From bob at interchange.ubc.ca Fri Feb 1 00:03:51 2008 From: bob at interchange.ubc.ca (Bob Pritchard) Date: Fri Feb 1 00:03:55 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] UBC Toolbox Windows version Message-ID: <1f306.47a2c454@www.cycling74.com> (This was originally in the Dev forum and should have been posted here.) A Windows version is available at http://debussy.music.ubc.ca/muset From pdelges at radiantslab.com Fri Feb 1 01:15:07 2008 From: pdelges at radiantslab.com (Patrick Delges) Date: Fri Feb 1 01:15:14 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] (ot)something possibly useful for mac-leopard users In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3C90F1D1-6F04-41C7-8BE7-331903FED320@radiantslab.com> Hallo HAns, On 31 janv. 08, at 19:43, hans w. koch wrote: > as the title already says, its a limited target audience, but > nevertheless, i wanted to share: > http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Snapper/snapper.html Looks nice indeed. > since the progressbar on audioplayback has dissapeared in leopard, > this little thing came in very handy. When you press the space bar once you selected a sound file icon in the finder, you'll get a progress bar. Quick Look is one of the very nice features introduced with Leopard (works with many file types) p _____________________________ Patrick Delges Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl http://www.crfmw.be/max From pdelges at radiantslab.com Fri Feb 1 01:17:41 2008 From: pdelges at radiantslab.com (Patrick Delges) Date: Fri Feb 1 01:17:49 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE - Construction of Message In-Reply-To: <4A6A52AF-1239-49D4-912F-10F5472B0C41@e--j.com> References: <1f2d4.47a211ab@www.cycling74.com> <06a38f7b76dc31e6c8c5484b94fc2710@radiantslab.com> <4A6A52AF-1239-49D4-912F-10F5472B0C41@e--j.com> Message-ID: <441A750E-3C2C-40B2-A830-254F243C56A8@radiantslab.com> On 31 janv. 08, at 22:59, Emmanuel Jourdan wrote: > On 31 janv. 08, at 20:26, Patrick Delges wrote: > >> But I just discovered that you don't have to put an argument, so >> [zl group] should work too (but in case you never send it a bang, >> it will never output anything). > > It's not totally true. The default value is 256, so when you don't > provide the argument to zl, it waits for 256 elements to send the > list to the output. Right. Thanks to correct my unverified assumptions ej. I anyway prefer not to use default values, as I never know what they are... Bonne journ?e, _____________________________ Patrick Delges Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl http://www.crfmw.be/max From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Fri Feb 1 01:20:45 2008 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Fri Feb 1 01:20:50 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: if/then/else sentence ( out2 ? ) In-Reply-To: <1f2eb.47a248e9@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f2eb.47a248e9@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A2D65D.8030009@addcom.de> damian schrieb: > i wanna delete this post what i dont'know how. It was less stupid than you think, and will help others with similar problems... There is no way to delete it and that is good, have a look at the history of my own stupidity... ;-) (though the first years are missing, as the list was @ McGill, I'd love to read my stupidities of that time...) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From jacopo at lan-muzic.com Fri Feb 1 01:44:55 2008 From: jacopo at lan-muzic.com (Jabbo) Date: Fri Feb 1 01:44:58 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Implementation of Clarence Barlow's AUTOBUSK In-Reply-To: <64ACB5D2-534A-4BF8-B489-04B81FB2E707@mac.com> Message-ID: <1f30c.47a2dc07@www.cycling74.com> please, if u want! Had classes with him in school. Great mind, Great teacher, Great beer drinker! From svtnkn at yahoo.com Fri Feb 1 02:02:37 2008 From: svtnkn at yahoo.com (sv k) Date: Fri Feb 1 02:02:41 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: fiddle~ and bonk~ for PC? In-Reply-To: <47A23B7C.20407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f30d.47a2e02c@www.cycling74.com> thanks alot for the help man :) From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Fri Feb 1 02:28:32 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Fri Feb 1 02:28:36 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: hello, want to make a visualizations similar to itunes?????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f30e.47a2e63f@www.cycling74.com> moving this topic to the jitter forum, mailing listers please reply to the jitter list From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Fri Feb 1 02:35:18 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Fri Feb 1 02:35:23 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: starting to sustitute Live for Max/MSP In-Reply-To: <3e29bbbb0801301422n444e07e2n4e4b3b85bb8a7876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f30f.47a2e7d6@www.cycling74.com> Quote: erik schoster wrote on Wed, 30 January 2008 23:22 ---------------------------------------------------- > and that you can do > everything (and much more!) that you want in Max. Hmm.. how about the real-time time stretching without artifacts? Mattijs From splash-music at gmx.ch Fri Feb 1 02:46:44 2008 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Fri Feb 1 02:46:48 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: RE - Construction of Message In-Reply-To: <06a38f7b76dc31e6c8c5484b94fc2710@radiantslab.com> Message-ID: <1f311.47a2ea84@www.cycling74.com> Thanks, this was a revelation. What made it complicated for me was: I didn't know, and it isnt well documented in the help, that zlgroup truncates the stream when receiving a bang, even if not all of the 66 (or whatever) ascii-codes have passed. kind regards From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Fri Feb 1 03:37:49 2008 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Fri Feb 1 03:38:03 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE - Construction of Message In-Reply-To: <441A750E-3C2C-40B2-A830-254F243C56A8@radiantslab.com> References: <1f2d4.47a211ab@www.cycling74.com> <06a38f7b76dc31e6c8c5484b94fc2710@radiantslab.com> <4A6A52AF-1239-49D4-912F-10F5472B0C41@e--j.com> <441A750E-3C2C-40B2-A830-254F243C56A8@radiantslab.com> Message-ID: <7A673309-AFD9-4158-A9F0-69A201A76758@e--j.com> On 1 f?vr. 08, at 09:17, Patrick Delges wrote: > Right. Thanks to correct my unverified assumptions ej. I anyway > prefer not to use default values, as I never know what they are... I do that too, the patch looks more explicit then ;-) ej From julien.rabin at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 03:48:13 2008 From: julien.rabin at gmail.com (jln) Date: Fri Feb 1 03:48:18 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: "nopointer" problem with wacom on intel In-Reply-To: <1f2be.47a1d9b8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f314.47a2f8ec@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Sebastian Lexer wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 15:22 ---------------------------------------------------- > I also have to get a new tablet for an installation. Is the wacom object detecting all of the most recent range of tablets, or should I get a specific one? I would be particularly interested in getting the Bamboo one. > > Thanks for any advice > > Sebastian ---------------------------------------------------- I just gave the wacom a (really) quick test. I own a Bamboo (the black model) and the wacom object works with it. The nopointer message is broken as well, though, as mentionned earlier in the discussion. From jahroen at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 04:59:33 2008 From: jahroen at gmail.com (Jeroen Groot) Date: Fri Feb 1 04:59:37 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: simple synth patches like 909 kicks etc In-Reply-To: <1f15a.479a4d21@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f032.4794f800@www.cycling74.com> <1f15a.479a4d21@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1be37e680802010359qe73136lbd457463428e4df4@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I've given this topic a thought in a sleepless night because I always wanted to build a drum machine myself. after some reading (indeed SOS articles are pretty damn convenient..) I've build a few patches. hihats snare and bd. I'm willing to share some on the board for everyone who's interrested. They're still a bit sloppy but simple. The pulsgen's of the hihats need some more tuning. Also the snare is likely to be modified a bit for a better sound. The bassdrum is still a mess so i won't share this one, unless someone is in need for it... cheers, Jeroen. snare: max v2; #N vpatcher 420 203 1125 833; #P origin 0 -104; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 266 43 144 9109513 unpack f f f f f f f f f f f; #P newex 266 22 205 9109513 loadmess 0.3 0.65 5 81 2 39 0 172 0.9 4700 0; #P newex 112 560 46 9109513 clip~ -1 1; #P user scope~ 361 569 491 699 256 3 128 -1. 1. 0 0. 0 0. 102 255 51 135 135 135 0; #P newex 112 534 33 9109513 *~ 0.6; #P newex 475 404 25 9109513 sig~; #P flonum 475 385 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 64 326 25 9109513 sig~; #P newex 27 325 25 9109513 sig~; #P flonum 64 307 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 27 307 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user ezdac~ 105 655 149 688 0; #P flonum 611 364 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 574 364 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 528 151 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 492 151 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 451 151 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 415 151 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 374 151 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 338 151 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P message 149 82 23 9109513 127; #P message 274 194 34 9109513 set \$1; #P message 216 233 14 9109513 0; #P newex 244 170 40 9109513 t b b f; #P newex 244 146 83 9109513 scale 0 127 0.5 1.; #P inlet 244 127 15 0; #P newex 112 508 27 9109513 +~; #P newex 112 439 27 9109513 +~; #P newex 531 454 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 172 391 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 112 391 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 531 423 53 9109513 svf~; #P newex 531 398 53 9109513 svf~; #P newex 531 356 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 548 304 35 9109513 noise~; #P newex 376 210 45 9109513 loadbang; #P newex 415 307 66 9109513 adsr~; 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#P connect 42 0 20 1; #P fasten 26 1 27 0 264 202 221 202; #P connect 27 0 5 1; #P connect 29 0 25 0; #P connect 24 0 25 0; #P connect 25 0 26 0; #P connect 48 0 49 0; #P connect 26 2 28 0; #P fasten 26 0 12 0 249 226 286 226; #P fasten 28 0 12 0 279 222 286 222; #P connect 12 0 7 0; #P connect 10 0 7 0; #P connect 9 0 7 0; #P connect 30 0 7 1; #P connect 31 0 7 2; #P fasten 11 0 7 3 381 302 328 302; #P fasten 11 0 7 4 381 302 342 302; #P connect 49 2 30 0; #P fasten 12 0 8 0 286 295 353 295; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 47 0 46 0; #P connect 32 0 8 1; #P connect 49 3 31 0; #P connect 14 0 9 0; #P connect 14 0 10 0; #P connect 14 0 11 0; #P connect 33 0 8 2; #P fasten 11 0 8 3 381 302 395 302; #P fasten 11 0 8 4 381 302 409 302; #P connect 49 4 32 0; #P fasten 12 0 13 0 286 295 420 295; #P connect 10 0 13 0; #P connect 9 0 13 0; #P connect 34 0 13 1; #P connect 35 0 13 2; #P connect 49 5 33 0; #P fasten 11 0 13 3 381 302 462 302; #P fasten 11 0 13 4 381 302 476 302; #P connect 49 8 43 0; #P connect 43 0 44 0; #P connect 49 6 34 0; #P connect 49 7 35 0; #P fasten 13 0 16 0 420 337 536 337; #P connect 16 0 17 0; #P connect 17 1 18 0; #P connect 18 0 21 0; #P connect 15 0 16 1; #P connect 44 0 21 1; #P connect 36 0 17 1; #P connect 36 0 18 1; #P connect 37 0 17 2; #P connect 37 0 18 2; #P connect 49 9 36 0; #P connect 49 10 37 0; #P pop; hihats: max v2; #N vpatcher 406 179 1006 827; #P origin 0 -40; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 310 400 46 9109513 clip~ -1 1; #P newex 53 237 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 99 237 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 70 211 27 9109513 +~ 1; #P flonum 116 123 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 70 190 27 9109513 !-~; #P newex 116 164 25 9109513 sig~; #P newex 116 143 27 9109513 * 0.; #P newex 447 202 45 9109513 loadbang; #P newex 277 70 73 9109513 unpack f f f f f; #P newex 277 47 142 9109513 loadmess 0.75 10000 0.27 2. 90; #N vpatcher 15 55 615 455; #P origin 0 -3; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; 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#P message 371 291 64 9109513 maxsustain 0; #P message 357 273 55 9109513 retrigger 10; #P newex 336 322 66 9109513 adsr~; #P newex 229 309 53 9109513 svf~; #P newex 100 76 35 9109513 noise~; #P user ezdac~ 269 501 313 534 0; #P newex 310 374 33 9109513 *~ 0.3; #P flonum 249 237 42 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 277 256 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 228 279 53 9109513 svf~; #P comment 178 130 44 9109513 trigger ->; #P comment 347 135 100 9109513 attack / decay; #P comment 247 217 120 9109513 bandpass freq / resonance; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 136 61 122 9109513 <<--tweak freqs in pulsebank for better sound; #P connect 20 0 30 0; #P fasten 25 0 26 0 121 187 75 187; #P connect 26 0 28 0; #P connect 28 0 30 1; #P connect 9 0 29 0; #P connect 22 0 27 0; #P connect 27 0 24 0; #P connect 24 0 25 0; #P connect 25 0 29 1; #P connect 27 0 24 1; #P fasten 30 0 4 0 58 267 233 267; #P fasten 29 0 4 0 104 267 233 267; #P connect 4 2 10 0; 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URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20080201/e7502bf0/attachment.htm From leighhunt at mac.com Fri Feb 1 06:18:07 2008 From: leighhunt at mac.com (Leigh Hunt) Date: Fri Feb 1 06:18:10 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] maxers in the Midlands UK?.. Message-ID: <1f320.47a31c0d@www.cycling74.com> Hi All,, Are there any fellow maxers based in the Midlands who might be up for a bit of brain-pooling once a month or so? I've been using masmsp for a couple of years now, mostly learning on my own, with occasional posts here when I get really stuck!.... Anyone else in that position where you think 'if only I could ask that question face to face with someone,then it just might all drop into place.....' ? I'm fairly literate with Max, slowly getting there with MSP, about to start discovering Jitter, and am also interested in developing externals in the future (see Dev for my helpless posts!). I am based in Nottingham and carless, but would happily either travel to surrounding cities Leicester, Birmingham, Derby, Sheffield...