From danjel at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 02:18:18 2007 From: danjel at gmail.com (Danjel van Tijn) Date: Sat Sep 1 02:18:23 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: testing analogue~ In-Reply-To: <10d61.44490019@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdd9.46d9203f@www.cycling74.com> I just tried to use analogue~ recently (for the first time) and even the help file demo was crashing max each time I played with it for a few minutes. I am using Windos XP pro with a pentium duo core . The tones were really nice before the crash so it would be great to get an updated bug free version. cheers, Danjel From lossius at bek.no Sat Sep 1 03:36:00 2007 From: lossius at bek.no (Trond Lossius) Date: Sat Sep 1 03:36:24 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: reliable installation hardware advice In-Reply-To: <1bdd5.46d8ccc7@www.cycling74.com> References: <1bdd5.46d8ccc7@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <46D93280.2090108@bek.no> Hi, I have used 828mkII extensively in installations on a number of computers over several years, with very reliable results, so you should be able to get this working. Some hints: - I assume that you have installed the newest drivers from MOTU? - What version of OSX do you have? AFAIR the 10.4.9 or 10.4.10 introduced some glitches in AudioUnit that were later fixed by an incremental update. Do a software update, or even better: download the combo update (check the list archives for imor einfo on this). - I usually use i/o vector size 512 and the other at 64, overdrive and scheduler in audio interrupt on. - start out testing that the 828 in general work well with the OS by opening AudioMidiSetup, setting system out to 828, and chekc that you have sound through the sound card in e.g. iTunes or QuickTime. - Next start Max, and open a very simple patch, e.g. the audio out test patch from the Extras menu. Do this work, or crash Max? - Trash Max preferences and restart Max if you still have problems. - If simple patches work while the real patch crash, it might indicate that the problem is with the patch, not the sound card. If so, take a look at the crash log (or post it to the list) to see if that might give some hints on what the problem is. Hope you get this working, Trond mark pilkington wrote: > I have just set up the 828 mk2 with a mini mac and max crashes when I activate the dsp. Only four more days to find a solution before the launch of the exhibition. If you can help in any way as to what may be problem please let me know. > > merci > > mark pilkington From rougiie at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 04:27:56 2007 From: rougiie at gmail.com (steffensen) Date: Sat Sep 1 04:28:01 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bd98.46d81e7b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bddb.46d93eac@www.cycling74.com> Am i the only one liking this sound? :) From nick at cassiel.com Sat Sep 1 04:47:23 2007 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Sat Sep 1 04:47:40 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: reliable installation hardware advice In-Reply-To: <46D93280.2090108@bek.no> References: <1bdd5.46d8ccc7@www.cycling74.com> <46D93280.2090108@bek.no> Message-ID: <489E5262-4A1B-47B3-B828-91B346A8D871@cassiel.com> On 1 Sep 2007, at 10:36, Trond Lossius wrote: > Some hints: And, of course, the oldest hint of all: double-check cables and connectors. Firewire cables can be notoriously flaky. -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.loadbang.net From benjaminfurbacco at free.fr Sat Sep 1 05:49:50 2007 From: benjaminfurbacco at free.fr (Benjamin Furbacco) Date: Sat Sep 1 05:49:57 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: reliable installation hardware advice In-Reply-To: <1bdd5.46d8ccc7@www.cycling74.com> References: <1bdd5.46d8ccc7@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Hi Mark, Do you have the problem when you launch the patch or when you just launch Max ? If the problem appear when you launch the patch, you can try this : Plug and switch on your audio card, then launch max ! Select the card in audio in and out. Do not activate the dsp. Then quit Max and relaunch it. Now open your patch and activate DSP ! Hope you can find out ! Tell us more if you can ! Benj Le 1 sept. 07 ? 04:22, mark pilkington a ?crit : > > I have just set up the 828 mk2 with a mini mac and max crashes when > I activate the dsp. Only four more days to find a solution before > the launch of the exhibition. If you can help in any way as to > what may be problem please let me know. > > merci > > mark pilkington > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 07:52:12 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Sat Sep 1 07:52:16 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bddb.46d93eac@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdde.46d96e8b@www.cycling74.com> sounds like noise and fm I think you could make something similar but better by doing feedback fm. Ill post a patch later if I remember but there should be a thread on the list if you search. -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From cgilarky at yahoo.co.uk Sat Sep 1 07:55:32 2007 From: cgilarky at yahoo.co.uk (Andrew Larking) Date: Sat Sep 1 07:55:36 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Hello everyone. Message-ID: <1bddf.46d96f52@www.cycling74.com> Hi all. My first post, wanted to use it to say hello. I'm a total start-up at all this, coming from a media background which is very different in terms of nothing I have ever done before was real-time or interactive. Looking forward to diving into a new world. Take care all. A. From electrobass at gmx.net Sat Sep 1 08:06:46 2007 From: electrobass at gmx.net (micha) Date: Sat Sep 1 08:06:48 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] keyboard tracking / ampscale Message-ID: <1bde1.46d971f4@www.cycling74.com> hi there! does anyone have a formula for keyboard tracking, i.e. reducing the loudness with a increasing pitch? there is some function in super collider which is called ampscale which does exactly that, but i couldn't find any formula in the sources... thanks in advance micha From jules.rawlinson at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 08:07:49 2007 From: jules.rawlinson at gmail.com (Jules Rawlinson) Date: Sat Sep 1 08:07:54 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: <550d6b020708301305t4a391d8fl37f8cccf1bd143df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1bde2.46d97235@www.cycling74.com> As an alternative, this might be worth a look... "Digital Interactive Installations: Programming Interactive Installations Using the Software Package Max/MSP/Jitter" by Frank Blum You can find it at Amazon... Don't know how good it is yet... my copy is in the post. Cheers Jules -- http://www.pixelmechanics.com http://ddm.caad.ed.ac.uk From zip at knoware.nl Sat Sep 1 08:10:21 2007 From: zip at knoware.nl (Zip Boterbloem) Date: Sat Sep 1 08:10:27 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: reliable installation hardware advice In-Reply-To: <46D93280.2090108@bek.no> References: <1bdd5.46d8ccc7@www.cycling74.com> <46D93280.2090108@bek.no> Message-ID: The 828 mk2 works fairly well, in my experience. The only problems I've had over the years (with several 828's) is high pitched noise instead of normal sound. This can be fixed with a couple of button presses. Unfortunately, in an installation the noise will often have fried your tweeters before someone notices something weird isd going on. So I"m not 100% happy with the 828 mk2. But it's quite a bit more reliable than the Traveler. Built quality is also a problem, and tech support van be slow to react/not very helpful. Things to check out: hardware malfunction(can you play iTunes stuff without problems?/doe the 828 work with other programs)/FW cable. Best, Zip Zip Boterbloem Media Mechanics Zwaluwstraat 54 2025 VR Haarlem The Netherlands +31627014758 zip@knoware.nl Op 1-sep-2007, om 11:36 heeft Trond Lossius het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > > I have used 828mkII extensively in installations on a number of > computers over several years, with very reliable results, so you > should be able to get this working. Some hints: > > - I assume that you have installed the newest drivers from MOTU? > - What version of OSX do you have? AFAIR the 10.4.9 or 10.4.10 > introduced some glitches in AudioUnit that were later fixed by an > incremental update. Do a software update, or even better: download > the combo update (check the list archives for imor einfo on this). > - I usually use i/o vector size 512 and the other at 64, overdrive > and scheduler in audio interrupt on. > - start out testing that the 828 in general work well with the OS > by opening AudioMidiSetup, setting system out to 828, and chekc > that you have sound through the sound card in e.g. iTunes or > QuickTime. > - Next start Max, and open a very simple patch, e.g. the audio out > test patch from the Extras menu. Do this work, or crash Max? > - Trash Max preferences and restart Max if you still have problems. > - If simple patches work while the real patch crash, it might > indicate that the problem is with the patch, not the sound card. If > so, take a look at the crash log (or post it to the list) to see if > that might give some hints on what the problem is. > > Hope you get this working, > Trond > > > mark pilkington wrote: >> I have just set up the 828 mk2 with a mini mac and max crashes >> when I activate the dsp. Only four more days to find a solution >> before the launch of the exhibition. If you can help in any way >> as to what may be problem please let me know. >> merci mark pilkington > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From rougiie at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 09:12:45 2007 From: rougiie at gmail.com (steffensen) Date: Sat Sep 1 09:12:49 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bd98.46d81e7b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bde5.46d9816c@www.cycling74.com> Yes, fm feedback is something i considered myself, ive been trying to use 2 op's together for the "attraction" part, and having the result feeding back into the second op (perhaps i should feed back into the first op instead..). Adjusting the level of the feedback sounds similar to the pole part of the wavepole anyway. I still havent figured out the rate part however. Its like the feedback level stands for both the rate and pole part, if i could split them up somehow.. From cbm at well.com Sat Sep 1 10:16:03 2007 From: cbm at well.com (Chris Muir) Date: Sat Sep 1 10:16:17 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Basic Synthesis In-Reply-To: <7567DC53-4F85-44A0-887E-6E045DC1FF90@gmail.com> References: <1bdb5.46d8672b@www.cycling74.com> <7567DC53-4F85-44A0-887E-6E045DC1FF90@gmail.com> Message-ID: At 9:09 PM -0700 8/31/07, barry threw wrote: >I thought you said it was supposed to be funny...? What can I say... I find high-concept, low-humor amusing. -C -- Chris Muir | "There are many futures and only one status quo. cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree, http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno From rougiie at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 10:20:35 2007 From: rougiie at gmail.com (steffensen) Date: Sat Sep 1 10:20:41 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bd98.46d81e7b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdea.46d99153@www.cycling74.com> This is what i have so far, i modulated the amplitude for the Rate part, and i think im on a right path here. max v2; #N vpatcher 26 48 869 860; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P comment 237 420 29 9109513 Rate; #P newex 66 489 28 9109513 *~ 1.; #P flonum 237 442 35 9 0. 0 1 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 237 468 54 9109513 cycle~ 100; #P flonum 120 166 35 9 0. 0 1 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N vpreset 2; #X append 1 2 4 544 66 gain~ list 96 10. \; 6 206 264 flonum float 19. \; 12 507 281 number int 0 \; 13 507 643 number int 0 \; 20 166 120 flonum float 50. \; 22 442 237 flonum; #X append 1 2 float 100. \;; #P preset 608 326 47 27; #P comment 63 149 29 9109513 Op 1; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 12.; #P comment 71 208 102 9109516 feedback signal; #P comment 207 210 27 9109516 Fm; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 125 460 54 9109513 send~ op1; #P newex 64 163 38 9109513 sig~ 50; #P number 643 507 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 281 507 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user scope~ 260 533 632 739 2 3 8 -1. 1. 0 0. 0 0. 102 255 51 135 135 135 0; #P newex 64 339 37 9109513 +~; #P newex 91 305 34 9109513 *~ 0.; #P newex 264 228 38 9109513 sig~ 19; #P newex 179 261 27 9109513 *~; #P flonum 264 206 35 9 0. 