1759C0B0-9D60-4423-90D9-36FD08386264@orange.fr> message "window notitle" -> [thispatcher] Le 2 oct. 07 ? 12:25, autogusto a ?crit : > > how i can get rid of the blue name bar, from max (windows) > i can't use the fullscreen message (thispatcher) cause I'm using > two separated screens in horizontal span mode, that means that it's > only one big screen so i have to keep my patch window in my screen > and without any bar. > > so how can get rid of that name bar (max bar) and > how is can get rid of the start (botton) windows bar, (with the > start button and the time is), i can hide it from windows but it > never hide completely > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From lists at simonadcock.co.uk Tue Oct 2 06:51:41 2007 From: lists at simonadcock.co.uk (lists@simonadcock.co.uk) Date: Tue Oct 2 06:51:51 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Automatically emptied tmp folder... In-Reply-To: <1c88a.47022d20@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <001f01c804f2$fad1cf70$150ba8c0@simonslaptop> It's not automatic, but I've put together an mxj object that deletes all files in a specified directory. Might be of some use... max v2; #N vpatcher 15 55 615 455; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 343 250 101 9109513 mxj quickie deletefiles; #P message 174 141 125 9109513 deletefiles c:/somedirectory; #P newex 174 163 69 9109513 mxj deletefiles; #P connect 1 0 0 0; #P pop; be careful! ;-) Simon -----Original Message----- From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com] On Behalf Of Mattijs Kneppers Sent: 02 October 2007 12:36 To: maxmsp@cycling74.com Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Automatically emptied tmp folder... Seconded, I'd love to have that feature too.. Mattijs Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Tue, 02 October 2007 13:20 ---------------------------------------------------- > Is there a place in OS X/Windows to store temporarily files, which would > be erased automatically when I close max? Just curious. I know the tmp > folder in OS X, but that seems only be emptied on restart of the > computer, which is a rare occasion on an OS X machine... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling _______________________________________________ maxmsp mailing list maxmsp@cycling74.com http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: deletefiles.class Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1221 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20071002/b13205d1/deletefiles.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name this parse #P outlet 111 278 15 0; #P inlet 111 50 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 66 119 33 196617 dump; #P newex 66 92 20 196617 t b; #P message 206 119 33 196617 clear; #P newex 206 92 20 196617 t b; #P message 173 183 18 196617 cr; #P newex 173 156 20 196617 t b; #P newex 111 249 51 196617 route set; #P newex 111 225 40 196617 text; #P newex 111 119 73 196617 route int float; #P newex 111 92 25 196617 iter; #P connect 6 0 7 0; #P fasten 10 0 8 0 116 76 71 76; #P connect 10 0 0 0; #P fasten 10 0 6 0 116 76 211 76; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P fasten 1 2 2 0 178 147 116 147; #P connect 1 2 4 0; #P connect 3 0 11 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P fasten 5 0 2 0 178 206 116 206; #P fasten 9 0 2 0 71 166 116 166; #P fasten 7 0 2 0 211 212 116 212; #P connect 1 0 2 0; #P fasten 1 1 2 0 147 142 116 142; #P connect 0 0 1 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P window clipboard copycount 12; Name this parse.help #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 182 372 84 196617 sort -1 -1 \, dump; #P message 688 261 33 196617 clear; #P newex 357 424 32 196617 print; #P message 600 257 39 196617 set \$1; #P newex 505 259 62 196617 prepend set; #P button 289 57 15 0; #P newex 289 87 40 196617 Uzi 50; #P newex 289 174 40 196617 Uzi; #P newex 289 206 64 196617 random 128; #P newex 289 235 55 196617 zl group 4; #P newex 352 150 27 196617 + 2; #P newex 352 125 52 196617 random 5; #P newex 600 228 38 196617 * 500; #P newex 600 199 58 196617 random 20; #P newex 416 209 52 196617 random 3; #P user umenu 416 233 100 196647 1 64 249 1; #X add marx; #X add lenin; #X add engalls; #P newex 369 