(trains permitting!), or host here in Nottingham. I will shortly be renovating my website, in order to outline my patches/provide examples/provoke interaction of brain cells. There's a few sounds up there at the moment, and some old max/logic pro ideas I was working on some time ago. Things will be updated in a week or so. http://homepage.mac.com/leighhunt/home.html hmmmm.let's see if anyone is out there then........ regards Leigh Any maxers in manchester? More specifically, any up and coming maxers? I've been learning it on my own for a couple of years now(very slowly), and it'd be great to meet up with other people in a similar position. We could meet up every so often, and go over tutorials, give each other assingments etc.. Or, if your very good at max, and wouldn't mind giving a couple of lessons/coaching, that'd be great too. Here are some examples of where I'm at max/msp wise: http://rodrigoconstanzo.com/instruments/#max -Rodrigo From wouterverbiest at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 06:37:30 2008 From: wouterverbiest at gmail.com (Wouter Verbiest) Date: Fri Feb 1 06:37:35 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Remote sleep and reboot Message-ID: <1f322.47a32099@www.cycling74.com> Hi everyone! I'm running 10 MacMinis in an exhibition. For more control I want to build a central computer, running a MAX patch. It should be able to remotely restart them and put them to sleep, individually. Can MAX do such a thing? greets Woody From rdwiv at charter.net Fri Feb 1 06:48:52 2008 From: rdwiv at charter.net (rick williamson) Date: Fri Feb 1 06:49:46 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Guitar Hero Program In-Reply-To: <1f29d.47a12c6d@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f29d.47a12c6d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Matt wrote: > > So I've scoured the internet looking for a program and its supposed to > be on a site called myfavoritebutton.net but its not. > Your looking in the wrong place, it's over here> http://theguitarzeros.com/download_fretbuzz.php Rick Williamson From pdelges at radiantslab.com Fri Feb 1 07:24:07 2008 From: pdelges at radiantslab.com (Patrick Delges) Date: Fri Feb 1 07:24:15 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <1f322.47a32099@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f322.47a32099@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 1 f?vr. 08, at 14:37, Wouter Verbiest wrote: > I'm running 10 MacMinis in an exhibition. > For more control I want to build a central computer, running a MAX > patch. It should be able to remotely restart them and put them to > sleep, individually. Can MAX do such a thing? As you are working with Macs, you can use the shutdown command thru the [shell] object to shut down, restart or put into sleep computers. If your 10 Mac Mini don't run Max, you can probably open shells on the clients computers from your central computer with rlogin/rsh/... (don't forget to allow Remote login in the firewall). _____________________________ Patrick Delges Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl http://www.crfmw.be/max From wugmump at mac.com Fri Feb 1 07:24:09 2008 From: wugmump at mac.com (joshua goldberg) Date: Fri Feb 1 07:24:17 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <1f322.47a32099@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f322.47a32099@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <54A119AA-5963-4D82-AA00-75E3B773CF32@mac.com> max can send shell commands via the shell object. http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/JeremyBernstein On Feb 1, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Wouter Verbiest wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > I'm running 10 MacMinis in an exhibition. > For more control I want to build a central computer, running a MAX > patch. It should be able to remotely restart them and put them to > sleep, individually. Can MAX do such a thing? > > greets > Woody > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From zip at knoware.nl Fri Feb 1 07:53:50 2008 From: zip at knoware.nl (Zip Boterbloem) Date: Fri Feb 1 07:54:19 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: References: <1f322.47a32099@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <3E715D3F-F0F8-4F1B-8351-661936EC3934@knoware.nl> For stuff like updating/restarting etc. from a central computer, even over the internet, Apple Remote Desktop is a handy program. But you can also do it with the shell object /remote login and some scripts if you want to stay inside Max, as Patrick suggests. Op 1-feb-2008, om 15:24 heeft Patrick Delges het volgende geschreven: > > On 1 f?vr. 08, at 14:37, Wouter Verbiest wrote: > > >> I'm running 10 MacMinis in an exhibition. >> For more control I want to build a central computer, running a MAX >> patch. It should be able to remotely restart them and put them to >> sleep, individually. Can MAX do such a thing? > > > As you are working with Macs, you can use the shutdown command thru > the [shell] object to shut down, restart or put into sleep > computers. If your 10 Mac Mini don't run Max, you can probably open > shells on the clients computers from your central computer with > rlogin/rsh/... (don't forget to allow Remote login in the firewall). > > _____________________________ > Patrick Delges > > Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl > http://www.crfmw.be/max > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From wouterverbiest at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 08:53:00 2008 From: wouterverbiest at gmail.com (Wouter Verbiest) Date: Fri Feb 1 08:53:05 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <3E715D3F-F0F8-4F1B-8351-661936EC3934@knoware.nl> Message-ID: <1f32a.47a3405c@www.cycling74.com> Interesting. I just hooked my Macbook to my PC using a basic switch. Then I installed the aka.power external (http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/#aka_power) on my MacBook. Via udpsend and udpreceive I sent the Macbook a "sleep" message on its correct host and port, which got routed to the aka.power object. And so it went to sleep... Very nice, and very simple. But now, how do I wake it up using MAX? I am not a big programmer, so, any simple suggestions? From derekshull at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 09:18:43 2008 From: derekshull at gmail.com (Matt) Date: Fri Feb 1 09:18:48 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Guitar Hero Program In-Reply-To: <1f29d.47a12c6d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f32b.47a34663@www.cycling74.com> Yeah but that doesn't let you control what sound it makes From dbarnes at waypt.com Fri Feb 1 09:22:09 2008 From: dbarnes at waypt.com (Danny Barnes) Date: Fri Feb 1 09:22:15 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] managing multiple patches Message-ID: <1f32c.47a3472e@www.cycling74.com> i am new forgive me for that. i have been working with oscillator, sampler, sequencer and various patches. i had a dream where all of these elements were in one place for a piece. should i be looking to make one big patch? how can i arrange the various components where i can have access to all of them at once for a particular piece? if you open a folder, and you had four of five different patches in there, you open each, how do you connect them and move data around? or do you arrange in one big patch and use sub-patches. sorry if the question is kinda spotty, i'm trying to visualize the end result and it's not exactly clear. thank you in advance. danny barnes -- My smile is stuck I cannot go back to your frownland. Captain Beefheart From pdelges at radiantslab.com Fri Feb 1 09:34:24 2008 From: pdelges at radiantslab.com (Patrick Delges) Date: Fri Feb 1 09:34:30 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <1f32a.47a3405c@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f32a.47a3405c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <69ECD2D7-2A18-44F9-B181-9260AA5F6CFF@radiantslab.com> On 1 f?vr. 08, at 16:53, Wouter Verbiest wrote: > > Interesting. > I just hooked my Macbook to my PC using a basic switch. > Then I installed the aka.power external (http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/#aka_power > ) on my MacBook. aka always has a nice solution for everything... > ut now, how do I wake it up using MAX? This may be of some interest: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050526140449513 p _____________________________ Patrick Delges Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl http://www.crfmw.be/max From itssmelly at hotmail.com Fri Feb 1 10:20:53 2008 From: itssmelly at hotmail.com (James) Date: Fri Feb 1 10:20:59 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] snare rush / drum roll Message-ID: <1f32f.47a354f2@www.cycling74.com> basically im trying to get a drum roll so far this i kinda what i got the line doesnt work cos i cant get a comma in there how do i do this?? anyone else got a better way of doing this? cheers! max v2; #N vpatcher 10 59 621 568; #P origin 0 47; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P number 245 178 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 209 178 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 173 178 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P button 98 66 15 0; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 101 102 64 196617 random 100; #P newex 188 102 64 196617 random 100; #P newex 275 97 70 196617 random 1000; #P toggle 260 312 15 0; #P newex 258 383 27 196617 sig~; #P newex 246 404 65 196617 groove~ asd; #P message 177 259 119 196617 13 76 535; #P message 177 228 69 196617 set \$1 \$2 \$3; #P newex 177 202 52 196617 pak 0 0 0; #P message 245 366 49 196617 startloop; #P newex 177 285 40 196617 line; #P number 177 314 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P toggle 150 315 15 0; #P newex 150 335 37 196617 metro; #P connect 14 0 13 0; #P connect 1 0 0 0; #P connect 13 0 15 0; #P connect 15 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P fasten 6 0 7 0 182 246 182 246; #P connect 7 0 3 0; #P connect 3 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 0 1; #P connect 14 0 12 0; #P connect 16 0 5 1; #P connect 12 0 16 0; #P connect 17 0 5 2; #P connect 11 0 17 0; #P fasten 0 0 4 0 155 361 250 361; #P connect 4 0 8 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 10 0 9 0; #P connect 14 0 11 0; #P pop; From grimepoch at mac.com Fri Feb 1 10:38:13 2008 From: grimepoch at mac.com (Rick Burnett) Date: Fri Feb 1 10:38:18 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Performing an action on Exit In-Reply-To: <1f2f5.47a25f3e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f330.47a35905@www.cycling74.com> That is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks! From programmeur at pucemuse.com Fri Feb 1 10:42:55 2008 From: programmeur at pucemuse.com (Vincent Goudard) Date: Fri Feb 1 11:00:40 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] differenciating trigonometric function with delta~ Message-ID: <47A35A1F.5050806@pucemuse.com> Hi list, I was confused by the use of delta~ : wanted to differentiate a cosine to get a sine~. I thought i would need to multiply the output of delta by 44100 to approximate derivative by finite difference.. but found out I had to multiply by some 6900 or so to get the amplitude of my sine wave to have unit amplitude... Am I blind about something ? #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 275 507 110 9109513 sin^2 + cos^2 =1; #P comment 141 251 82 9109513 The sine (*-1); #P comment 431 262 59 9109513 The cosine; #P newex 355 115 71 9109513 loadmess 6920; #P number 355 144 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user scope~ 113 287 243 417 256 3 128 -1. 1. 0 0. 0 0. 102 255 51 135 135 135 0; #P user scope~ 394 286 524 416 256 3 128 -1. 1. 0 0. 0 0. 102 255 51 135 135 135 0; #P user scope~ 260 373 390 503 256 3 128 -2. 2. 0 0. 0 0. 102 255 51 135 135 135 0; #P newex 260 341 27 9109513 +~; #P newex 302 299 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 260 297 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 260 258 40 9109513 *~ 4410; #P newex 260 229 33 9109513 delta~; #P newex 261 171 70 9109513 *~ 6.283186; #P newex 261 195 35 9109513 cosx~; #B color 5; #P newex 262 146 49 9109513 phasor~ 1; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 20.; #P comment 395 140 307 9109524 <- How come this value???; #P connect 2 0 4 0; #P fasten 2 0 7 0 266 224 307 224; #P fasten 2 0 7 1 266 220 324 220; #P fasten 2 0 10 0 266 216 399 216; #P fasten 5 0 11 0 265 283 118 283; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P fasten 5 0 6 1 265 287 282 287; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P connect 13 0 12 0; #P connect 12 0 5 1; #P connect 1 0 3 0; #P connect 3 0 2 0; #P connect 7 0 8 1; #P connect 6 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P window clipboard copycount 17; From pencilina at verizon.net Fri Feb 1 12:24:45 2008 From: pencilina at verizon.net (Bradford Reed) Date: Fri Feb 1 12:24:53 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f32c.47a3472e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f337.47a371fd@www.cycling74.com> bpatcher -- Chief Pencilina Operator and Manager http://pencilina.com/ From dlehrich at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 13:44:50 2008 From: dlehrich at gmail.com (Dan) Date: Fri Feb 1 13:45:01 