0 1 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 91 236 68 9109513 receive~ op1; #P user gain~ 66 544 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P user ezdac~ 66 687 110 720 0; #P newex 65 429 28 9109513 *~ 1.; #P newex 64 372 60 9109513 cycle~ 440; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 12.; #P comment 300 206 125 9109516 Modulation Index; #P connect 20 0 14 0; #P connect 14 0 10 0; #P connect 10 0 1 0; #P connect 1 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 23 0; #P connect 23 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 3 0; #P connect 21 0 23 1; #P connect 5 0 9 0; #P connect 9 0 10 1; #P connect 4 0 3 1; #P fasten 7 0 9 1 184 292 120 292; #P fasten 2 0 15 0 70 452 130 452; #P fasten 14 0 7 0 69 196 184 196; #P fasten 8 0 7 1 269 253 201 253; #P connect 22 0 21 0; #P fasten 23 0 11 0 71 520 265 520; #P fasten 12 0 11 0 286 527 265 527; #P connect 6 0 8 0; #P fasten 13 0 11 1 648 527 627 527; #P pop; From pierre.crepon at free.fr Sat Sep 1 10:54:18 2007 From: pierre.crepon at free.fr (pcrepon) Date: Sat Sep 1 10:54:22 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] optimisizing a midi patch Message-ID: <1bdef.46d99939@www.cycling74.com> Hello all, I'd like to ask for help on a patch I've been working on. I've done the best I could but I'm new to Max and I think what I want to do can be done in a much more efficient way. Here's the idea of the patch : I have four midi ports coming into my computer with 16 channels by port. That makes 4*4 groups of 4 channels, for each of these groups I want to be able to chose one active channel (with a rotary selector, and there must be a position where nothing come through) and route this channel to an output of my choice (the routing part I have not done yet). This must be a very simple operation but my way of doing it seems too complicated so any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Pierre Here's my patch : max v2; #N vpatcher 16 61 1070 922; #P origin 37 47; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P comment 484 525 37 9109513 D 01-04; #P comment 576 525 40 9109513 D 05-08; #P comment 671 525 38 9109513 D 09-12; #P comment 758 525 47 9109513 D 13-16; #P comment 25 525 37 9109513 B 01-04; #P comment 98 525 40 9109513 B 05-08; #P comment 183 525 38 9109513 B 09-12; #P comment 259 525 47 9109513 B 13-16; #P comment 478 274 37 9109513 C 01-04; #P comment 573 274 40 9109513 C 05-08; #P comment 668 274 38 9109513 C 09-12; #P comment 758 274 47 9109513 C 13-16; #P hidden newex 734 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 650 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 551 383 118 9109513 borax; #P hidden newex 561 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 473 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 767 494 46 9109513 ctlin 51 1; #P hidden newex 679 494 46 9109513 ctlin 50 1; #P hidden newex 582 494 46 9109513 ctlin 49 1; #P hidden newex 483 494 46 9109513 ctlin 48 1; #P user dial 758 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 703 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 760 291 54 9109513 notein d 16; #P hidden newex 746 291 54 9109513 notein d 15; #P hidden newex 720 291 54 9109513 notein d 14; #P hidden newex 697 291 54 9109513 notein d 13; #P user dial 671 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 629 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 681 291 54 9109513 notein d 12; #P hidden newex 661 291 54 9109513 notein d 11; #P hidden newex 642 291 54 9109513 notein d 10; #P hidden newex 631 291 49 9109513 notein d 9; #P newex 800 382 51 9109513 noteout a; #P user dial 576 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 539 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden number 405 424 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 405 395 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 405 368 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 405 342 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 612 291 49 9109513 notein d 8; #P user dial 484 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 446 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 582 291 49 9109513 notein d 7; #P hidden newex 566 291 49 9109513 notein d 6; #P hidden newex 451 291 49 9109513 notein d 2; #P hidden newex 468 291 49 9109513 notein d 3; #P hidden newex 501 291 49 9109513 notein d 4; #P hidden newex 552 291 49 9109513 notein d 5; #P hidden newex 429 291 49 9109513 notein d 1; #P hidden newex 721 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 650 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 574 147 118 9109513 borax; #P hidden newex 582 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 489 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 767 253 46 9109513 ctlin 35 1; #P hidden newex 680 253 46 9109513 ctlin 34 1; #P hidden newex 586 253 46 9109513 ctlin 33 1; #P hidden newex 486 253 46 9109513 ctlin 32 1; #P user dial 758 192 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 697 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 745 21 54 9109513 notein c 16; #P hidden newex 721 21 54 9109513 notein c 15; #P hidden newex 699 21 54 9109513 notein c 14; #P hidden newex 705 21 54 9109513 notein c 13; #P user dial 668 192 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 642 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 659 21 54 9109513 notein c 12; #P hidden newex 648 21 54 9109513 notein c 11; #P hidden newex 637 21 54 9109513 notein c 10; #P hidden newex 628 21 49 9109513 notein c 9; #P newex 823 153 51 9109513 noteout a; #P user dial 573 192 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 549 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden number 405 153 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 405 122 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 405 98 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 405 72 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 577 21 49 9109513 notein c 8; #P user dial 478 192 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 460 99 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 584 21 49 9109513 notein c 7; #P hidden newex 584 21 49 9109513 notein c 6; #P hidden newex 455 21 49 9109513 notein c 2; #P hidden newex 502 21 49 9109513 notein c 3; #P hidden newex 536 21 49 9109513 notein c 4; #P hidden newex 584 21 49 9109513 notein c 5; #P hidden newex 435 21 49 9109513 notein c 1; #P hidden newex 326 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 250 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 174 383 118 9109513 borax; #P hidden newex 159 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 76 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 286 494 46 9109513 ctlin 19 1; #P hidden newex 199 494 46 9109513 ctlin 18 1; #P hidden newex 122 494 46 9109513 ctlin 17 1; #P hidden newex 46 494 46 9109513 ctlin 16 1; #P user dial 259 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 302 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 314 291 54 9109513 notein b 16; #P hidden newex 305 291 54 9109513 notein b 15; #P hidden newex 297 291 54 9109513 notein b 14; #P hidden newex 285 291 54 9109513 notein b 13; #P user dial 183 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 213 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 239 291 54 9109513 notein b 12; #P hidden newex 239 291 54 9109513 notein b 11; #P hidden newex 217 291 54 9109513 notein b 10; #P hidden newex 202 291 49 9109513 notein b 9; #P newex 340 386 51 9109513 noteout a; #P user dial 98 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 134 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden number 17 476 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 17 392 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 17 369 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 19 344 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 152 291 49 9109513 notein b 8; #P user dial 25 419 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 62 340 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 159 291 49 9109513 notein b 7; #P hidden newex 123 291 49 9109513 notein b 6; #P hidden newex 35 291 49 9109513 notein b 2; #P hidden newex 74 291 49 9109513 notein b 3; #P hidden newex 88 291 49 9109513 notein b 4; #P hidden newex 124 291 49 9109513 notein b 5; #P hidden newex 33 291 49 9109513 notein b 1; #P hidden newex 310 103 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 227 103 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 174 155 118 9109513 borax; #P hidden newex 150 103 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 74 103 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 265 253 41 9109513 ctlin 3 1; 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#P hidden connect 146 0 145 0; #P hidden connect 100 1 116 4; #P hidden connect 138 1 154 4; #P hidden connect 103 0 107 1; #P hidden connect 141 0 145 1; #P hidden connect 108 0 117 0; #P hidden connect 104 0 107 2; #P hidden connect 142 0 145 2; #P hidden connect 146 0 155 0; #P hidden connect 103 1 117 1; #P hidden connect 105 0 107 3; #P hidden connect 143 0 145 3; #P hidden connect 141 1 155 1; #P hidden connect 104 1 117 2; #P hidden connect 106 0 107 4; #P hidden connect 112 0 108 0; #P hidden connect 150 0 146 0; #P hidden connect 144 0 145 4; #P hidden connect 142 1 155 2; #P hidden connect 105 1 117 3; #P hidden connect 143 1 155 3; #P hidden connect 106 1 117 4; #P hidden connect 144 1 155 4; #P hidden connect 153 3 134 0; #P hidden connect 153 4 134 1; #P hidden connect 115 3 96 0; #P hidden connect 115 4 96 1; #P pop; From digiology at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 11:20:28 2007 From: digiology at gmail.com (Ross) Date: Sat Sep 1 11:20:30 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: optimisizing a midi patch In-Reply-To: <1bdef.46d99939@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdf2.46d99f5c@www.cycling74.com> yikes! no idea what going on there! If you press shift when cabling objects together you can get lovely straight lines, then just click to get 90 degree bends. That'll at least clean things up a little : ) From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 11:33:50 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Sat Sep 1 11:33:53 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bdea.46d99153@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdf5.46d9a27e@www.cycling74.com> once you up the fm feedback index things quickly turn to noise.. there may not be white noise in his model but the effects are easily achived. I don't think hes using tremlo/ringmod for the rate property, I think the rate is actually a playback rate of a short bit of noise sampled in a buffer which is controlling the pitch. -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 11:37:05 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Sat Sep 1 11:37:10 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bd98.46d81e7b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdf6.46d9a340@www.cycling74.com> oh heheh this may be why nobody else responded and why I had a skewed vision of what this actually is: "Caution: Old Macs may produce noise." At any rate if you read that description now taht IM listening on an intel its totally different and this is a complex model that your not going to get through fm or anything else for that matter, its a complex algorythm made from scratch which does exactly what it says. This name is an invention, but this is how it works. There are n poles (3-64), which are attracted by force to their neighboor. By increasing the number of poles, the computed sound gets more complex with a lot of harmonics, where the waveform oscillate itself by the pole forces. If you be patient and try out some combination you can find some very nice atmospheric sounds. The amplitude between the poles is cubic interpolated. Note: Changing the poles count affects crack sounds, since the waveform resets without respect to any zero crossings. Tipp: You can click the slider bar to change the poles count without sliding. Update: Added rate parameter, which affects the speed of each pole. -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From thambo.godwin at googlemail.com Sat Sep 1 11:37:26 2007 From: thambo.godwin at googlemail.com (robin foster) Date: Sat Sep 1 11:37:30 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: keyboard tracking / ampscale In-Reply-To: <1bde1.46d971f4@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdf7.46d9a355@www.cycling74.com> scale or zmap? From pierre.crepon at free.fr Sat Sep 1 11:45:06 2007 From: pierre.crepon at free.fr (pcrepon) Date: Sat Sep 1 11:45:10 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: optimisizing a midi patch In-Reply-To: <1bdef.46d99939@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdf8.46d9a521@www.cycling74.com> Ok, sorry for the messy patch, this was only to prove that I am really new to Max! Here's a clean version, with only one port left. max v2; #N vpatcher 0 0 1440 830; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 263 455 37 9109513 D 01-04; #P comment 500 455 40 9109513 D 05-08; #P comment 705 455 38 9109513 D 09-12; #P comment 919 455 47 9109513 D 13-16; #P hidden newex 949 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 709 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 535 315 118 9109513 borax; #P hidden newex 422 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 280 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 920 357 46 9109513 ctlin 51 1; #P hidden newex 701 357 46 9109513 ctlin 50 1; #P hidden newex 497 357 46 9109513 ctlin 49 1; #P hidden newex 256 357 46 9109513 ctlin 48 1; #P user dial 916 383 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 870 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 1007 89 54 9109513 notein d 16; #P hidden newex 947 89 54 9109513 notein d 15; #P hidden newex 889 89 54 9109513 notein d 14; #P hidden newex 828 89 54 9109513 notein d 13; #P user dial 696 383 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 637 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 767 89 54 9109513 notein d 12; #P hidden newex 710 89 54 9109513 notein d 11; #P hidden newex 653 89 54 9109513 notein d 10; #P hidden newex 600 89 49 9109513 notein d 9; #P newex 577 549 51 9109513 noteout a; #P user dial 493 383 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 493 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden number 86 287 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 86 258 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 86 231 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 86 205 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 545 89 49 9109513 notein d 8; #P user dial 252 383 54 54 5 1 0 0 159 270 1 1. 