481 59 196617 print index; #N coll ; #T flags 1 0; #T 0 lenin 24 107 114 57 89 18 lenin 19 52 48 18 76 engalls 126 79; #T 500 lenin 98 92 lenin 100 127 116; #T 1000 lenin 85 78 48 8 51 engalls 47 42 72 lenin 100 88 83 37; #T 1500 lenin 66 49 85 engalls 113 98 32 119 lenin 66 44 2 30 63 10 lenin 123 83 80 marx 42 74 105 75 38 marx 64 8 83; #T 2000 lenin 49 42 engalls 26 104; #T 2500 engalls 109 101 80 127 23 114; #T 3000 lenin 101 57 30 58 76 3 lenin 99 88 67 46; #T 3500 lenin 99 12 engalls 110 64 31 30 120 lenin 126 4 80 82 51 lenin 41 81 92 62 35 20; #T 4000 marx 5 4 95 17 engalls 31 100; #T 4500 engalls 31 14 79 53; #T 5000 lenin 9 52 43 64 engalls 28 65 18 80; #T 5500 lenin 88 94 115 65 engalls 69 116 72 engalls 92 56 96 lenin 68 93 95 34; #T 6000 lenin 124 77 4 63 marx 10 81 100 84 marx 37 48 82 41 127 32; #T 6500 marx 77 11 2 75 26 marx 127 115 61 8 21; #T 7000 lenin 58 117 86 126 82 4 lenin 88 55 33 75 74 lenin 26 49 28 marx 125 50 109 92 56 41; #T 8000 lenin 71 119 39 2 120 106; #T 8500 lenin 15 53 49 110 4 20 marx 36 109; #T 9000 engalls 47 21 103 99 5 lenin 80 55 lenin 70 78 118 19 35 lenin 12 70 38; #T 9500 engalls 26 85 22 87 33 lenin 102 95 14 63 32 108; #P newobj 290 423 53 196617 coll; #P newex 290 480 73 196617 print message; #P newex 290 452 34 196617 parse; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 18.; #P comment 49 55 100 196626 parse; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 3; #P comment 50 87 100 196617 by Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College ?2005; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 289 333 45 196617 prepend; #P newex 290 370 76 196617 prepend merge; #P newex 289 291 45 196617 prepend; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 14.; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 170 56 100 196622 make some messages; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P comment 429 129 100 196617 <- vary the number of arguments; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 12.; #P comment 179 331 100 196620 look into the coll first then; #P connect 22 0 21 0; #P connect 21 0 20 0; #P connect 20 0 19 0; #P connect 19 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 3 0; #P fasten 23 0 3 0 510 282 294 282; #P fasten 24 0 5 0 605 313 294 313; #P connect 3 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 10 0; #P fasten 26 0 10 0 693 407 295 407; #P connect 27 0 10 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P fasten 17 0 20 1 357 170 324 170; #P fasten 17 0 18 1 357 227 339 227; #P fasten 21 0 16 0 294 117 357 117; #P connect 16 0 17 0; #P connect 4 0 25 0; #P connect 10 1 11 0; #P fasten 21 0 13 0 294 114 421 114; #P connect 13 0 12 0; #P connect 12 1 23 0; #P fasten 21 0 14 0 294 111 605 111; #P connect 14 0 15 0; #P connect 15 0 24 0; #P fasten 22 0 26 0 294 79 693 79; #P window clipboard copycount 28; Cheers Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Oct 2 08:30:55 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Oct 2 08:30:59 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: Re: Automatically emptied tmp folder... In-Reply-To: <001f01c804f2$fad1cf70$150ba8c0@simonslaptop> Message-ID: <1c89a.4702561f@www.cycling74.com> Hey, thanks! Mattijs Quote: simon adcock wrote on Tue, 02 October 2007 14:51 ---------------------------------------------------- > It's not automatic, but I've put together an mxj object that deletes all > files in a specified directory. Might be of some use... > > max v2; > #N vpatcher 15 55 615 455; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 343 250 101 9109513 mxj quickie deletefiles; > #P message 174 141 125 9109513 deletefiles c:/somedirectory; > #P newex 174 163 69 9109513 mxj deletefiles; > #P connect 1 0 0 0; > #P pop; > > be careful! ;-) > > Simon > > -----Original Message----- > From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com] On > Behalf Of Mattijs Kneppers > Sent: 02 October 2007 12:36 > Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Automatically emptied tmp folder... > > > Seconded, I'd love to have that feature too.. > > Mattijs > > Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Tue, 02 October 2007 13:20 > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Is there a place in OS X/Windows to store