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f337.47a371fd@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f33f.47a384c0@www.cycling74.com> bpatcher is certainly an option, but it's definitely not the only way to manage complex patches in Max/MSP. It really depends on your end goals, and from the sound of your post it seems like you're not quite sure what you're after (don't worry, many of us are in similar positions... I find myself feeling that way over and over...) I would definitely recommend checking out the Max46Topics.pdf document, there are chapters on "Efficiency" and "Encapsulation" that might be particularly relevant to your questions. Other than that... be patient, try things out, and feel free to come back to this forum with more specific questions or patches to post. I think you'll find a very helpful community out there... Hope that helps, Dan From brendan_mccloskey at yahoo.ie Fri Feb 1 14:09:52 2008 From: brendan_mccloskey at yahoo.ie (brendan mccloskey) Date: Fri Feb 1 14:09:57 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: grain envelope help In-Reply-To: <1f2f7.47a260a8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f341.47a38a9f@www.cycling74.com> Hey Hallo thanks a lot for this; it works just like i need it to:) I can see that the variable coming from the random object is dictating the duration of the 'grain' envelope; as I don't really understand what wrap-around is (you say 1.25 'wraps around' to 0.25), i can't see if it's possible to vary the attack and release portions of the envelope. Forgive my weak Math/DSP knowledge: i'm quite new to MSP Best wishes Brendan From pencilina at verizon.net Fri Feb 1 14:21:55 2008 From: pencilina at verizon.net (Bradford Reed) Date: Fri Feb 1 14:21:59 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f32c.47a3472e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f344.47a38d73@www.cycling74.com> Sorry didn't mean to be short in my response.. I echo all the nice and helpful things Dan said as well. It was just that bpatcher really helped me get my complex patches way under control. best b -- Chief Pencilina Operator and Manager http://pencilina.com/ From avantronica at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 14:31:33 2008 From: avantronica at gmail.com (scotty) Date: Fri Feb 1 14:31:43 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: aka.wiiremote object & the expansion foibles In-Reply-To: <1f2d9.47a21f56@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f345.47a38fb4@www.cycling74.com> fwiw 1) connect remote without an expansion option (ie nunchuk or classic controller) 2) once connected: attach(or re-attach) either expansion option and fire off an 'expansion 0' followed by 'expansion 1' to the object bingo ! thereafter the expansion options can be swapped and either will be live seems pretty robust now - works every time - that'll do me btw doing the same in an 'automated' patcher without the hardware disconnect was hooking-up on avg 1 in 4 ... thus the original enquiry From kjg at msmrz.net Fri Feb 1 14:50:18 2008 From: kjg at msmrz.net (Klaas-Jan Govaart) Date: Fri Feb 1 14:50:22 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: grain envelope help In-Reply-To: <1f341.47a38a9f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f347.47a39419@www.cycling74.com> >I don't really understand what wrap-around is (you say 1.25 'wraps >around' to 0.25) I just meant that the cycle~ object does something like a modulo 1 (% 1) operation on everything coming in to its phase input. for example, an input of 1.01 will result in a value of 0.01, and 5.76 would result in 0.76. Like I said, if you want another window shape, you'd have to make that happen using for example phasor~ and wave~ or phasor~ and trapezoid~. Of course you could also use line~ in the same way it's being used in my earlier example to send a signal from 0 to 1 to wave~/trapezoid~ or even to a cycle~ object using another buffer. If this all sound like Greek to you, it's probably time to start doing the tutorials. good luck kjg modulo: max v2; #N vpatcher 448 205 660 481; #P user ezdac~ 59 173 103 206 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 60 86 34 196617 %~ 1; #P user number~ 60 112 99 127 9 3 3 2 0. 0. 0 0. 250 0. 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user number~ 60 60 99 75 9 3 3 1 0. 0. 0 1.28 250 0. 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P connect 0 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 1 0; #P pop; From martin.leese at stanfordalumni.org Fri Feb 1 15:03:24 2008 From: martin.leese at stanfordalumni.org (Martin Leese) Date: Fri Feb 1 15:03:29 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Encoding AC3 and DTS� In-Reply-To: <05D56E5B-E20B-46EF-950A-1468A4F3CB0D@noos.fr> Message-ID: <1f348.47a3972c@www.cycling74.com> Quote: smalllotus@noos.fr wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 17:17 ---------------------------------------------------- > Hi all ! > > I begin to generate surround works, with ircam' spat~ , vbap ans > ambisonics. Is there any works about an object who can encode in AC3 > Dolby 5.1 or DTS ? ---------------------------------------------------- For converting Ambisonics see: http://www.ambisonia.com/wiki/index.php/Conversion_to_other_Surround_Sound_formats This Ambisonic wiki contains lots of useful stuff. Note that all the 150 free Ambisonic downloads at www.ambisonia.com are offered in both Ambisonic B-Format and DTS 5.1. That is to say, they have all been converted. (DTS has the advantage that you don't need a decoder, but the disadvantages that you loose height and can only use four speakers in a square.) Regards, Martin From brendan_mccloskey at yahoo.ie Fri Feb 1 15:45:56 2008 From: brendan_mccloskey at yahoo.ie (brendan mccloskey) Date: Fri Feb 1 15:46:00 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: grain envelope help In-Reply-To: <1f347.47a39419@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f34b.47a3a123@www.cycling74.com> Thanks again for this; it's much clearer. Although I'm new to this forum, I have been through the tutorials (in detail) and i'm fairly fluent in the MAX processing side of MAX/MSP, but, without an extensive Math background, i'm finding the MSP side of things a bit of a challenge. But your help has been very valuable; thanks a lot, this forum is one of the best online Brendan ps if you like i'll post the final finished patch: i'm going for an interactive live glitcher/loop-sampler patch, maybe you would like to point out my errors From kjg at msmrz.net Fri Feb 1 16:05:02 2008 From: kjg at msmrz.net (Klaas-Jan Govaart) Date: Fri Feb 1 16:05:07 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: grain envelope help In-Reply-To: <1f34b.47a3a123@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f34c.47a3a59e@www.cycling74.com> you're welcome. glad i could be of help. if you're serious about this stuff, a good text book like the computer music tutorial by Roads can be very helpful. I bought it years ago and I'm still looking up things regularly. very good resource. just a suggestion. if you feel like sharing your patch, feel free. just