170 170 170 221 221 221 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 209 203 66 9109513 switch 4; #P hidden newex 494 89 49 9109513 notein d 7; #P hidden newex 443 89 49 9109513 notein d 6; #P hidden newex 231 89 49 9109513 notein d 2; #P hidden newex 282 89 49 9109513 notein d 3; #P hidden newex 334 89 49 9109513 notein d 4; #P hidden newex 392 89 49 9109513 notein d 5; #P hidden newex 180 89 49 9109513 notein d 1; #P window linecount 4; #P hidden comment 31 319 100 9109513 THIS IS ONLY HERE TO SEE IF MIDI IS PASSING THROUGH CORRECTLY; #P window linecount 5; #P hidden comment 745 280 100 9109513 BORAX IS HERE SO THAT TWO IDENTICAL NOTES WON'T PLAY AT THE SAME TIME; #P hidden comment 551 579 100 9109513 I COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO MAKE A KNOB SELECT THE OUTPUT ... ANY IDEA ?; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 981 558 100 9109513 THANKS TO THOSE WHO HELP !!! :); #P hidden connect 4 1 14 0; #P hidden connect 8 1 15 0; #P hidden connect 7 1 16 0; #P hidden connect 11 0 17 0; #P hidden connect 12 0 11 0; #P hidden fasten 4 0 11 1 185 155 228 155; #P hidden fasten 8 0 11 2 236 155 242 155; #P hidden fasten 7 0 11 3 287 154 256 154; #P hidden connect 33 0 12 0; #P hidden fasten 6 0 11 4 339 154 270 154; #P hidden connect 12 0 37 0; #P hidden fasten 4 1 37 1 204 155 299 155; #P hidden fasten 8 1 37 2 255 155 313 155; #P hidden fasten 7 1 37 3 306 154 327 154; #P hidden fasten 6 1 37 4 358 154 341 154; #P hidden connect 19 0 38 0; #P hidden fasten 5 1 38 1 416 155 441 155; #P hidden fasten 9 1 38 2 467 155 455 155; #P hidden fasten 10 1 38 3 518 155 469 155; #P hidden fasten 13 1 38 4 569 155 483 155; #P hidden connect 19 0 18 0; #P hidden connect 34 0 19 0; #P hidden fasten 5 0 18 1 397 155 512 155; #P hidden fasten 9 0 18 2 448 155 526 155; #P hidden fasten 10 0 18 3 499 155 540 155; #P hidden connect 11 0 39 0; #P hidden connect 25 0 39 0; #P hidden connect 31 0 39 0; #P hidden connect 18 0 39 0; #P hidden fasten 13 0 18 4 550 155 554 155; #P hidden connect 39 3 20 0; #P hidden connect 40 0 39 1; #P hidden connect 41 0 39 1; #P hidden connect 37 0 39 1; #P hidden connect 38 0 39 1; #P hidden connect 39 4 20 1; #P hidden connect 26 0 25 0; #P hidden fasten 21 0 25 1 605 155 656 155; #P hidden fasten 22 0 25 2 658 155 670 155; #P hidden fasten 23 0 25 3 715 155 684 155; #P hidden fasten 24 0 25 4 772 155 698 155; #P hidden connect 35 0 26 0; #P hidden connect 26 0 40 0; #P hidden fasten 21 1 40 1 624 155 728 155; #P hidden fasten 22 1 40 2 680 155 742 155; #P hidden fasten 23 1 40 3 737 155 756 155; #P hidden fasten 24 1 40 4 794 155 770 155; #P hidden connect 32 0 31 0; #P hidden fasten 27 0 31 1 833 155 889 155; #P hidden fasten 28 0 31 2 894 155 903 155; #P hidden fasten 29 0 31 3 952 155 917 155; #P hidden connect 36 0 32 0; #P hidden fasten 30 0 31 4 1012 155 931 155; #P hidden connect 32 0 41 0; #P hidden fasten 27 1 41 1 855 155 968 155; #P hidden fasten 28 1 41 2 916 155 982 155; #P hidden fasten 29 1 41 3 974 155 996 155; #P hidden fasten 30 1 41 4 1034 155 1010 155; #P pop; From pierre.crepon at free.fr Sat Sep 1 11:50:15 2007 From: pierre.crepon at free.fr (pcrepon) Date: Sat Sep 1 11:50:19 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: optimisizing a midi patch In-Reply-To: <1bdef.46d99939@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdf9.46d9a657@www.cycling74.com> I should also add that I am looking for a way to record what I do with the knobs, that is to say record the CC that's coming in. I managed to do it with the seq object but I am missing something and when I send what comes out of the send object to the input of the knobs they all move at the same time ... I looked into midiparse and other midi objects with no results. Thanks again. Pierre From electrobass at gmx.net Sat Sep 1 11:58:19 2007 From: electrobass at gmx.net (micha) Date: Sat Sep 1 11:58:28 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: keyboard tracking / ampscale In-Reply-To: <1bdf7.46d9a355@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1bdfc.46d9a83b@www.cycling74.com> well thats obvious, but i thought there would be a more "official" formula that describes the curve and takes some psychoacoustics into account...just trying and shaping it until it sounds good is of course another approach. From chatnoir at sympatico.ca Sat Sep 1 13:35:39 2007 From: chatnoir at sympatico.ca (chatnoir) Date: Sat Sep 1 13:35:44 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] MaxMSP slowly disappears !!! Message-ID: <1be00.46d9bf09@www.cycling74.com> Hi, Max/MSP started to behave really strangely on my computer. Some of the functions disappeared: inspectors (cmd-i) are no longer available, in the object menu, it misses colors, file preferences, performance options ant text selection. The more I work with MAX, the more it becomes all mixed up! I first worked with the 4.6.3 version, then installed the 4.5.7 version (educational authorized version). They both worked fine at the beginning and then some functions were no longer available (if I click on DSP status, the window no longer opens...). But all the patche's functions are well installed in the editors folder. I work on a PowerBook G4, MAC OS X (10.4.7). I already reinstalled Max/MSP many times... I really don't know what to do!!! I copy here all the messages I can read in the Max window when I open my patches: loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 coll: no file sequence_spat ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 loop points in file: 0 0 susloop 0 ? error: no inspector for pictslider coll: finished, 7 lines Thank you, Chatnoir -- Chatnoir From bthrew at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 13:45:27 2007 From: bthrew at gmail.com (barry threw) Date: Sat Sep 1 13:45:36 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bdf6.46d9a340@www.cycling74.com> References: <1bdf6.46d9a340@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Man, did anyone check out the rest of this guys stuff? Great work. b On Sep 1, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote: > > oh heheh this may be why nobody else responded and why I had a > skewed vision of what this actually is: > > "Caution: Old Macs may produce noise." > > At any rate if you read that description now taht IM listening on > an intel its totally different and this is a complex model that > your not going to get through fm or anything else for that matter, > its a complex algorythm made from scratch which does exactly what > it says. > > This name is an invention, but this is how it works. There are n > poles (3-64), which are attracted by force to their neighboor. By > increasing the number of poles, the computed sound gets more > complex with a lot of harmonics, where the waveform oscillate > itself by the pole forces. If you be patient and try out some > combination you can find some very nice atmospheric sounds. The > amplitude between the poles is cubic interpolated. > Note: Changing the poles count affects crack sounds, since the > waveform resets without respect to any zero crossings. Tipp: You > can click the slider bar to change the poles count without sliding. > Update: Added rate parameter, which affects the speed of each pole. > > -- > -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp Barry Threw Media Art and Technology San Francisco, CA Work: 857-544-3967 Email: bthrew@gmail.com IM: captogreadmore (AIM) http:/www.barrythrew.com From thambo.godwin at googlemail.com Sat Sep 1 14:01:26 2007 From: thambo.godwin at googlemail.com (robin foster) Date: Sat Sep 1 14:01:41 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: keyboard tracking / ampscale In-Reply-To: <1bdfc.46d9a83b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be02.46d9c516@www.cycling74.com> maybe i dont understand your problem....i was thinking you wanted volume to decrease as the pitch of the key played increased? in which case, what psychoacoustics are you referring to? From rougiie at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 14:26:10 2007 From: rougiie at gmail.com (steffensen) Date: Sat Sep 1 14:26:33 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1bd98.46d81e7b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be03.46d9cae1@www.cycling74.com> Ah typical. Such a great sound, really had my hopes up that ive found some great recepie for a drone machine, finaly. Oh well. :) Some great stuff on his site for sure! From awetterberg at post.cybercity.dk Sat Sep 1 14:30:14 2007 From: awetterberg at post.cybercity.dk (Andreas Wetterberg) Date: Sat Sep 1 14:30:25 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] keyboard tracking / ampscale In-Reply-To: <1bde1.46d971f4@www.cycling74.com> References: <1bde1.46d971f4@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <46D9CBD6.8070200@post.cybercity.dk> micha skrev: > hi there! > > does anyone have a formula for keyboard tracking, i.e. reducing the loudness with a increasing pitch? there is some function in super collider which is called ampscale which does exactly that, but i couldn't find any formula in the sources... Hi, if you're looking to build something advanced, have a look into Equal Loudness Contours, which would be the psycho-acoustic treatment of this. You should be able to suss the workings from this page, complete with loudness<->hz conversion graph: http://www.sfu.ca/sonic-studio/handbook/Equal_Loudness_Contours.html Hope this helps, Andreas. From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 15:54:40 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Sat Sep 1 15:54:44 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: A little pole/fm challenge for you. In-Reply-To: <1be03.46d9cae1@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be06.46d9df9f@www.cycling74.com> go all the way through, it gets soooo good, mario brothers, mode7, tb303, dude is an ultra flash genius, I didn't even know you could do any of thsi with actionscript! -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From bunkerstudio at yahoo.it Sat Sep 1 16:01:31 2007 From: bunkerstudio at yahoo.it (Davide) Date: Sat Sep 1 16:01:34 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: dschihad2.0 with Macbook? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1be07.46d9e13a@www.cycling74.com> Thank you for your patience. In max 4.6 udpsend/udpreceive object it should be already there. Anyway I download here netsend & netreceive objects: http://www.akustische-kunst.org/maxmsp/index.html but I've still the error. About vst I'm looking for the solution at the archive . thanks again. d. From trans02 at parafora.co.uk Sat Sep 1 16:07:57 2007 From: trans02 at parafora.co.uk (Jaime) Date: Sat Sep 1 16:08:00 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. Message-ID: <1be08.46d9e2ba@www.cycling74.com> Hello all, I'm self teaching myself Max/Msp at the mo and I've managed to create a simple looper which I've compiled into an app successfully. Now, I'm trying to compile the same patch into VST form but I'm having problems as I can't seem to include Thomas Grill's xgroove~ external object into my build. I've tried including the file during the compiling stage, but as soon as I load my vst into ableton live's enviroment to test, I get an error message saying 'Error: xgroove~ no such object' I have a current Universal version of Thomas Grill's Xsample external installed on my Macbook and it works fine when running as a Max/Msp patch or stand alone application. I would be extremely grateful if somebody could help me by providing any helpful advice and tips. ps. I have searched the archives here but I couldn't seem to find any helpful information regarding this situation. Jaime. From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 16:21:28 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Sat Sep 1 16:21:32 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Completed Feedback Loop patch In-Reply-To: <4fe55b6e0708310726j66fdd00cs69428da1edf566ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1be09.46d9e5e8@www.cycling74.com> pretty sweet, few things I would change Its humongous, Id scale it down to fit on an average monitor panning would be nice so you can get some stereo or surround volume seems to be blasting unless I turn it to the bottom most pixel sound quality is a bit gritty, but thats probably because of the distortion/lofi but yeah man I think this is a bad ass noise generator, love to see the next version if you make one -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From Dynamicell at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 16:24:40 2007 From: Dynamicell at hotmail.com (Nicholas C. Raftis III) Date: Sat Sep 1 16:24:51 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Just some advice... an easyer way to make this stuff. In-Reply-To: <46D67060.3040804@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1be0a.46d9e6a7@www.cycling74.com> what about bucket or spray? -- -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- From elt at altern.org Sat Sep 1 16:46:31 2007 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Sat Sep 1 16:46:36 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] MaxMSP slowly disappears !!! In-Reply-To: <1be00.46d9bf09@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be00.46d9bf09@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <643AE024-FBB7-47BF-93BA-215B6E666FEA@altern.org> this is generated by sfplay~ on version 4.5.7 > > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > From elt at altern.org Sat Sep 1 16:51:35 2007 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Sat Sep 1 16:51:40 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: dschihad2.0 with Macbook? In-Reply-To: <1be07.46d9e13a@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be07.46d9e13a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <75585BA0-22C5-4D28-A186-B2F2E6491B12@altern.org> about vst it's only because you have to "plug" a vst plugin. this is the message by default > > About vst I'm looking for the solution at the archive . From bunkerstudio at yahoo.it Sat Sep 1 17:22:31 2007 From: bunkerstudio at yahoo.it (Davide) Date: Sat Sep 1 17:22:35 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: dschihad2.0 with Macbook? In-Reply-To: <75585BA0-22C5-4D28-A186-B2F2E6491B12@altern.org> Message-ID: <1be0d.46d9f437@www.cycling74.com> Hello fp, sorry my inexperience but It's not an error? thanks for your help. From ico at vt.edu Sat Sep 1 17:55:26 2007 From: ico at vt.edu (Ivica Ico Bukvic) Date: Sat Sep 1 17:55:32 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. In-Reply-To: <1be08.46d9e2ba@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be08.46d9e2ba@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <001301c7ecf3$923e6840$0302a8c0@icobadassmbp> > I have a current Universal version of Thomas Grill's Xsample external > installed on my Macbook and it works fine when running as a Max/Msp patch > or stand alone application. This might be a shot in the dark but do you happen to know if this external is statically linked or it requires flext lib to work (a.k.a. dynamically linked)? If latter is the case, you may have to also include the flext into the build. Best wishes, Ico From rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 18:43:42 2007 From: rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com (Rodrigo Constanzo) Date: Sat Sep 1 18:43:47 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Completed Feedback Loop patch In-Reply-To: <1be09.46d9e5e8@www.cycling74.com> References: <4fe55b6e0708310726j66fdd00cs69428da1edf566ab@mail.gmail.com> <1be09.46d9e5e8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4fe55b6e0709011743j630c0117y8cdab9b6638f0a43@mail.gmail.com> the size thing was a consideration, but i didnt initially build it for other people to use thats why things arent too well labeled eitehr, since i know what they are i may incorporate panning as well, probably 2left 2right, with a 'mono' switch for simplicities sake and the volume thing is bothersome, i was looking up how to do a logarithmic scaling of values for the master volume, but i figure its that loud because the signal hitting the master *~ object is super high, so the different between 0.01 and 0.0 is still big the grittiness is intentional, making the delay analogesque, using an aliasy pitchshift, and degrade etc.. thanks for the suggestions, ill probably develop it a bit more, and create a more general purpose one thats suited to people other than me that and i want to max the chaos out a little more (it sounded even better when i let the overdrive~ going into higher negative numbers (-1 to -5), but it would crash after using it for a long time, so i gotta find the 'sweet spot' of chaos before max shuts down on me On 9/1/07, Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote: > > pretty sweet, few things I would change > Its humongous, Id scale it down to fit on an average monitor > panning would be nice so you can get some stereo or surround > volume seems to be blasting unless I turn it to the bottom most pixel > sound quality is a bit gritty, but thats probably because of the distortion/lofi > > but yeah man I think this is a bad ass noise generator, > > love to see the next version if you make one > -- > -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From trans02 at parafora.co.uk Sat Sep 1 19:27:48 2007 From: trans02 at parafora.co.uk (Jaime) Date: Sat Sep 1 19:27:53 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. In-Reply-To: <001301c7ecf3$923e6840$0302a8c0@icobadassmbp> Message-ID: <1be10.46da1194@www.cycling74.com> I'm not to sure as I'm a newbe at this.. if that was the case, how would i go about it? From laut_leise at gmx.net Sun Sep 2 02:00:00 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Sun Sep 2 02:00:03 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. In-Reply-To: <1be10.46da1194@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be16.46da6d80@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Fora wrote on Sat, 01 September 2007 19:27 ---------------------------------------------------- > I'm not to sure as I'm a newbe at this.. > > if that was the case, how would i go about it? > > ---------------------------------------------------- beside possible problems with certain binaries (including legal as well as technical problems) - you know that you can also just put externals and patches used in your pluggo into the pluggo runtime folder, dont you? -110 From trans02 at parafora.co.uk Sun Sep 2 03:30:18 2007 From: trans02 at parafora.co.uk (Jaime) Date: Sun Sep 2 03:31:02 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. In-Reply-To: <1be16.46da6d80@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be19.46da82a5@www.cycling74.com> > beside possible problems with certain binaries (including legal as well as technical problems) - you know that you can also just put externals and patches used in your pluggo into the pluggo runtime folder, dont you? > Ok, Where can I locate the pluggo runtime folder? From trans02 at parafora.co.uk Sun Sep 2 03:47:02 2007 From: trans02 at parafora.co.uk (Jaime) Date: Sun Sep 2 03:47:07 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. In-Reply-To: <1be19.46da82a5@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be1a.46da8696@www.cycling74.com> Sorry, I've actually already done that.. I've located the folder (/Library/Application Support/Cycling '74/Pluggo Support) and placed the files there but I still get those error messages.. argh!.. help! From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Sun Sep 2 03:51:34 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Sun Sep 2 03:52:07 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. In-Reply-To: <1be19.46da82a5@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be19.46da82a5@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <6FB9201F-10F7-457C-A86C-DAB78D876704@e--j.com> On 2 sept. 07, at 11:30, Jaime wrote: > Ok, Where can I locate the pluggo runtime folder? On mac it's in /Library/Application Support/C74 Plug-in Support if you have pluggo 3.6x or /Library/Application Support/Cycling '74/ Pluggo Support if you have an older version. ej From delpozo at mac.com Sun Sep 2 05:03:03 2007 From: delpozo at mac.com (Richardo del Pozo) Date: Sun Sep 2 05:03:06 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] compare 5 numbers Message-ID: <1be1f.46da9864@www.cycling74.com> Hi. I?m using five random objects to create 5 numbers every 30000 millisecond What i have difficulties figuring out is how to make a comparison if one number is equal to another number in the list. Or if several of the numbers is equal. Any idea? Thanks Richardo From jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org Sun Sep 2 05:39:50 2007 From: jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org (Jean-Fran=?ISO-8859-1?B?5w==?=ois Charles) Date: Sun Sep 2 05:38:42 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] compare 5 numbers In-Reply-To: <1be1f.46da9864@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Here is a quick and dirty thing that might give you ideas. But we would need to know what you want to do exactly: do you want to know the number of different values within the 5, or to do something when... what? Jean-Fran?ois. #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 256 335 157 196617 2 3 7; #P message 256 217 157 196617 2 7 7 3 2; #P newex 256 198 62 196617 prepend set; #P newex 256 316 62 196617 prepend set; #P newex 141 284 54 196617 thresh 20; #P newex 141 264 40 196617 change; #P newex 141 244 25 196617 iter; #P number 201 76 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 141 224 40 196617 zl sort; #P newex 141 167 55 196617 zl group 5; #P newex 141 145 58 196617 random 10; #P newex 141 122 40 196617 uzi 5; #P toggle 141 76 15 0; #P newex 141 99 70 196617 metro 30000; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P connect 4 0 11 0; #P connect 10 0 13 0; #P connect 11 0 12 0; #P connect 9 0 10 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P connect 7 0 8 0; #P connect 5 0 7 0; #P connect 6 0 0 1; #P connect 0 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P connect 1 0 0 0; #P window clipboard copycount 14; At 9/2/07 7:03 AM, you wrote?: > > Hi. > I?m using five random objects to create 5 numbers every 30000 millisecond > What i have difficulties figuring out is how to make a comparison if one > number is equal to another number in the list. Or if several of the numbers is > equal. > Any idea? > Thanks Richardo > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 05:46:04 2007 From: rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com (Rodrigo Constanzo) Date: Sun Sep 2 05:46:10 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] compare 5 numbers In-Reply-To: <1be1f.46da9864@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be1f.46da9864@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4fe55b6e0709020446r69fbed25q7afa512905d66f61@mail.gmail.com> if you want them all to be differnt you can use an urn object instead of random, and have it do it every 6seconds instead, and have them sent to something like pack with the last number sent going to the first inlet, to dump the list at the end of 30sec, with no duplicates max v2; #N vpatcher 475 143 1198 640; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 2; #P message 269 291 50 196617 16 25 36 69 63; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 269 264 62 196617 prepend set; #P newex 346 123 27 196617 + 1; #P newex 269 175 66 196617 gate 5; #N counter; #X flags 0 0; #P newobj 346 97 66 196617 counter; #P toggle 270 45 15 0; #P newex 270 69 64 196617 metro 6000; #P newex 269 237 75 196617 pack 0 0 0 0 0; #P newex 270 96 46 196617 urn 100; #P connect 6 0 5 0; #P connect 5 4 1 0; #P connect 1 0 7 0; #P connect 7 0 8 0; #P connect 3 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 0 0; #P connect 5 3 1 1; #P connect 5 2 1 2; #P connect 5 1 1 3; #P connect 0 0 5 1; #P connect 5 0 1 4; #P connect 2 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 6 0; #P pop; On 9/2/07, Richardo del Pozo wrote: > > Hi. > I?m using five random objects to create 5 numbers every 30000 millisecond > What i have difficulties figuring out is how to make a comparison if one number is equal to another number in the list. Or if several of the numbers is equal. > Any idea? > Thanks Richardo > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From delpozo at mac.com Sun Sep 2 06:01:47 2007 From: delpozo at mac.com (Richardo del Pozo) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:01:50 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: compare 5 numbers In-Reply-To: <1be1f.46da9864@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be23.46daa62a@www.cycling74.com> Thank you so much but I do not think i can use those methods. I want it to generate 5 different numbers every 30000 millisecond between 1- 40. these numbers will be unpacked and used to read images that has the corresponding number. Example. if 2, 3, 33, and 12 is chosen it will display pictures 2, 3 33 and 12. Therefor i cant have that to of the numbers are equal. Then it will fail to create five different images and displaying to, three, four or even five equal images. i do not know if i explain it very well...... Sorry Richardo From roger.carruthers at btinternet.com Sun Sep 2 06:04:30 2007 From: roger.carruthers at btinternet.com (Roger Carruthers) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:04:40 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] MaxMSP slowly disappears !!! In-Reply-To: <1be00.46d9bf09@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: "Max/MSP" could itself be the problem - do you, by any chance have a folder called that, or something similar in the file path ? OS X doesn't care for '/' s in file names; if you search the archives, you'll find this has cropped up a few times, and at least some of what you describe (File prefs, DSP Status etc. greyed out) are the result, Hth, Roger On 1/9/07 20:35, "chatnoir" wrote: > > Hi, > > Max/MSP started to behave really strangely on my computer. Some of > the functions > disappeared: inspectors (cmd-i) are no longer available, in the object > menu, it misses > colors, file preferences, performance options ant text selection. The more > I work with MAX, the more it becomes all mixed up! > > I first worked with the 4.6.3 version, then installed the 4.5.7 version > (educational authorized version). They both worked fine at the > beginning and then some > functions were no longer available (if I click on DSP status, the window no > longer opens...). But all the patche's functions are well installed in > the editors folder. > > I work on a PowerBook G4, MAC OS X (10.4.7). I already reinstalled Max/MSP > many times... I really don't know what to do!!! > > I copy here all the messages I can read in the Max window when I open my > patches: > > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > coll: no file sequence_spat > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultKnob.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > ? error: pictslider: can't find file SliderDefaultBkgnd.pct > ? error: pictslider: qtimage_open reports 1 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > loop points in file: 0 0 > susloop 0 > ? error: no inspector for pictslider > coll: finished, 7 lines > > Thank you, > > Chatnoir > -- > Chatnoir > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From nick at cassiel.com Sun Sep 2 06:20:53 2007 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:21:01 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: compare 5 numbers In-Reply-To: <1be23.46daa62a@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be23.46daa62a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <8F7D0E02-250C-4DCD-9839-C1F2C73E92DE@cassiel.com> On 2 Sep 2007, at 13:01, Richardo del Pozo wrote: > Thank you so much but I do not think i can use those methods. > I want it to generate 5 different numbers every 30000 millisecond > between 1- 40. How about something like: (i) generate number N1, between 1 and 40. (ii) generate number N2, between 1 and 39. If N2 >= N1, N2 = N2 + 1 (iii) generalise. (Left as an exercise: this step is more complex because you have more partitions.) -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.loadbang.net From rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 06:21:59 2007 From: rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com (Rodrigo Constanzo) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:22:05 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: compare 5 numbers In-Reply-To: <1be23.46daa62a@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be1f.46da9864@www.cycling74.com> <1be23.46daa62a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4fe55b6e0709020521m1ee85d5btb87613d14acffeb9@mail.gmail.com> the example i gave you would do just that, it would produce a list of 5 non-duplicate numbers every 30seconds youd have to modify it a bit to make the counter reset, and to clear the urn every so often On 9/2/07, Richardo del Pozo wrote: > > Thank you so much but I do not think i can use those methods. > I want it to generate 5 different numbers every 30000 millisecond between 1- 40. > these numbers will be unpacked and used to read images that has the corresponding number. > > Example. if 2, 3, 33, and 12 is chosen it will display pictures 2, 3 33 and 12. > Therefor i cant have that to of the numbers are equal. Then it will fail to create five different images and displaying to, three, four or even five equal images. > > i do not know if i explain it very well...... > Sorry > Richardo > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org Sun Sep 2 06:25:01 2007 From: jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org (Jean-Fran=?ISO-8859-1?B?5w==?=ois Charles) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:23:46 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: compare 5 numbers In-Reply-To: <1be23.46daa62a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Then use [urn 40] and reset before each time you bang it. Jean-Fran?ois. At 9/2/07 8:01 AM, you wrote?: > > Thank you so much but I do not think i can use those methods. > I want it to generate 5 different numbers every 30000 millisecond between 1- > 40. > these numbers will be unpacked and used to read images that has the > corresponding number. > > Example. if 2, 3, 33, and 12 is chosen it will display pictures 2, 3 33 and > 12. > Therefor i cant have that to of the numbers are equal. Then it will fail to > create five different images and displaying to, three, four or even five equal > images. > > i do not know if i explain it very well...... > Sorry > Richardo > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From delpozo at mac.com Sun Sep 2 06:28:10 2007 From: delpozo at mac.com (Richardo del Pozo) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:28:15 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: compare 5 numbers In-Reply-To: <1be1f.46da9864@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be28.46daac5a@www.cycling74.com> yes i figured it out after a bit, thank you very much guys. From elt at altern.org Sun Sep 2 06:36:33 2007 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:36:37 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: dschihad2.0 with Macbook? In-Reply-To: <1be0d.46d9f437@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be0d.46d9f437@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <70142145-F1A4-412B-B549-3BA1C5D41D60@altern.org> not at all. it's just informations about internal markers of loop, i suppose. i think there's a thread about this subject. try to search on the max forum. Le 2 sept. 07 ? 