temporarily files, which would > > be erased automatically when I close max? Just curious. I know the tmp > > folder in OS X, but that seems only be emptied on restart of the > > computer, which is a rare occasion on an OS X machine... > > > > Stefan > > > > -- > > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > > --_____-----------|-------------- > > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl > Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From karrrlo at yahoo.com Tue Oct 2 09:03:57 2007 From: karrrlo at yahoo.com (karl-otto von oertzen) Date: Tue Oct 2 09:04:02 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Automatically emptied tmp folder... In-Reply-To: <47022963.1050103@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1c89e.47025ddc@www.cycling74.com> i dont know for windows but for OSX , you can do it with [shell]. this erases a given folder : max v2; #N vpatcher 30 89 1019 807; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 435 90 266 196617 rm -r /Users/myUserName/Documents/myFolder 2>&1; #P newex 435 157 32 196617 print; #P newex 435 120 31 196617 shell; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 556 126 100 196617 erases folder "myFolder"; #P comment 558 159 100 196617 2>&1 shows errors in [print]; #P connect 4 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P pop; additionnally this should work : "rm -r /tmp/myfile" no time for trying myself, i d be curious as well if you find more about it best k Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Tue, 02 October 2007 13:20 ---------------------------------------------------- > Is there a place in OS X/Windows to store temporarily files, which would > be erased automatically when I close max? Just curious. I know the tmp > folder in OS X, but that seems only be emptied on restart of the > computer, which is a rare occasion on an OS X machine... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- karrrlo From pnyboer at slambassador.com Tue Oct 2 09:46:26 2007 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (pnyboer) Date: Tue Oct 2 09:46:30 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: How to make surround sound controller in Max/MSP In-Reply-To: <1c487.46f3e0cb@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8a2.470267d1@www.cycling74.com> http://cicm.mshparisnord.org/ has some good spatialization tools, including some Trajectory tools, that, when used in conjunction with vbap and cartopol, can make lots of fun with many speakers! peter. -- * * * * The Altamont 2 oz light rum 3/4 oz lime juice 1/2 oz orange cura?ao 1/4 oz orgeat splash of pernod handful of fresh mint leaves shake contents vigorously with ice. Strain well into a chilled cocktail glass. * * * * From pcastine at gmx.net Tue Oct 2 10:33:10 2007 From: pcastine at gmx.net (Peter Castine) Date: Tue Oct 2 10:33:26 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: message box colors and standalones. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1c8a6.470272c6@www.cycling74.com> Try this. You will notice I’ve put it into my Extras folder (onecopy). The patch was not originally mine, someone else posted something similar to the list about a week after Max 4 came out. I just tweaked it a bit. #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P hidden newex 352 109 44 196617 onecopy; #P window linecount 2; #P message 115 113 145 196617 \; max boxcolor \$4 \$1 \$2 \$3 1; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 115 90 64 196617 pack 0 0 0 0; #P button 91 17 15 0; #P message 115 45 28 196617 next; #P newex 115 17 40 196617 Uzi 16; #N coll defaultcolors; #T flags 1 0; #T 0 170 170 170; #T 1 204 156 97; #T 2 255 189 156; #T 3 204 140 140; #T 4 255 156 156; #T 5 255 227 23; #T 6 40 204 140; #T 7 74 156 97; #T 8 97 156 156; #T 9 156 179 255; #T 10 194 181 207; #T 11 153 153 255; #T 12 102 102 204; #T 13 153 102 153; #T 14 255 92 174; #T 15 255 138 215; #P newobj 115 63 85 196617 coll defaultcolors; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 9 8 82 196617 click to reset default colors ->; #P connect 1 1 5 3; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P connect 1 0 5 0; #P connect 3 0 1 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 4 0 2 0; #P window clipboard copycount 