[maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: aka.iPhone / Experiment 2

just because the immediate uses of an interface seem limited, it's  
not the case that widespread interest in that interface is  
'insulting' or 'fucking stupid.'

remember that there have been a lot of incidences of new technology  
or schools of thought in music whose ramifications were not  
immediately apparent.  they threw tomatoes at 'rite of spring'.  jazz  
was not recognized as a legitimate art form by lincoln center until  
the 70s.  dylan, elvis and the beatles were mocked.  gameboy music  
was as well, and that's continuing as a genre.  lo-fi rock and beats  
as well.  serialism.  laptop musicianship in general.

turntablism would be worthy of the insults hurled at it if it were  
the only control and people were touting it as such.  but it's  
another widget to add to the modern musician's arsenal.  do not mock  
instruments because their usage seems simplistic.  orchestral music  
still includes scores for triangles.  the jew's harp has been used to  
great effect.

i maintain that arrogant statement such as yours are far more  
damaging - and risible after the fact! - than the efforts of those  
people who keep an eye out for new expressive interfaces.

On Oct 1, 2007, at 4:05 AM, f.e wrote:

> So don't begin.
>
> Don't play your cold virgins. Turntablism was insulting, mostly.  
> Yeah, pleasant time with scratch, beautiful moments, and so what ?
>
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>> Yeah, I dont even know where to begin with that one. Ever seen  
>> 'Scratch' ?
>> On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Robert Ramirez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Reminds me of this stupid turntablism we had to bear for last 20  
>>>> years. Only a few guys like Kid Koala were able to use this shit  
>>>> as an instrument, and in only 25 minutes performances. After  
>>>> that, he's sweating like the Red Hot Chili Peppers...
>>>
>>> very insulting and ignorant comment, by the way.
>>> but whatever.
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