01:22, Davide a ?crit : > > > Hello fp, > sorry my inexperience but It's not an error? > > thanks for your help. > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From elt at altern.org Sun Sep 2 08:17:36 2007 From: elt at altern.org (fp) Date: Sun Sep 2 08:17:42 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: Re: dschihad2.0 with Macbook? In-Reply-To: <70142145-F1A4-412B-B549-3BA1C5D41D60@altern.org> Message-ID: <1be2c.46dac600@www.cycling74.com> oh sorry i mistook the thread. no this vst message isn't an error. just this object, when launched, is waiing for a vst plugin. if there's no plugin, this message appears by default. when you'll plug a new plgin, you'll see other messages telling how many parameters has your plugin. -- ------------------------ - www.pan-etc.net - ------------------------ From mynameischarles at hotmail.com Sun Sep 2 09:28:32 2007 From: mynameischarles at hotmail.com (Charles Cavey) Date: Sun Sep 2 09:28:35 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Please help me! Message-ID: <1be2d.46dad69e@www.cycling74.com> I need to create a patch that plays a chord when you play a note on either the qwerty or the MIDI keyboard; I've been given this help but this is a new language to me so I hope someone can point me in the right direction..... For the first of these you're going to need to identify the pitch value of the played note and then calculate the intervals between this and the other notes in the chord. So, if your played note has a pitch value of 60 and you want to play back a major chord, the next note is the third of the scale, which is four semitones above the first (the 'root'), so the value you want is 64. So, connect the first note value to a + 4 object and route the result back into the playback cycle. Similarly, the third note of the chord is seven semitones above the first, so what do you do? Of course, if you include number boxes going into the left inlets of the + objects you can vary the values on the fly. Or use preset objects to do the same with different values. See what you can come up with. From electrobass at gmx.net Sun Sep 2 09:42:41 2007 From: electrobass at gmx.net (micha) Date: Sun Sep 2 09:42:45 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: keyboard tracking / ampscale In-Reply-To: <46D9CBD6.8070200@post.cybercity.dk> Message-ID: <1be2e.46dad9f1@www.cycling74.com> thanks, thats a precious hint into the right direction! From jlage at mac.com Sun Sep 2 11:25:03 2007 From: jlage at mac.com (Julian Lage) Date: Sun Sep 2 11:25:06 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Beginner Question About Code Message-ID: <1be36.46daf1ee@www.cycling74.com> Hello All, I have been searching through these forums to further my understanding of Max/MSP. I've noticed that a lot of responses include lines of code, each of which is prefaced by #P. What does this mean? Sorry for such a basic question, thank you in advance for your help! Best, Julian From jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org Sun Sep 2 11:33:08 2007 From: jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org (Jean-Fran=?ISO-8859-1?B?5w==?=ois Charles) Date: Sun Sep 2 11:31:56 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Please help me! In-Reply-To: <1be2d.46dad69e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Well, if you want to do anything in Max, you will need to begin where everybody begins: tutorials (pdf and patches.) If you have questions about them, just ask here. You will then see that what you want to do is fairly simple. Jean-Fran?ois. At 9/2/07 11:28 AM, you wrote?: > > I need to create a patch that plays a chord when you play a note on either the > qwerty or the MIDI keyboard; I've been given this help but this is a new > language to me so I hope someone can point me in the right direction..... > For the first of these you're going to need to identify the pitch value of the > played note and then calculate the intervals between this and the other notes > in the chord. So, if your played note has a pitch value of 60 and you want to > play back a major chord, the next note is the third of the scale, which is > four semitones above the first (the 'root'), so the value you want is 64. So, > connect the first note value to a + 4 object and route the result back into > the playback cycle. Similarly, the third note of the chord is seven semitones > above the first, so what do you do? > > Of course, if you include number boxes going into the left inlets of the + > objects you can vary the values on the fly. Or use preset objects to do the > same with different values. See what you can come up with. > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From keithmanlove at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 11:35:50 2007 From: keithmanlove at gmail.com (keith manlove) Date: Sun Sep 2 11:35:55 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Beginner Question About Code In-Reply-To: <1be36.46daf1ee@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be36.46daf1ee@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <64ab801a0709021035u2dddad64mcb4c7b3a17e47828@mail.gmail.com> Max can be represented as text as well. Instead of uploading a file, people paste this text (which can be retrieved by opening a patch as text-under "file"), and reduces file size. If you paste this text into an empty patcher, it will appear as the necessary objects and connections in the patcher. There's a little more to it than that, but not much. Sometimes you need to leave off the top and bottom of the patch text, but some people do it for you. Ignore this stop at the top: max v2; #N vpatcher 17 316 1423 910; and this at the bottom: #P pop; Thanks, Keith On 9/2/07, Julian Lage wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have been searching through these forums to further my understanding of Max/MSP. I've noticed that a lot of responses include lines of code, each of which is prefaced by #P. What does this mean? Sorry for such a basic question, thank you in advance for your help! > > Best, > Julian > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From jennek.geels at xs4all.nl Sun Sep 2 12:45:45 2007 From: jennek.geels at xs4all.nl (jennek geels) Date: Sun Sep 2 12:45:53 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Beginner Question About Code In-Reply-To: <1be36.46daf1ee@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be36.46daf1ee@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <320815D0-7FBB-4330-9E7D-E3F6A16616DA@xs4all.nl> On 2-sep-2007, at 19:25, Julian Lage wrote: > I have been searching through these forums to further my > understanding of Max/MSP. I've noticed that a lot of responses > include lines of code, each of which is prefaced by #P. What does > this mean? Sorry for such a basic question, thank you in advance > for your help! http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/FAQs/BeginnersFAQ HtH -jennek From trans02 at parafora.co.uk Sun Sep 2 13:28:40 2007 From: trans02 at parafora.co.uk (Jaime) Date: Sun Sep 2 13:28:46 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: RE: Question regarding VST Pluggo Building. In-Reply-To: <6FB9201F-10F7-457C-A86C-DAB78D876704@e--j.com> Message-ID: <1be3b.46db0ee8@www.cycling74.com> I've located the folder (/Library/Application Support/Cycling '74/Pluggo Support) and placed the files there but I still get those error messages.. From smill at csf.edu Sun Sep 2 13:32:32 2007 From: smill at csf.edu (Steven Miller) Date: Sun Sep 2 13:32:49 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Please help me! In-Reply-To: <1be2d.46dad69e@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be2d.46dad69e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <0ECA0F1E-D551-4120-96FF-A97E2F728D75@csf.edu> This 'help' reads more like 'an assignment' to me. If you're in a MaxMSP class this would be a reasonable first assignment, assuming you were working on the tutorials. That's where you should start. Things like this get covered pretty early on in the tutorials. BTW - if you are in a class, getting 'help' for your assignments from the list is generally discouraged, and you should always identify yourself as such... Getting assistance on projects when you're truly stuck on a major project is one thing, someone doing your assignment for you is another... Either way, have fun with the tutorials, they're very enlightening. On Sep 2, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Charles Cavey wrote: > > I need to create a patch that plays a chord when you play a note on > either the qwerty or the MIDI keyboard; I've been given this help > but this is a new language to me so I hope someone can point me in > the right direction..... > For the first of these you're going to need to identify the pitch > value of the played note and then calculate the intervals between > this and the other notes in the chord. So, if your played note has > a pitch value of 60 and you want to play back a major chord, the > next note is the third of the scale, which is four semitones above > the first (the 'root'), so the value you want is 64. So, connect > the first note value to a + 4 object and route the result back into > the playback cycle. Similarly, the third note of the chord is seven > semitones above the first, so what do you do? > > Of course, if you include number boxes going into the left inlets > of the + objects you can vary the values on the fly. Or use preset > objects to do the same with different values. See what you can come > up with. ---- Steven M. Miller Professor, Contemporary Music Program College of Santa Fe Home SFIFEM Atrium Sound Space OVOS CMP From rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 13:35:45 2007 From: rodrigo.constanzo at gmail.com (rodrigo.constanzo) Date: Sun Sep 2 13:35:48 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: <1bde2.46d97235@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be3d.46db1091@www.cycling74.com> do say how the book is when you get it. it looks like a very interesting topic but the description makes it seems like this guy's thesis, which generally dont make for good reads. its also only 88pages, and expensive.. From george.locke.maxmsp at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 14:08:00 2007 From: george.locke.maxmsp at gmail.com (George Locke) Date: Sun Sep 2 14:08:21 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: can't build plugin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is still a problem for me, and a big problem at that! need help! On 7/24/07, George Locke wrote: > > Hi all, > > I downloaded the pluggo runtime package (3.5.4 for use with max 4.5.7 on > windows xp sp2), and going though the first tutorial, i hit a snag when i > tried to build the 'tutorial p1.pat' as a plugin. I click on 'build > collective / application / plugin', and then hit the build button. (the > text box in the collective editor window says "open thispatcher"). The > response to hitting the build is that a message appears in the bottom of the > collective editor, "Starting Build for Tutoral P1.pat-build...". > > No file appears in the save-to directory. 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URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20070902/9c52c03c/attachment.htm From mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu Sun Sep 2 14:31:15 2007 From: mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu (mzed) Date: Sun Sep 2 14:31:18 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: <1bde2.46d97235@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be41.46db1d93@www.cycling74.com> Quote: pixelmechanic wrote on Sat, 01 September 2007 07:07 ---------------------------------------------------- > As an alternative, this might be worth a look... > > "Digital Interactive Installations: Programming Interactive Installations Using the Software Package Max/MSP/Jitter" by Frank Blum > > You can find it at Amazon... > > Don't know how good it is yet... my copy is in the post. > > Cheers > > Jules ---------------------------------------------------- I was pretty disappointed with this book. Yes, it's a thesis, it's 88 pages and very expensive. mz -- || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ || http://www.mikezed.com/ From jlage at mac.com Sun Sep 2 17:11:17 2007 From: jlage at mac.com (Julian Lage) Date: Sun Sep 2 17:11:21 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: amplitude envelopes using a pitch tracker In-Reply-To: <20070203143614.jo1og8l4gs448wwo@web.mail.umich.edu> Message-ID: <1be44.46db4314@www.cycling74.com> I am very new to Max/MSP but have been interested in using a pitch tracker as well. I know this is VERY basic, but i had a question regarding the patches that have been posted, when I open the patch in Max/MSP and there is an inlet and an outlet at either end of the patch, how do I go about sending my guitar signal/line in to the patch to make a sound? I tried using the patches from this thread in a sub patch but i think i'm just a little confused about this. Thank you all for your help in advance! Best, Julian From chubbfire2002 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 20:13:25 2007 From: chubbfire2002 at yahoo.com (Chubb) Date: Sun Sep 2 20:13:29 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: amplitude envelopes using a pitch tracker In-Reply-To: <1be44.46db4314@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <740952.32360.qm@web53305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> personally i would use adc~ for input and output using a signal level fader to dac~ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From hmix at gmx.de Mon Sep 3 00:46:29 2007 From: hmix at gmx.de (hubert machnik) Date: Mon Sep 3 00:46:33 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] the "modbus tcp protocol" and max? Message-ID: <1be47.46dbadc4@www.cycling74.com> Is there somebody who knows more about this ? From sinan at sonic-disorder.com Mon Sep 3 01:23:27 2007 From: sinan at sonic-disorder.com (Sinan Bokesoy) Date: Mon Sep 3 01:23:34 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] cosmosv1 available on sonic-disorder.com In-Reply-To: <591888.3878.qm@web82805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <591888.3878.qm@web82805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1B0C2D71-87DE-4BF0-8050-0E8C6F4405BB@sonic-disorder.com> I have started to distribute the Cosmos application (for OSX). You can find it on www.sonic-disorder.com best Sinan Bokesoy From pancakepalace at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 02:08:37 2007 From: pancakepalace at hotmail.com (Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque) Date: Mon Sep 3 02:08:41 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] error handling/reporting Message-ID: <1be4b.46dbc104@www.cycling74.com> Hi all, I'm trying to get an error message that prints in the max window to come out of an object so I can use this information in my patch. The error is buffer~ out of memory. I read in the max/msp database that an object called 'error' from cycling does just this. Problem is you need to pay for it. My question: Is there a free object out there to perform this function? Thanks From aelioutina at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 02:31:11 2007 From: aelioutina at yahoo.com (anya elioutina) Date: Mon Sep 3 02:31:15 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] wireless foot pedalfor MAX In-Reply-To: <1B0C2D71-87DE-4BF0-8050-0E8C6F4405BB@sonic-disorder.com> Message-ID: <596741.29484.qm@web53605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Can someone tell me if there is a Inftrared or bluetooth food pedal with at least 4 pedals tthat will work with MAX? thank you Anya ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From pancakepalace at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 02:31:36 2007 From: pancakepalace at hotmail.com (Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque) Date: Mon Sep 3 02:31:41 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] script connect/disconnect error Message-ID: <1be4d.46dbc667@www.cycling74.com> Hi all, I am having a problem with a patch in which I do the following things. 