8; -- -------------- http://www.bek.no/~pcastine/Litter/ ------------- Peter Castine +--> Litter Power & Litter Bundle for Jitter iCE: Sequencing, Recording & Interface Building for Max/MSP Extremely cool http://www.dspaudio.com/ From lists at asquare.org Tue Oct 2 10:36:14 2007 From: lists at asquare.org (Garrett Lynch) Date: Tue Oct 2 10:36:22 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: using filepath - adding a sub directory In-Reply-To: <1c7fe.47002549@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8a7.4702737d@www.cycling74.com> Hi your right and it did start doing this, i need to start using t b b more often, I always forget about the right to left order. anyway i did this which seems to work just as well max v2; #N vpatcher 501 322 1101 722; #P origin 0 -87; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 98 45 48 196617 loadbang; #P message 98 68 27 196617 path; #N thispatcher; #Q end; #P newobj 98 89 70 196617 thispatcher; #B color 5; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 126 63 113 196617 Automatically retrieve current files path; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 328 106 82 196617 Choose a folder; #P button 313 105 15 0; #P newex 313 123 74 196617 opendialog fold; #P newex 246 203 60 196617 prepend set; #P message 158 224 35 196617 set \$1; #P newex 158 146 49 196617 tosymbol; #B color 5; #P newex 158 125 84 196617 sprintf %sfiles/; #P comment 99 316 143 196617 The Current search path 8; #P window linecount 2; #P message 88 330 352 196617 "GarrettG5:/Users/garrett/Desktop/network performance/research/tests/files/"; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 158 203 80 196617 prepend symbol; #P newex 158 175 63 196617 relativepath; #P newex 246 233 84 196617 filepath search 8; #B color 5; #P comment 330 235 105 196617 Use as search path 8; #P fasten 8 0 4 0 163 292 93 292; #P connect 16 0 15 0; #P connect 15 0 14 0; #P connect 14 1 6 0; #P connect 6 0 7 0; #P fasten 10 0 2 0 318 168 163 168; #P connect 7 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 3 0 8 0; #P fasten 2 0 9 0 163 197 251 197; #P connect 9 0 1 0; #P connect 11 0 10 0; #P pop; thanks for your help a+ gar From lists at asquare.org Tue Oct 2 10:40:10 2007 From: lists at asquare.org (Garrett Lynch) Date: Tue Oct 2 10:40:15 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: using filepath - adding a sub directory In-Reply-To: <1c8a7.4702737d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8a8.4702746a@www.cycling74.com> scratch that, yours wins :) a+ gar From lists at asquare.org Tue Oct 2 10:50:35 2007 From: lists at asquare.org (Garrett Lynch) Date: Tue Oct 2 10:50:46 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: using filepath - adding a sub directory In-Reply-To: <1c7de.46ffde19@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8a9.470276db@www.cycling74.com> mmm is there something about thispatcher that makes it not work in collectives or max runtime, can't seem to retrieve the path from thispatcher with your patch or mine. a+ gar From garton at columbia.edu Tue Oct 2 10:51:51 2007 From: garton at columbia.edu (garton@columbia.edu) Date: Tue Oct 2 10:51:57 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] command-line args for standalones? Message-ID: <1191343911.470277270d11f@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Hey maxers -- Does anyone know if it's possible to pass in arguments from a command-line invocation of a max-created standalone app? Something like this: open maxapp.app 1 2 3 4 I scanned through the tutorials and list archives and didn't find anything; probably can't be done. brad http://music.columbia.edu/~brad From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Tue Oct 2 11:00:26 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Tue Oct 2 11:00:53 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] command-line args for standalones? In-Reply-To: <1191343911.470277270d11f@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1191343911.470277270d11f@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Message-ID: On 2 oct. 07, at 18:51, garton@columbia.edu wrote: > Hey maxers -- > > Does anyone know if it's possible to pass in arguments from a > command-line invocation of a max-created standalone app? Something > like