don't ever feel obliged. also, feel free to post any questions. some will be answered, some won't. it's the nature of forums. it's quite an amazing pool of knowledge and experience here, but of course.. sometimes people are busy or just don't feel like typing/patching. if you have any specific question on a patch, just post an example to clarify your question. this will improve your chances of getting an answer. o btw: maybe you should download the granular toolkit by Nathan Wolek. There is a patch "gtk.winmaker" in there. it will help you understand how to make your own window shapes, and how to get them into a buffer for use with wave~ happy glitching :) From kjg at msmrz.net Fri Feb 1 16:16:15 2008 From: kjg at msmrz.net (Klaas-Jan Govaart) Date: Fri Feb 1 16:16:19 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: grain envelope help In-Reply-To: <1f2f0.47a2563c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f34d.47a3a83e@www.cycling74.com> > Having recently built a workable live-looper/glitcher patch, which relies on drunk/metro/line objects into a groove object to create grains, I'd now like to get rid of all those nasty artifacts that occur when I 'scrub' through groove actually, you might want to post a little patch demonstrating how you control that scrubbing through groove.. to get more specific suggestions perhaps. From jmc at jmcouturier.com Fri Feb 1 16:58:02 2008 From: jmc at jmcouturier.com (Jean-Michel Couturier) Date: Fri Feb 1 16:58:06 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: "nopointer" problem with wacom on intel In-Reply-To: <1f314.47a2f8ec@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f34f.47a3b20a@www.cycling74.com> Hello, The "no pointer" problem appends with the 6.XX versions of wacom drivers ; It works fine for me with older versions of the driver (4.9.6-3 or other depending of the model of your wacom tablet). I will e-mail wacom about that as soon as possible. > the wacom object reports that the driver is too old (even though it is the latest) I will have a look on this bug too. Jean-Michel Couturier PS : In the future, the wacom object for os X will be updated by the CNMAT -- http://www.jmc.blueyeti.fr From keesneervoort at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 17:34:10 2008 From: keesneervoort at gmail.com (Kessito) Date: Fri Feb 1 17:34:17 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Spat In-Reply-To: <1f305.47a2a54c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f350.47a3ba82@www.cycling74.com> tconvolution would be perfect, but I'm afraid it's mac-only and I' working on a PC From thetawnyowl at googlemail.com Fri Feb 1 18:51:30 2008 From: thetawnyowl at googlemail.com (Leafcutter John) Date: Fri Feb 1 18:51:35 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: grain envelope help In-Reply-To: <1f34d.47a3a83e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f351.47a3cca1@www.cycling74.com> I too have no background in maths but i found it very useful to use the Signal Scope to see what effects operators are having on the signal. I learned a lot about the objects this way. Also for Granular stuff i highly recommend checking out Nobuyasu Sakonda's granular Max/MSP patches. It might be good for you to see how he deals with windowing. http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~nsakonda/maxpatch.html best of luck. John. -- http://www.leafcutterjohn.com "The Forest And The Sea" Out on Staubgold Records Staubgold 68 CD/LP From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Sat Feb 2 03:41:36 2008 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Sat Feb 2 03:41:46 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] snare rush / drum roll In-Reply-To: <1f32f.47a354f2@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f32f.47a354f2@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A448E0.7010604@addcom.de> James schrieb: > basically im trying to get a drum roll so far this i kinda what i got > the line doesnt work cos i cant get a comma in there how do i do > this?? The comma question is coming up almost every week, please search the archives... (create two messages by using trigger for example...) > anyone else got a better way of doing this? cheers! just beware, metro won't change its speed till the next bang... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From jennek.geels at xs4all.nl Sat Feb 2 03:57:48 2008 From: jennek.geels at xs4all.nl (jennek geels) Date: Sat Feb 2 03:58:10 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <1f32a.47a3405c@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f32a.47a3405c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 1-feb-2008, at 16:53, Wouter Verbiest wrote: > > Interesting. > I just hooked my Macbook to my PC using a basic switch. > Then I installed the aka.power external (http://www.iamas.ac.jp/ > ~aka/max/#aka_power) on my MacBook. > > Via udpsend and udpreceive I sent the Macbook a "sleep" message on > its correct host and port, which got routed to the aka.power > object. And so it went to sleep... > Very nice, and very simple. But now, how do I wake it up using MAX? you might try to wake the mac using "wake on LAN" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN also be sure to check your system preferences > energy saver > options > wake options and check "wake for ethernet network administrator access" on the mac minis you want to wake up HtH -jennek From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Sat Feb 2 03:59:25 2008 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Sat Feb 2 03:59:41 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] differenciating trigonometric function with delta~ In-Reply-To: <47A35A1F.5050806@pucemuse.com> References: <47A35A1F.5050806@pucemuse.com> Message-ID: <47A44D0D.5030001@addcom.de> Vincent Goudard schrieb: > Hi list, > > I was confused by the use of delta~ : > wanted to differentiate a cosine to get a sine~. > I thought i would need to multiply the output of delta > by 44100 to approximate derivative by finite difference.. > but found out I had to multiply by some 6900 or so to > get the amplitude of my sine wave to have unit amplitude... > Am I blind about something ? If you change the frequency, you'll see that the normalisation value is dependent on that. delta~ will output a maximum value at the zero crossing. its the difference between adjacent samples. That difference is dependent on the sampling rate and frequency of the sine. You would have to calculate your normalisation value according to this... You'll see, that your assumed value of 4410 will fit for the frequency of pi/2 (1.570796 Hz) Hope this helps... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Sat Feb 2 04:08:46 2008 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Sat Feb 2 04:08:57 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f32c.47a3472e@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f32c.47a3472e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A44F3E.2080605@addcom.de> Danny Barnes schrieb: > i have been working with oscillator, sampler, sequencer and various > patches. i had a dream where all of these elements were in one place > for a piece. should i be looking to make one big patch? > > how can i arrange the various components where i can have access to > all of them at once for a particular piece? I do it two fold: I have a collection of useful subpatchers (My St.ools and abhaXions) which are independent of a specific project. They stay where they are, because they will be needed by many/all projects... Then I create a folder for my project, inside that folder I have a subfolder called "patches" or somthing like that, also a folder like "samples" or "media". I place all project specific subpatchers into the "patcher" folder. Now if I want to give the ready made project to a client, I just add another "3rd party" folder and place my complete St.ools in there in addition to any other 3rd party objects which might be required. The client will immediately find the main patcher if opening the project folder, she does not have to deal with all theses subpatchers, they reside peacefully inside the folders and will be found by Max... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Sat Feb 2 05:24:02 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Sat Feb 2 05:24:06 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <47A44F3E.2080605@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1f361.47a460de@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 12:08 ---------------------------------------------------- > The client will immediately find the main patcher if opening the project > folder, she does not have to deal with all theses subpatchers, they > reside peacefully inside the folders and will be found by Max... Um, as far as I know patches in subfolders are not found by max unless you put that subfolder explicitly in the search path. If I'm wrong, I'd love to know! Mattijs From wouterverbiest at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 05:56:22 2008 From: wouterverbiest at gmail.com (Wouter Verbiest) Date: Sat Feb 2 05:56:26 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <1f322.47a32099@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f365.47a46875@www.cycling74.com> Does anyone know how to send a Wake-on-lan message/package using MAX? From s.lexer at incalcando.com Sat Feb 2 06:07:00 2008 From: s.lexer at incalcando.com (Sebastian Lexer) Date: Sat Feb 2 06:07:07 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: "nopointer" problem with wacom on intel In-Reply-To: <1f314.47a2f8ec@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f367.47a46af4@www.cycling74.com> Thanks a lot, this has been very helpful. Sebastian From Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu Sat Feb 2 06:34:31 2008 From: Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu (Gary Lee Nelson) Date: Sat Feb 2 06:34:40 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] snare rush / drum roll In-Reply-To: <47A448E0.7010604@addcom.de> Message-ID: Use metro~. Pulse or el.samm~ On 2/2/08 5:41 AM, "Stefan Tiedje" wrote: > just beware, metro won't change its speed till the next bang... > > Stefan Cheers Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson From itssmelly at hotmail.com Sat Feb 2 09:29:47 2008 From: itssmelly at hotmail.com (James) Date: Sat Feb 2 09:29:50 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: snare rush / drum roll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f378.47a49a7a@www.cycling74.com> im still not sure how to get the comma in there ive never used the trigger object before not entirely sure how it works. do i use pulse as a ramp or something? From kjg at msmrz.net Sat Feb 2 09:41:22 2008 From: kjg at msmrz.net (Klaas-Jan Govaart) Date: Sat Feb 2 09:41:26 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: grain envelope help In-Reply-To: <1f351.47a3cca1@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f379.47a49d31@www.cycling74.com> John is right. Scoping is probably the best way to find out what's happening to a signal if your not sure due to lack of experience/imagination/math background/coffee/cookies. Just slow things down and scrutinize the patch with a few scopes. And Sakonda's patches are indeed very educational if you are going for a more "proper" signal based implementation of anything granular. regards, kjg From oleschmidt at gmx.net Sat Feb 2 10:53:54 2008 From: oleschmidt at gmx.net (Ole Schmidt) Date: Sat Feb 2 10:53:56 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: snare rush / drum roll In-Reply-To: <1f378.47a49a7a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f37e.47a4ae32@www.cycling74.com> Do you mean how to get a comma in the message box (with a backlash), like: max v2; #N vpatcher 10 59 831 724; #P origin 0 47; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 237 288 82 196617 set \$1 \\\, \$2 \$3; #P pop; HTH, ole From derrickgiscloux at free.fr Sat Feb 2 10:54:09 2008 From: derrickgiscloux at free.fr (Derrick Giscloux) Date: Sat Feb 2 10:54:12 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] question about search on this forum Message-ID: <1f37f.47a4ae40@www.cycling74.com> Hello, I'm searching for the message #83217 but don't know how to accede to it. I had a look on the forum guidelines without success. Thank you. From doktorp at mac.com Sat Feb 2 11:18:24 2008 From: doktorp at mac.com (vade) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:18:31 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f361.47a460de@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f361.47a460de@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <787A2CE1-AC1E-4772-8563-84DFE76178EC@mac.com> I thought the newer versions of max automatically add the folder of the patch being opened to the search path for that 'max being open' session, and thus things are found recursively. At least, im 99% sure, as I dont add many subfolders and my patches are found. Maybe ive lost my mind again? On Feb 2, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Mattijs Kneppers wrote: > > Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 12:08 > ---------------------------------------------------- > >> The client will immediately find the main patcher if opening the >> project >> folder, she does not have to deal with all theses subpatchers, they >> reside peacefully inside the folders and will be found by Max... > > Um, as far as I know patches in subfolders are not found by max > unless you put that subfolder explicitly in the search path. If I'm > wrong, I'd love to know! > > Mattijs > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From rossmalone at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 11:19:42 2008 From: rossmalone at gmail.com (Ross Malone) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:19:46 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] LED / Toggle / Check box not activating message box Message-ID: <1f384.47a4b43d@www.cycling74.com> Hi guys! I've got a patch which involves triggering LEDs which i want to then trigger a bang, activating a message box, triggering a midi note, but it doesnt produce the bang, unless i manually turn the LED on off, I've