1. Use a script command to create a buffer~ object, info~ and a pack object. 2. Use a script command to connect them all. 3. Load the buffer~ with a sound and get the infortions with the info~ object and send them in a coll. 4. Destroy the info~ and pack object. The only thing left is the buffer~ object. My patch works fine when used with no overdrive, but in overdrive mode I get disconnect errors. It is as if the disconnect messages come before the object is even created. I am wondering if things happen too fast in overdrive and the scheduler gets messed up at the point where the buffer~ object is being loaded. Any ideas.??? From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Mon Sep 3 02:32:28 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Mon Sep 3 02:32:59 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] error handling/reporting In-Reply-To: <1be4b.46dbc104@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be4b.46dbc104@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <51EEC386-24B9-4D6B-A47B-BBED789095CC@e--j.com> On 3 sept. 07, at 10:08, Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque wrote: > I'm trying to get an error message that prints in the max window to > come out of an object so I can use this information in my patch. > > The error is buffer~ out of memory. > > I read in the max/msp database that an object called 'error' from > cycling does just this. Problem is you need to pay for it. > > My question: > > Is there a free object out there to perform this function? If you own Max, you already paid for it ;-) Then you can use it for free? ej From pancakepalace at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 02:39:24 2007 From: pancakepalace at hotmail.com (Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque) Date: Mon Sep 3 02:39:29 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: error handling/reporting In-Reply-To: <51EEC386-24B9-4D6B-A47B-BBED789095CC@e--j.com> Message-ID: <1be4f.46dbc83b@www.cycling74.com> Of course... I do own max/msp, but it is an old version for Mac OS9. Version 4.0 I think. I don't that object exists in my version. I'm a musician.. Don't have enough money at the moment to get new fancy software for mac OSX. Anything free out there? From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Mon Sep 3 02:51:50 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Mon Sep 3 02:52:22 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: error handling/reporting In-Reply-To: <1be4f.46dbc83b@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be4f.46dbc83b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 3 sept. 07, at 10:39, Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque wrote: > Of course... > > I do own max/msp, but it is an old version for Mac OS9. Version 4.0 > I think. > > I don't that object exists in my version. > > I'm a musician.. Don't have enough money at the moment to get new > fancy software for mac OSX. > > Anything free out there? Strange, I thought it was there in 4.0? Anyway, if you're on OS 9, It's easier to know when you're out of memory because it depends on the memory you allocated to Max in the Finder (Get Info? -> Memory or something like that). You may be able to figure out a way to know that before loading the file into a buffer: open the file with sfinfo~ and calculate the size of the file depending on the length / bit depth / sample rate. HTH, ej From jack at peacockvisualarts.co.uk Mon Sep 3 05:56:50 2007 From: jack at peacockvisualarts.co.uk (jack Keenan) Date: Mon Sep 3 05:57:12 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] max broken, please help Message-ID: <1be51.46dbf67f@www.cycling74.com> Hi there, Max seems to have completely broken on my machine, every time I go to open it it just gives one bounce and then crashes, I updated to the latest quicktime yesterday could this have broken it?? If so how do I get it working again? The error I get in the console is Sep 3 12:47:55 jack-keenans-computer crashdump[315]: crash report written to: /Users/jackkeenan/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/MaxMSP.crash.log I can still open the max runtime but no joy with the actual program. Any help would really be appreciated Cheers Jack From jack at peacockvisualarts.co.uk Mon Sep 3 06:18:26 2007 From: jack at peacockvisualarts.co.uk (jack Keenan) Date: Mon Sep 3 06:18:29 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: max broken, please help In-Reply-To: <1be51.46dbf67f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be52.46dbfb92@www.cycling74.com> Oh and I probably should have said I'm running ....... osx 10.4.1 mackbook pro max 4.6.2 quicktime 7.2 Cheers Jack From jack at peacockvisualarts.co.uk Mon Sep 3 06:36:12 2007 From: jack at peacockvisualarts.co.uk (jack Keenan) Date: Mon Sep 3 06:36:16 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: max broken, please help In-Reply-To: <1be51.46dbf67f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be53.46dbffbc@www.cycling74.com> sorted, installed the latest java update and everythings working again..Cheers Jack From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Mon Sep 3 07:37:02 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Mon Sep 3 07:37:32 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: max broken, please help In-Reply-To: <1be53.46dbffbc@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be53.46dbffbc@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <16B94DD7-E965-4F56-9246-C238CAAC043D@e--j.com> On 3 sept. 07, at 14:36, jack Keenan wrote: > sorted, installed the latest java update and everythings working > again..Cheers I would recommend that you install 4.6.3 which includes a new version of PACE, which shouldn't cause any problem with the last Apple updates that you may have read on the forum. ej From pdelges at radiantslab.com Mon Sep 3 08:23:41 2007 From: pdelges at radiantslab.com (Patrick Delges) Date: Mon Sep 3 08:23:48 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] script connect/disconnect error In-Reply-To: <1be4d.46dbc667@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be4d.46dbc667@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <2ad7d3b04f2ab04159bbec4bae951009@radiantslab.com> On 3 sept. 07, at 10:31, Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque wrote: > Any ideas.??? - using [sfinfo~]?instead of [info~] - using a [deferlow]?somewhere in your scripted patch - wouldn't one single [info~] be enough, the "set" message may be usefull in this case - ... p _____________________________ Patrick Delges Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl http://users.skynet.be/crfmw/max From joeyfratteli at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 08:47:49 2007 From: joeyfratteli at yahoo.com (Joe Fratteli) Date: Mon Sep 3 08:47:53 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: otudp old CFMexternals disable In-Reply-To: <200702210136.JAA17996@msr12.hinet.net> Message-ID: <1be56.46dc1e94@www.cycling74.com> Shing-kwei - I noticed from a previous mail that you had issues with OSC and your new Mac Intel - did you manage to get this sorted out and working? as I have problems too Joey From apalomba at austin.rr.com Mon Sep 3 09:15:42 2007 From: apalomba at austin.rr.com (Anthony Palomba) Date: Mon Sep 3 09:15:46 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: wireless foot pedalfor MAX In-Reply-To: <596741.29484.qm@web53605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1be57.46dc251d@www.cycling74.com> Well, I know m-audio makes a wireless MIDI interface. You could plug what ever device you wanted into it. As far as foot controllers go, I recommend the Berringer FCB1010. From davidestevens at mac.com Mon Sep 3 09:24:06 2007 From: davidestevens at mac.com (David Stevens) Date: Mon Sep 3 09:28:21 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] problems building collective Message-ID: hi all, I've been attempting to create either a collective or standalone of a large patch that I want to run on a second Mac for performing with another musician. The patch (which contains a lot of subpatches) works ok on my laptop. A collective created from the patch works ok if I load it in Max, but fails miserably if I load it into max Runtime. I get lots and lots of ... error: (subpatcher name): error -43 opening file error: (subpatcher name): no such object The only reference to this I can find in the docs tells me that there might be a problem with the source file. Hmm. It works ok Max itself, so what kind of a problem might that be?! I'm also getting: umenu (and ubumenu) doesn't understand "size" "offset" etc etc I can't find anything in the refs that points me in the right direction. Does anyone have any insight on what the problem(s) might be? Or what I might have to do to get this patch working on a 2nd machine? I've not done a lot of collective building, so I'm not very au fait with the kind of thing that can go wrong. thanks in advance for any advice! david From dlbond at mts.net Mon Sep 3 09:32:47 2007 From: dlbond at mts.net (Daryn Bond) Date: Mon Sep 3 09:32:50 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: <1be41.46db1d93@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be41.46db1d93@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: > > I was pretty disappointed with this book. Yes, it's a thesis, it's > 88 pages and very expensive. > This may be so, but it does contain some interesting approaches to interactive music - pitch and rhythm analysis, musical gestures, etc. and offers a framework for interactive computer music theory. There are some very interesting biases in the book, assumptions about how people listen to and enjoy music that are worth thinking about. Useful as a historical document, it reminds one how much can be done with MIDI alone, its limitations, etc. something it seems many have forgotten, or choose to ignore. Personally I borrowed the book from the library [yes, for FREE!] and read it without the CD examples. I searched around online for the examples and found nothing, so am pleased to see this thread. It would be brilliant if someone who had these on their computer could post some of them here so others may find them, and to rescue them from the System 7 graveyard. It is true the patches are shown in the book, but due to encapsulation and beautifully drawn segmented, overlapping, ambiguous patch cords, it would be immensely difficult to reconstruct the patches from the illustrations. Would a kind person who has the examples be able to post them? If not, could someone send them to me as well? They are definitely worth studying and should be part of the archive of this forum. DLBond alternate tuning system tune out. turn off. drop in. dlbond@mts.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20070903/5db7f828/attachment.htm From lists at lowfrequency.org Mon Sep 3 09:36:58 2007 From: lists at lowfrequency.org (evan.raskob [lists]) Date: Mon Sep 3 09:37:08 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] tenori-on launch in london In-Reply-To: <5F7978BA-B79A-4C06-9CF8-5D81F6EDD33B@cassiel.com> References: <1bd94.46d81246@www.cycling74.com> <9BF04674-2CBE-48FC-8DC6-03E12D9B8EA7@cassiel.com> <46D858C6.8020502@post.cybercity.dk> <5F7978BA-B79A-4C06-9CF8-5D81F6EDD33B@cassiel.com> Message-ID: <541BBD37-7ABE-49B4-9C07-8E00C02B31DB@lowfrequency.org> Hey, if all the Maxers in London are attending, we should wear some sort of arm-bands or something to identify each other... On Aug 31, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Nick Rothwell wrote: > > On 31 Aug 2007, at 19:07, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: > >> It has an SD card slot where you can load your own samples, it has >> many *built-in* sequencing modes AND it has a Motif sound board in >> it, as well as looking way cool with LEDs on both sides. > > Somewhat less cool is what looks like a pair of built-in speakers... > > It's also difficult to tell the build quality - it looks about the > same as the Mk. I KAOSS, which was slightly underwhelming. I guess > I should go along to the demo to see... > > > Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited > www.cassiel.com > www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom > www.loadbang.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From davidestevens at mac.com Mon Sep 3 10:20:43 2007 From: davidestevens at mac.com (David Stevens) Date: Mon Sep 3 10:24:58 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] tenori-on launch in london In-Reply-To: <541BBD37-7ABE-49B4-9C07-8E00C02B31DB@lowfrequency.org> References: <1bd94.46d81246@www.cycling74.com> <9BF04674-2CBE-48FC-8DC6-03E12D9B8EA7@cassiel.com> <46D858C6.8020502@post.cybercity.dk> <5F7978BA-B79A-4C06-9CF8-5D81F6EDD33B@cassiel.com> <541BBD37-7ABE-49B4-9C07-8E00C02B31DB@lowfrequency.org> Message-ID: <755CCE5F-C94E-455E-BA34-81FE6601914B@mac.com> Wow - maybe I could wear my [loadbang] t-shirt (though it is a bit worn out from using it as a nightshirt for years!) I'm probably going to go fairly early (around 6.30/7.00) David On 3 Sep 2007, at 16:36, evan.raskob [lists] wrote: > Hey, if all the Maxers in London are attending, we should wear some > sort of arm-bands or something to identify each other... > > > On Aug 31, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Nick Rothwell wrote: > >> >> On 31 Aug 2007, at 19:07, Andreas Wetterberg wrote: >> >>> It has an SD card slot where you can load your own samples, it >>> has many *built-in* sequencing modes AND it has a Motif sound >>> board in it, as well as looking way cool with LEDs on both sides. >> >> Somewhat less cool is what looks like a pair of built-in speakers... >> >> It's also difficult to tell the build quality - it looks about the >> same as the Mk. I KAOSS, which was slightly underwhelming. I guess >> I should go along to the demo to see... >> >> >> Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited >> www.cassiel.com >> www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom >> www.loadbang.