this: > > open maxapp.app 1 2 3 4 > > I scanned through the tutorials and list archives and didn't find > anything; probably can't be done. This is not supported, like for most UI applications. However, I'd suggest that you create a script which takes those arguments, write them in a file, open your maxapp, and ask your maxapp to look at that file. Best, ej From gusanomaxlist at googlemail.com Tue Oct 2 11:26:55 2007 From: gusanomaxlist at googlemail.com (gusano) Date: Tue Oct 2 11:27:05 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Window size Fixing In-Reply-To: <1c859.47016580@www.cycling74.com> References: <1c859.47016580@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <795f94be0710021026h297428feqddf35bb53b670274@mail.gmail.com> You can loadbang the message "window size 100 100 400 300, window exec" to [thispatcher] object (the 4 numbers are the left, top, right, bottom coordinates of your patch window). This and a lot of other cool stuffs can be found in the help of [thispatcher]. Cheers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20071002/e7521665/attachment.htm From garton at columbia.edu Tue Oct 2 11:40:48 2007 From: garton at columbia.edu (garton@columbia.edu) Date: Tue Oct 2 11:40:54 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] command-line args for standalones? In-Reply-To: References: <1191343911.470277270d11f@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Message-ID: <1191346848.470282a0224fd@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Quoting Emmanuel Jourdan : > This is not supported, like for most UI applications. That's what I suspected. > However, I'd suggest that you create a script which takes > those arguments, write them in a file, open your maxapp, > and ask your maxapp to look at that file. and that's what I'll do. Thanks! brad http://music.columbia.edu/~brad From xlight63 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 2 11:41:25 2007 From: xlight63 at hotmail.com (UCDMSRA) Date: Tue Oct 2 11:41:31 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: How to make surround sound controller in Max/MSP In-Reply-To: <1c8a2.470267d1@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8b4.470282c5@www.cycling74.com> Quote: pnyboer wrote on Tue, 02 October 2007 09:46 ---------------------------------------------------- > http://cicm.mshparisnord.org/ > has some good spatialization tools, including some Trajectory tools, that, when used in conjunction with vbap and cartopol, can make lots of fun with many speakers! > > peter. > ---------------------------------------------------- Hi, Yes CICM is very cool. I downloaded their objects and tired it and it is awesome. I used one of their example patch for part of my project. It just I don't know why if I just copy-past from the example patch to my patch, it doesn't work very well. I end of using the example patch as bpatch. Do you have this problem? thanks From mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu Tue Oct 2 12:01:02 2007 From: mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu (mzed) Date: Tue Oct 2 12:01:06 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: How to make surround sound controller in Max/MSP In-Reply-To: <1c875.4701e193@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8b6.4702875e@www.cycling74.com> Oh, by the way, thanks for the js file. I just want to make sure that where should I put this file? should I change the name of file? Replace the old speaker_placement.js with the one I sent. mz -- || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ || http://www.mikezed.com/ From hdenolly at wanadoo.fr Tue Oct 2 12:32:23 2007 From: hdenolly at wanadoo.fr (hdenolly) Date: Tue Oct 2 12:32:28 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] percolate crash Message-ID: <1c8b9.47028eb5@www.cycling74.com> Hi When I load certains percolate objects like whistle~ Max (4.6.3 MacOs 10.4.10 Imac G5 PPc) crash immediatly another objets like marimba~ work very well .