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From roger.carruthers at btinternet.com Mon Sep 3 10:28:24 2007 From: roger.carruthers at btinternet.com (Roger Carruthers) Date: Mon Sep 3 10:28:33 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think this comment was directed at the other book mentioned, not Winkler?s (which has more than 88 pages for a start ;-). I have the Winkler CD stuff on my machine at work ? I can post it somewhere tomorrow, Cheers Roger On 3/9/07 16:32, "Daryn Bond" wrote: > >> >> I was pretty disappointed with this book.? Yes, it's a thesis, it's 88 pages >> and very expensive. >> > > This may be so, but it does contain some interesting approaches to interactive > music - pitch and rhythm analysis, musical gestures, etc. and offers a > framework for interactive computer music theory. There are some very > interesting biases in the book, assumptions about how people listen to and > enjoy music that are worth thinking about. Useful as a historical document, it > reminds one how much can be done with MIDI alone, its limitations, etc. > something it seems many have forgotten, or choose to ignore. > > Personally I borrowed the book from the library [yes, for FREE!] and read it > without the CD examples. I searched around online for the examples and found > nothing, so am pleased to see this thread. It would be brilliant if someone > who had these on their computer could post some of them here so others may > find them, and to rescue them from the System 7 graveyard. > > It is true the patches are shown in the book, but due to encapsulation and > beautifully drawn segmented, overlapping, ambiguous patch cords, it would be > immensely difficult to reconstruct the patches from the illustrations. > > Would a kind person who has the examples be able to post them? If not, could > someone send them to me as well? They are definitely worth studying and should > be part of the archive of this forum. > > DLBond > > alternate tuning system > tune out. turn off. drop in. > > dlbond@mts.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20070903/b8bba316/attachment.htm From davidestevens at mac.com Mon Sep 3 11:20:41 2007 From: davidestevens at mac.com (David Stevens) Date: Mon Sep 3 11:24:57 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] problems building collective In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've just tried this out with a much simpler patch, with fewer subpatches, and I get the same thing happening - none of the subpatchers will load properly when I try and run the collective inside Runtime. Not only that, but if I try and launch the collective by double clicking on its icon, Runtime crashes. This is on a MacBookPro, OSX 10.4.10. Latest max/msp/jitter download. (I haven't downloaded any incremental updates) Is anyone having any success creating and running Collectives? David On 3 Sep 2007, at 16:24, David Stevens wrote: > hi all, > > I've been attempting to create either a collective or standalone of > a large patch that I want to run on a second Mac for performing > with another musician. > > The patch (which contains a lot of subpatches) works ok on my > laptop. A collective created from the patch works ok if I load it > in Max, but fails miserably if I load it into max Runtime. > > I get lots and lots of ... > > error: (subpatcher name): error -43 opening file > error: (subpatcher name): no such object > > The only reference to this I can find in the docs tells me that > there might be a problem with the source file. Hmm. It works ok Max > itself, so what kind of a problem might that be?! > > I'm also getting: > > umenu (and ubumenu) doesn't understand "size" "offset" etc etc > > I can't find anything in the refs that points me in the right > direction. Does anyone have any insight on what the problem(s) > might be? Or what I might have to do to get this patch working on a > 2nd machine? > > I've not done a lot of collective building, so I'm not very au fait > with the kind of thing that can go wrong. > > thanks in advance for any advice! > > david > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From nick at cassiel.com Mon Sep 3 11:26:34 2007 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Mon Sep 3 11:26:48 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] tenori-on launch in london In-Reply-To: <755CCE5F-C94E-455E-BA34-81FE6601914B@mac.com> References: <1bd94.46d81246@www.cycling74.com> <9BF04674-2CBE-48FC-8DC6-03E12D9B8EA7@cassiel.com> <46D858C6.8020502@post.cybercity.dk> <5F7978BA-B79A-4C06-9CF8-5D81F6EDD33B@cassiel.com> <541BBD37-7ABE-49B4-9C07-8E00C02B31DB@lowfrequency.org> <755CCE5F-C94E-455E-BA34-81FE6601914B@mac.com> Message-ID: <37DD3561-0BEA-4399-BC26-EE22BA70888B@cassiel.com> On 3 Sep 2007, at 17:20, David Stevens wrote: > Wow - maybe I could wear my [loadbang] t-shirt (though it is a bit > worn out from using it as a nightshirt for years!) I could do the same, I guess... I won't bother with the Cycling '74 sweatband. -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.loadbang.net From ce_zone at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 12:58:36 2007 From: ce_zone at hotmail.com (Matthew Williams) Date: Mon Sep 3 12:58:39 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: <550d6b020708301305t4a391d8fl37f8cccf1bd143df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1be67.46dc595b@www.cycling74.com> i just bought the book as well.. i'm really liking it. it also came with the CD.. some of the objects used in the examples are no longer used but thats not to big of a problem.. some of the most interesting examples are of the RTC lib. very informative.. i From yb at imal.org Mon Sep 3 13:44:25 2007 From: yb at imal.org (Yves Bernard) Date: Mon Sep 3 13:44:34 2007 Subject: [SPAM] [maxmsp] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: <1be41.46db1d93@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be41.46db1d93@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: is it worth for teaching, for students? (to focus this thread, i am intererested in Frank Blum's book on digital interactive installations, which is indeed a thesis. see summary on https://www.diplom.de/db/diplomarbeiten10284.html ) >Quote: pixelmechanic wrote on Sat, 01 September 2007 07:07 >---------------------------------------------------- >> As an alternative, this might be worth a look... >> >> "Digital Interactive Installations: Programming Interactive >>Installations Using the Software Package Max/MSP/Jitter" by Frank >>Blum >> >> You can find it at Amazon... >> >> Don't know how good it is yet... my copy is in the post. >> >> Cheers >> >> Jules >---------------------------------------------------- > >I was pretty disappointed with this book. Yes, it's a thesis, it's >88 pages and very expensive. > >mz > > >-- >|| michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist >|| http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ >|| http://www.mikezed.com/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >maxmsp mailing list >maxmsp@cycling74.com >http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > -- Yves Bernard yb@imal.org asbl iMAL vzw 30-34 Quai des Charbonnages 1080 Bruxelles/Brussel tel 32 2 410 30 93 http://www.imal.org http://www.erg.be/blogs/artNumeur http://www.i-cult.be From nick at cassiel.com Mon Sep 3 13:44:40 2007 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Mon Sep 3 13:44:51 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] problems building collective In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3 Sep 2007, at 18:20, David Stevens wrote: > I've just tried this out with a much simpler patch, with fewer > subpatches, and I get the same thing happening - none of the > subpatchers will load properly when I try and run the collective > inside Runtime. No obvious problems here... (MaxMSP 4.6.3/Jitter 1.6.3, MacBook Pro, 10.4.10.) -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.loadbang.net From mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu Mon Sep 3 14:01:03 2007 From: mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu (mzed) Date: Mon Sep 3 14:01:08 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: [SPAM] Re: Todd Winkler's Book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1be69.46dc67ff@www.cycling74.com> Hi Yves- Yes, I was expressing my disappointment in the Blum book. It is an outline of how he did his thesis installation; not a general text on installations. Not worth it for anything, IMHO. See if you can borrow a copy. mz Quote: Yves Bernard wrote on Mon, 03 September 2007 12:44 ---------------------------------------------------- > is it worth for teaching, for students? > (to focus this thread, i am intererested in Frank Blum's book on > digital interactive installations, which is indeed a thesis. > see summary on https://www.diplom.de/db/diplomarbeiten10284.html ) > > > >Quote: pixelmechanic wrote on Sat, 01 September 2007 07:07 > >---------------------------------------------------- > >> As an alternative, this might be worth a look... > >> > >> "Digital Interactive Installations: Programming Interactive > >>Installations Using the Software Package Max/MSP/Jitter" by Frank > >>Blum > >> ... -- > > > >I was pretty disappointed with this book. ... -- || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ || http://www.mikezed.com/ From mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu Mon Sep 3 14:11:18 2007 From: mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu (mzed) Date: Mon Sep 3 14:11:22 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: otudp old CFMexternals disable In-Reply-To: <1be56.46dc1e94@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be6a.46dc6a65@www.cycling74.com> Quote: joeyfratteli@yahoo.com wrote on Mon, 03 September 2007 07:47 ---------------------------------------------------- > Shing-kwei - I noticed from a previous mail that you had issues with OSC and your new > Mac Intel - did you manage to get this sorted out and working? as I have problems too > > Joey ---------------------------------------------------- I'm interested in this, too. I've been running OSC on my Macbook Pro for a while now, with no problems. I have heard reports of issues, but they have involved hardware interfaces that I don't have access to. Any reports about udpsend/receive and OSC are welcome. mz -- || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ || http://www.mikezed.com/ From mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu Mon Sep 3 14:14:16 2007 From: mzed at cnmat.berkeley.edu (mzed) Date: Mon Sep 3 14:14:20 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: amplitude envelopes using a pitch tracker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1be6c.46dc6b17@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Chris Muir wrote on Sat, 03 February 2007 13:17 ---------------------------------------------------- > At 2:36 PM -0500 2/3/07, tflood@umich.edu wrote: > >I have been using Tristan Jehan's pitch~ object to track the input pitch from my bass guitar. Cycle~ then outputs a sine wave at the same pitch. The amplitude envelope is set using 'breakpoint' (see example), but I am wondering: is there any way to 'track' the amplitude envelope of the bass guitar directly? > > I'm on an Intel Mac, so I can't test pitch~, ... ---------------------------------------------------- Sure you can; UB version here: http://web.media.mit.edu/~tristan/maxmsp.html mz -- || michael f. zbyszynski -- molecular gastronimist || http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ || http://www.mikezed.com/ From zseldess at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 14:47:32 2007 From: zseldess at hotmail.com (Zachary Seldess) Date: Mon Sep 3 14:47:36 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] a modified pan4S abstraction, and questions Message-ID: <1be6d.46dc72e3@www.cycling74.com> Hello everyone, I've attached a modified version of the pan4S abstraction that allows you to change the minimum amplitude of the panned sound (that is, control how quiet the sound is on the opposite side from which it is located - a kind of ambient level of the sound), and the width of the sound as it pans. To do this I'm updating the waveform stored in the buffer~ and accessed via the cycle~s. The strange thing is that even though the waveform visually updates (i.e. after making a change, if I double-click on a cycle~ inside I see a new waveform), the sound output isn't affected until I turn the dac off and back on again. Does someone know why this is happening? I can't figure out any other way to get the new waveform to be recognized, again, even though buffer~ does show that the change has registered. Here's the abstraction, named pan4Sz: max v2; #N vpatcher 376 158 906 409; #P window setfont Geneva 9.; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 422 156 93 196617 minimum amplitude (0.- 1.); #N comlet minimum amplitude (0.- 1.); #P inlet 455 183 15 0; #P comment 360 129 95 196617 Width of waveform (0. - 1.); #N comlet width of sound (0. - 1.); #P inlet 380 183 15 0; #P window linecount 1; #N vpatcher 909 157 1169 516; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 127 220 27 131137545 t b f; #P newex 17 58 27 131137545 f; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 144 196 83 131137545 minimum amplitude (0. - 1.); #P window linecount 1; #P newex 34 28 69 131137545 loadmess 0.5; #N comlet minimum amplitude (0.- 1.); #P inlet 127 196 15 0; #P newex 17 80 29 131137545 t b f; #P inlet 17 28 15 0; #P newex 131 104 41 131137545 * 512.; #P newex 131 171 98 131137545 expr (512-$i1) + 1; #P window linecount 0; #P newex 131 127 98 131137545 expr (512-$i1) / 2; #P newex 17 316 113 131137545 buffer~ pan4.aif 11.61; #P newex 17 293 75 131137545 peek~ pan4.aif; #N counter 0 0 512; #X flags 0 0; #P newobj 17 171 108 131137545 counter 0 0 512; #P newex 17 128 107 131137545 t 513 b clear; #P newex 17 149 40 131137545 Uzi 10; #P newex 17 194 56 131137545 t i i; #P newex 17 270 56 131137545 pack 0 0.; #N vpatcher 337 144 748 548; #N comlet minimum amplitude (0. - 1.); #P inlet 227 33 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 227 94 67 131137545 expr 512 - $i1; #P newex 227 68 87 131137545 scale 0. 1. 