(I use Percolate_UB) Is there an issue to this crashing? thanks Hugues From larsull at web.de Tue Oct 2 12:44:10 2007 From: larsull at web.de (Lars Ullrich) Date: Tue Oct 2 12:44:32 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] breakpoints controller Message-ID: <1c8bb.47029178@www.cycling74.com> Hi, I was asking myself it is possible to controller every breakpoint of a envelope. I tryed to do this with funnel, but no way.. max v2; #N vpatcher 10 59 610 459; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P number 317 117 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user uslider 317 72 25 25 20 1 0 0; #P number 277 117 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user uslider 277 72 25 25 20 1 0 0; #P user function 237 231 437 331 1 1 0 0; #X frgb 82 82 82; #X brgb 204 204 204; #X rgb2 85 85 85; #X rgb3 255 255 255; #X rgb4 0 0 0; #X rgb5 0 0 0; #X add 1. 0. 0; #X add 1000. 1. 0; #X add 138.297867 0.706667 0; #X add 239.361694 0.293333 0; #X add 441.489349 0.106667 0; #X add 590.425537 0.12 0; #X add 936.170166 0. 0; #X domain 1000.; #X range 0. 1.; #X done; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 152 146 180 196617 funnel 5; #B color 5; #P message 91 216 61 196617 1 0; #P number 236 117 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 194 118 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 152 118 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user uslider 152 73 25 25 20 1 0 0; #P user uslider 194 73 25 25 20 1 0 0; #P user uslider 236 72 25 25 20 1 0 0; #P message 91 176 54 196617 set \$1 \$2; #P connect 8 0 0 0; #P connect 0 0 7 0; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 8 0; #P connect 2 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 8 1; #P connect 1 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 8 2; #P connect 0 0 9 0; #P connect 10 0 11 0; #P connect 11 0 8 3; #P connect 12 0 13 0; #P connect 13 0 8 4; #P pop; From peimankhosravi at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:10:27 2007 From: peimankhosravi at gmail.com (peiman khosravi) Date: Tue Oct 2 13:10:43 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Off topic, advice on Audio interface please :-) In-Reply-To: <86B0D19B-2CF3-4290-8127-48B62A4BDF66@gmail.com> References: <1c83c.47012d30@www.cycling74.com> <84997AC9-AACF-4D44-BC83-D3121D0B8966@gmail.com> <86B0D19B-2CF3-4290-8127-48B62A4BDF66@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6B949F46-A7D6-435D-AE6B-1E05AB623BF0@gmail.com> Thanks for the replies everyone. In case you are interested, today I got firebox and it sounds great. With the 96khz playback and recording it's so much better than the mbox. The level is also way higher, suddenly I am getting a lot of full bodied sound (without noise or distortion) compared with what I had before with mbox 2, and so much easier to set up (no software to install and so on), ah yes and cheaper! Also works with max like a dream... Thanks for the suggestions ;-) Best Peiman On 2 Oct 2007, at 01:03, jln wrote: > > Le 2 oct. 07 ? 01:41, peiman khosravi a ?crit : > >> Thanks Don, >> >> That's what I was hoping to hear, as the price looks great! >> >> Thanks again >> Peima > > I second this. I use a Firepod and am really happy with it. As it > is discontinuated now, maybe you can find some interesting second > hand prices if you want more inputs/outputs. > > > Best, > Julien. > > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From adamjmurray at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:11:49 2007 From: adamjmurray at gmail.com (Adam Murray) Date: Tue Oct 2 13:11:56 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: breakpoints controller In-Reply-To: <1c8bb.47029178@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8c1.470297f4@www.cycling74.com> You are just trying to move the breakpoints up and down with the sliders? You have two mistakes: you should be converting the slider values to float values in the range 0. - 1. (or whatever the range of the breakpoint function object happens to be), and to set a particular point the documentation says you need to pass in three numbers: index x y. So something like the patch below might be what you are looking for. You may want to look into using a multislider instead of a bunch of separate sliders. #P user uslider 538 47 26 73 128 1 0 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 538 175 72 196617 prepend 1000; #P newex 538 149 40 196617 / 127.; #P user uslider 458 48 26 73 128 1 0 0; #P newex 458 175 66 196617 prepend 800; #P newex 458 150 40 196617 / 127.; #P user uslider 379 49 26 73 128 1 0 0; #P newex 379 176 66 196617 prepend 600; #P newex 379 151 40 196617 / 127.; #P user uslider 300 50 26 73 128 1 0 0; #P newex 300 177 66 196617 prepend 400; #P newex 300 152 40 196617 / 127.; #P user uslider 221 51 26 73 128 1 0 0; #P newex 221 178 66 196617 prepend 200; #P newex 221 153 40 196617 / 127.; #P user uslider 142 52 26 73 128 1 0 0; #P newex 302 284 79 196617 funnel 6; #P newex 142 179 54 196617 prepend 0; #P newex 142 154 40 196617 / 127.; #P user function 222 319 422 419 1 1 0 0; #X frgb 82 82 82; #X brgb 204 204 204; #X rgb2 85 85 85; #X rgb3 255 255 255; #X rgb4 0 0 0; #X rgb5 0 0 0; #X add 0. 0. 0; #X add 200. 0.433071 0; #X add 400. 0.614173 0; #X add 600. 0.606299 0; #X add 800. 0.322835 0; #X add 1000. 0. 0; #X domain 1000.; #X range 0. 1.; #X done; #P connect 18 0 3 5; #P connect 17 0 18 0; #P connect 19 0 17 0; #P connect 3 0 0 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 6 0 3 1; #P connect 9 0 3 2; #P connect 12 0 3 3; #P connect 15 0 3 4; #P connect 14 0 15 0; #P connect 11 0 12 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P connect 16 0 14 0; #P connect 13 0 11 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 7 0 5 0; #P connect 1 0 2 0; #P connect 4 0 1 0; #P window clipboard copycount 20; From adamjmurray at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:17:30 2007 From: adamjmurray at gmail.com (Adam Murray) Date: Tue Oct 2 13:17:34 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: percolate crash In-Reply-To: <1c8b9.47028eb5@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8c2.4702994a@www.cycling74.com> I just played with it for a bit and it did not crash my Max. I am on an intel powerbook. I have the same version of Max and OS X. -Adam From mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu Tue Oct 2 13:25:03 2007 From: mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu (mzed) Date: Tue Oct 2 13:25:08 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: message box colors and standalones. In-Reply-To: <1c6dd.46fc163f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c8c4.47029b0e@www.cycling74.com> > > you _can change the runtimes? colors from within a patch, but i would recommend against this. > > What you should do is use "; max getboxcolor" to interrogate and remember the user's color's right before you change them, and then use closebang to restore them on your way out. Reverse engineer the Colors patch in the Options menu to help figure that out. mz -- || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ || http://www.mikezed.com/ From gaussroms at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 13:38:43 2007 From: gaussroms at gmail.com (petterdass) Date: Tue Oct 2 13:38:47 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: which object for playing standard midifiles? In-Reply-To: <47022F73.6070101@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1c8c6.47029e43@www.cycling74.com> ill check it out soon, i found out i just need to use midiparse after seq~ - problem solved Thanks! From batchku at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 14:38:16 2007 From: batchku at gmail.com (batchku) Date: Tue Oct 2 14:38:26 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Announcement: 2008 Spark Festival Call for Works Message-ID: <1c8c8.4702ac35@www.cycling74.com> Dear all, It is my pleasure to announce the 6th annual Spark Festival for Electronic Music and Art. Below you will find the call for works. Site is: http://spark.cla.umn.edu/ Call is: http://spark.cla.umn.edu/submissions.html --------------------------- CALL FOR ARTISTS, COMPOSERS, and PRESENTERS Submission Deadline: 11:59pm PST, October 26, 2007 (postmarked) The University of Minnesota West Bank Arts Quarter is proud to present the 2008 Spark Festival of Electronic Music and Art, February 26-March 2. The festival will be held on the Minneapolis campus of the University of Minnesota (USA) and neighboring Minneapolis performing arts venues, and will feature guest artists Iancu Dumitrescu, Anna-Maria Avram, Richard Devine, Paul Demarinis, and others to be announced. Starting this year, Spark is cosponsored by the University of Minnesota’s new Interdisciplinary Program in Collaborative Arts (IPCA), a new initiative that encourages a