0 256; #P newex 299 94 86 131137545 expr sqrt($i1/256.); #P newex 22 333 47 131137545 * 0.001; #P newex 208 196 27 131137545 0.; #P newex 208 116 20 131137545 t b; #P newex 22 94 196 131137545 if $i1>=$i2 && $i1<=$i3 then $i1 else out2 $i1; #P inlet 47 33 15 0; #P newex 22 165 136 131137545 scale 128 384 0 512; #P inlet 72 33 15 0; #P newex 72 211 36 131137545 - 256; #P newex 72 276 27 131137545 -; #P newex 72 253 27 131137545 256; #P newex 72 232 27 131137545 t b i; #P newex 22 189 60 131137545 split 0 256; #P newex 22 309 125 131137545 expr (sqrt($i1/256.)) * 1000.; #P outlet 22 362 15 0; #P inlet 22 33 15 0; #P comment 244 33 136 131137545 minimum amplitude (0. - 1.); #P connect 1 0 12 0; #P connect 12 0 10 0; #P connect 10 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 3 0; #P fasten 7 0 3 0 77 301 27 301; #P connect 3 0 15 0; #P connect 15 0 2 0; #P fasten 14 0 2 0 213 356 27 356; #P connect 11 0 10 1; #P connect 9 0 10 2; #P connect 4 1 8 0; #P connect 8 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 7 0; #P connect 5 1 7 1; #P connect 17 0 10 3; #P connect 11 0 12 1; #P connect 18 0 10 4; #P connect 9 0 12 2; #P connect 12 1 13 0; #P connect 13 0 14 0; #P fasten 16 0 14 1 304 153 230 153; #P connect 19 0 17 0; #P connect 17 0 18 0; #P fasten 17 0 16 0 232 89 304 89; #P pop; #P newobj 63 247 93 131137545 p pan_curve; #B color 12; #P connect 14 0 16 0; #P connect 11 0 16 0; #P connect 17 0 16 0; #P connect 16 0 12 0; #P connect 12 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 3 0; #P connect 3 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 1 0; #P connect 1 0 6 0; #P connect 4 2 7 0; #P lcolor 8; #P connect 2 1 0 0; #P connect 0 0 1 1; #P connect 4 1 5 2; #P connect 8 0 0 1; #P connect 9 0 0 2; #P connect 13 0 17 0; #P fasten 12 1 10 0 41 100 136 100; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P connect 17 1 0 3; #P pop; #P newobj 380 209 85 196617 patcher panCurve; #B color 12; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #N vpatcher 10 59 389 309; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P comment 164 182 157 131137545 <- it's the way her panpots work; #P comment 30 203 114 131137545 speaker 4 = right rear; #P comment 30 188 114 131137545 speaker 3 = left rear; #P comment 30 173 114 131137545 speaker 2 = right front; #P comment 30 158 114 131137545 speaker 1 = left front; #P comment 30 128 244 131137545 but when you explain that to the sound engineer \, she'll give you one of those looks...so make it easy:; #P comment 30 109 114 131137545 speaker 4 = left rear; #P comment 30 94 114 131137545 speaker 3 = right rear; #P comment 30 79 114 131137545 speaker 2 = right front; #P comment 30 33 262 131137545 when you build a patch to move sounds in a circle or spiral around you \, this numbering system makes sense:; #P comment 30 64 114 131137545 speaker 1 = left front; #P comment 176 89 73 131137545 <- it's a circle; #P pop; #P newobj 14 209 54 131137545 p friends; #B color 12; #P newex 380 73 44 131137545 +~ 0.; #P newex 206 73 48 131137545 +~ 0.25; #P newex 294 73 44 131137545 +~ 0.75; #P newex 288 135 31 131137545 *~; #P newex 309 104 81 131137545 cycle~ pan4.aif; #N comlet LeftRear Signal Out; #P outlet 202 160 15 0; #P comment 175 178 92 131137545 LeftRear Signal Out; #P newex 223 104 81 131137545 cycle~ pan4.aif; #P comment 270 178 102 131137545 RightRear Signal Out; #N comlet RightRear Signal Out; #P outlet 288 160 15 0; #P newex 202 135 31 131137545 *~; #P newex 120 73 44 131137545 +~ 0.5; #P newex 114 135 31 131137545 *~; #P newex 135 104 81 131137545 cycle~ pan4.aif; #N comlet Right Signal Out; #P outlet 114 160 15 0; #P comment 88 178 76 131137545 Right Signal Out; #P newex 49 104 81 131137545 cycle~ pan4.aif; #P comment 8 178 76 131137545 Left Signal Out; #N comlet Left Signal Out; #P outlet 28 160 15 0; #P newex 28 135 31 131137545 *~; #N comlet Signal In; #P inlet 28 29 15 0; #P comment 53 29 42 131137545 Signal In; #N comlet (SIgnal) Quad Pan (0. - 1.); #P inlet 120 29 15 0; #P comment 136 29 129 131137545 (SIgnal) Quad Pan (0. - 1.); #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P connect 7 0 4 1; #P fasten 3 0 11 0 33 128 119 128; #P connect 11 0 9 0; #P fasten 1 0 12 0 125 64 125 64; #P connect 12 0 7 1; #P connect 10 0 11 1; #P fasten 3 0 13 0 33 128 207 128; #P connect 13 0 18 0; #P fasten 1 0 22 0 125 63 211 63; #P connect 22 0 10 1; #P connect 16 0 13 1; #P fasten 3 0 20 0 33 128 293 128; #P connect 20 0 14 0; #P fasten 1 0 21 0 125 63 299 63; #P connect 21 0 16 1; #P connect 19 0 20 1; #P fasten 1 0 23 0 125 63 385 63; #P connect 23 0 19 1; #P connect 26 0 25 0; #P connect 28 0 25 1; #P pop; ------------------------- And here's the parent patch, named whatever: max v2; #N vpatcher 474 96 760 400; #P window setfont Geneva 9.; #P window linecount 4; #P comment 26 24 245 196617 NOTE ON WIDTH \; 0.5 is the minimum recommended width \; (resulting in panning between two channels at time) \; For wider presence increase the value.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 92 107 43 196617 panning; #P user meter~ 219 219 232 277 50 0 168 0 103 103 103 255 153 0 255 0 0 217 217 0 153 186 0 12 3 3 3 3; #P user meter~ 164 219 177 277 50 0 168 0 103 103 103 255 153 0 255 0 0 217 217 0 153 186 0 12 3 3 3 3; #P user meter~ 107 219 120 277 50 0 168 0 103 103 103 255 153 0 255 0 0 217 217 0 153 186 0 12 3 3 3 3; #P user meter~ 50 219 63 277 50 0 168 0 103 103 103 255 153 0 255 0 0 217 217 0 153 186 0 12 3 3 3 3; #P hidden newex 151 99 48 196617 loadbang; #P hidden message 151 116 42 196617 set 0.5; #P flonum 207 142 35 9 0. 1. 67 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 95 122 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 95 142 29 196617 sig~; #P toggle 20 167 15 0; #P flonum 151 142 35 9 0. 1. 67 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 39 198 180 196617 dac~ 1 2 3 4; #P newex 39 167 179 196617 pan4Sz; #P user gain~ 39 103 34 28 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 39 77 61 196617 cycle~ 300; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 147 116 48 196617 width of sound; #P comment 204 116 48 196617 minimum amp; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P fasten 7 0 5 0 25 189 44 189; #P connect 4 0 13 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 4 1; #P connect 4 1 5 1; #P connect 4 1 14 0; #P hidden connect 12 0 11 0; #P hidden connect 11 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 4 2; #P connect 4 2 5 2; #P connect 4 2 15 0; #P connect 10 0 4 3; #P connect 4 3 5 3; #P connect 4 3 16 0; #P pop; -- http://www.zacharyseldess.com From davidestevens at mac.com Mon Sep 3 15:09:04 2007 From: davidestevens at mac.com (David Stevens) Date: Mon Sep 3 15:13:18 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] problems building collective In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20B04EA5-7A3B-4D0D-9D9F-A91D0058B21E@mac.com> On 3 Sep 2007, at 20:44, Nick Rothwell wrote: > >> I've just tried this out with a much simpler patch, with fewer >> subpatches, and I get the same thing happening - none of the >> subpatchers will load properly when I try and run the collective >> inside Runtime. > > No obvious problems here... (MaxMSP 4.6.3/Jitter 1.6.3, MacBook > Pro, 10.4.10.) I just spent a few hours turning ever lower levels of bpatchers and subpatchers into Collectives and seeing if they would load ok. In the end I tracked it down to 2 particular objects and I'm talking to the objects' author now to see if we can sort it out. thanks David From jennek.geels at xs4all.nl Mon Sep 3 16:12:37 2007 From: jennek.geels at xs4all.nl (jennek geels) Date: Mon Sep 3 16:12:47 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] [OT] Chicago Sept 7-14: anything on? Message-ID: <9EDA84C8-5348-4E90-8F08-220BE23A13DD@xs4all.nl> Hi, I will be in Chicago from September 7 to 14. Anyone from this list performing/exhibiting there? thanks, -jennek (NL) From pancakepalace at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 19:12:08 2007 From: pancakepalace at hotmail.com (Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque) Date: Mon Sep 3 19:12:22 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: error handling/reporting In-Reply-To: <1be4b.46dbc104@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be71.46dcb0e8@www.cycling74.com> Hi again, Very sorry. You were right... I have the error object in my version of MAX/MSP 4.0... The funny thing is this object doesn't show up in my object list inside MAX and I can't even find the file anywhere on the computer. That is why I never knew about it. It doesn't matter, but it's kinda weird. Sorry about the waiste of your time, thanks a million xenakis From pancakepalace at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 20:21:43 2007 From: pancakepalace at hotmail.com (Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque) Date: Mon Sep 3 20:21:50 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] code translation? max/msp-> java or C Message-ID: <1be72.46dcc136@www.cycling74.com> Hi everyone, I was wondering if there are any programs that would translate the text code of a max patch to java or C code automatically. A few years back, I programmed a very complex patch for tracing 3d paths that are used to spatialize sound in 3D. I would like to keep working on this program, but it would be much easier in C and more efficient. Or course, I could port the code myself... but, this would be long. Is this even possible? thanks From bbnickell at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 21:54:58 2007 From: bbnickell at gmail.com (Brandon Nickell) Date: Mon Sep 3 21:55:03 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] code translation? max/msp-> java or C In-Reply-To: <1be72.46dcc136@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be72.46dcc136@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <32c629930709032054m5854928dtff7f4d99bc7db70e@mail.gmail.com> You're better off learning C and writing it yourself than what you're asking for. Writing a parser that takes pat file input and automatically parses that into C/C++ or even Java source code is a "hard problem." Code synthesis tools do exist, like Rational Rose based on UML/object to code generation. However if you ever look at the code generated, you'll realize why tools like this are a ways off from being taken more seriously by developers. I would suggest looking for a patch or a tool that already does what you're asking for. It will be much easier than writing a parser. Brandon On 9/3/07, Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > I was wondering if there are any programs that would translate > the text code of a max patch to java or C code automatically. > > A few years back, I programmed a very complex patch for tracing > 3d paths that are used to spatialize sound in 3D. I would like > to keep working on this program, but it would be much easier > in C and more efficient. > > Or course, I could port the code myself... but, this would be long. > > Is this even possible? > > thanks > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20070903/ebea8a72/attachment.htm From pancakepalace at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 22:02:07 2007 From: pancakepalace at hotmail.com (Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque) Date: Mon Sep 3 22:02:12 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: code translation? max/msp-> java or C In-Reply-To: <1be72.46dcc136@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be74.46dcd8bf@www.cycling74.com> Thanks, I was expecting this kind of reply. I do a lot of web programming so I know how editors create crappy bloated code. I do all my coding by hand. I was just wondering what if? And wanted to be 100% sure. I'll have to move my code to C myself. I have never found anything that does what my patch does. thanks. From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Tue Sep 4 00:27:10 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Tue Sep 4 00:27:42 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: error handling/reporting In-Reply-To: <1be71.46dcb0e8@www.cycling74.com> References: <1be71.46dcb0e8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1668CE1D-7A31-4BBC-B478-A4DFF95C64CD@e--j.com> On 4 sept. 07, at 03:12, Pierre-Emmanuel Levesque wrote: > Hi again, > > Very sorry. You were right... I have the error object in my version > of MAX/MSP 4.0... > > The funny thing is this object doesn't show up in my object list > inside MAX and I can't even find the file anywhere on the computer. > That is why I never knew about it. > > It doesn't matter, but it's kinda weird. It doesn't exist on your HD because it's an *internal* object (it's embed in the Max application itself). I'm glad you found it. Cheers, ej From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Tue Sep 4 01:31:33 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Tue Sep 4 01:31:37 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] aka.appleremote volume question In-Reply-To: <1bdb1.46d86513@www.cycling74.com> References: <1bdb1.46d86513@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <46DD09D5.8000105@addcom.de> Michael Hastings schrieb: > Take a look at the patch and I think you can see better what I mean. I'd do it like that... #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 2; #P newex 98 231 41 196617 prepend set; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 147 125 33 196617 t b -1; #P newex 98 125 33 196617 t b 1; #P newex 98 151 56 196617 accum; #P slider 98 199 14 20 0 1; #P number 98 177 35 9 1 19 3 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 147 93 43 196617 route 0; #P newex 98 93 43 196617 route 0; #P newex 98 24 60 196617 loadmess 1; #P toggle 98 45 15 0; #P newex 98 66 404 196617 appleremote; #P window linecount 6; #P comment 145 206 152 196617 <- it stops \, because the slider doesn't output higher or lower numbers than its range \, in combination with the feedback. You could also limit the range of the number box above.....; #P connect 6 0 7 0; #P fasten 10 1 8 1 175 148 126 148; #P fasten 10 0 8 0 152 145 103 145; #P connect 5 0 10 0; #P connect 9 1 8 1; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 4 0 9 0; #P fasten 11 0 8 0 103 265 91 265 91 148 103 148; #P connect 7 0 11 0; #P connect 8 0 6 0; #P connect 1 1 5 0; #P connect 1 0 4 0; #P connect 2 0 1 0; #P connect 3 0 2 0; #P window clipboard copycount 12; -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Tue Sep 4 01:31:41 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Tue Sep 4 01:31:47 2007 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: reliable installation hardware advice In-Reply-To: <489E5262-4A1B-47B3-B828-91B346A8D871@cassiel.com> References: <1bdd5.46d8ccc7@www.cycling74.com> <46D93280.2090108@bek.no> <489E5262-4A1B-47B3-B828-91B346A8D871@cassiel.com> Message-ID: <46DD09DD.4010008@addcom.de> Nick Rothwell schrieb: > And, of course, the oldest hint of all: double-check cables