been looking around max and i can't find anything! hope your all well! ross From kjg at msmrz.net Sat Feb 2 11:36:00 2008 From: kjg at msmrz.net (Klaas-Jan Govaart) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:36:03 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <787A2CE1-AC1E-4772-8563-84DFE76178EC@mac.com> Message-ID: <1f385.47a4b810@www.cycling74.com> my max (4.6.3) only finds subpatches that are in the same directory, not in a subdirectory. without adding anything to the eearch path this works: /path/to/patch/main_patch + /path/to/patch/sub_patch and this doesn't: /path/to/patch/main_patch + /path/to/patch/sub/sub_patch in the second example it can't find the sub patch. would be very nice if it would though. i'd prefer to keep all the dependencies of a big patch in a sub dir of the folder where the patch itself is, and _know_ that max will look there first, before it searches elsewhere in my file path.. things can be confusing when you have different versions of patches, subpatches, abstractions or externals floating around in the search path. now i just put all the dependencies in the same folder as the main patch. regards, kjg From kjg at msmrz.net Sat Feb 2 11:43:22 2008 From: kjg at msmrz.net (Klaas-Jan Govaart) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:43:25 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: question about search on this forum In-Reply-To: <1f37f.47a4ae40@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f387.47a4b9ca@www.cycling74.com> use google to search the forums in this way: site:cycling74.com/forums #83217 regards, kjg From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Sat Feb 2 12:25:00 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Sat Feb 2 12:25:05 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <787A2CE1-AC1E-4772-8563-84DFE76178EC@mac.com> Message-ID: <1f38b.47a4c38b@www.cycling74.com> Quote: vade wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 19:18 ---------------------------------------------------- > I thought the newer versions of max automatically add the folder of > the patch being opened to the search path for that 'max being open' > session, and thus things are found recursively. > > At least, im 99% sure, as I dont add many subfolders and my patches > are found. Maybe ive lost my mind again? > > Hmm.. could it be that your entire main patch folder is inside the max search path? For instance in ../MaxMSP 4.6/patches? I attached an example of how it doesn't work for me. If I unpack this zip to my desktop and open 'main', I get an error that the abstraction isn't found. Mattijs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: subfoldertest.zip Type: application/zip Size: 3135 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20080202/5282bfa4/subfoldertest.zip From kjg at msmrz.net Sat Feb 2 14:21:06 2008 From: kjg at msmrz.net (Klaas-Jan Govaart) Date: Sat Feb 2 14:21:10 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: LED / Toggle / Check box not activating message box In-Reply-To: <1f384.47a4b43d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f38f.47a4dec2@www.cycling74.com> does this help? max v2; #N vpatcher 211 172 419 491; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 4; #P comment 26 217 100 196617 get a bang from manually switching it on or off by using select; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 80 187 45 196617 print on; #P newex 31 161 41 196617 sel 0 1; #P message 67 90 33 196617 set 1; #P message 31 90 33 196617 set 0; #P newex 31 187 48 196617 print off; #P user led 31 130 17 17 0 150; #P window linecount 4; #P comment 26 33 100 196617 switch the state with the set messages for your display purposes; #P connect 4 0 1 0; #P connect 3 0 1 0; #P connect 1 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 2 0; #P connect 5 1 6 0; #P pop; From wally at cycling74.com Sat Feb 2 14:48:14 2008 From: wally at cycling74.com (Wallace Winfrey) Date: Sat Feb 2 14:48:20 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] question about search on this forum In-Reply-To: <1f37f.47a4ae40@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f37f.47a4ae40@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A4E51E.90706@cycling74.com> Derrick Giscloux wrote: > Hello, > > I'm searching for the message #83217 but don't know how to accede to it. > I had a look on the forum guidelines without success. You're looking for message #83217? That's fairly specific :-) http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=83217 Is that what you're looking for? w From Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu Sat Feb 2 15:53:49 2008 From: Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu (Gary Lee Nelson) Date: Sat Feb 2 15:53:54 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f38b.47a4c38b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Yup, that's how it has always happened for me. Hope Max 5 changes this. On 2/2/08 2:25 PM, "Mattijs Kneppers" wrote: > Quote: vade wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 19:18 > ---------------------------------------------------- >> I thought the newer versions of max automatically add the folder of >> the patch being opened to the search path for that 'max being open' >> session, and thus things are found recursively. >> >> At least, im 99% sure, as I dont add many subfolders and my patches >> are found. Maybe ive lost my mind again? >> >> > > Hmm.. could it be that your entire main patch folder is inside the max search > path? For instance in ../MaxMSP 4.6/patches? > > I attached an example of how it doesn't work for me. If I unpack this zip to > my desktop and open 'main', I get an error that the abstraction isn't found. > > Mattijs > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp Cheers Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson From doktorp at mac.com Sat Feb 2 18:32:38 2008 From: doktorp at mac.com (vade) Date: Sat Feb 2 18:32:44 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A1BA260-C6B5-4861-938F-767397091816@mac.com> Yes, sorry, it adds the FOLDER, not the subfolders. I was remembering incorrectly, as I dont normally worry about it and have procedurally created hard coded paths with my module loading system, so I can NOT think about it. Sorry for the confusion. On Feb 2, 2008, at 5:53 PM, Gary Lee Nelson wrote: > Yup, that's how it has always happened for me. Hope Max 5 changes > this. > > > On 2/2/08 2:25 PM, "Mattijs Kneppers" wrote: > >> Quote: vade wrote on Sat, 02 February 2008 19:18 >> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> I thought the newer versions of max automatically add the folder of >>> the patch being opened to the search path for that 'max being open' >>> session, and thus things are found recursively. >>> >>> At least, im 99% sure, as I dont add many subfolders and my patches >>> are found. Maybe ive lost my mind again? >>> >>> >> >> Hmm.. could it be that your entire main patch folder is inside the >> max search >> path? For instance in ../MaxMSP 4.6/patches? >> >> I attached an example of how it doesn't work for me. If I unpack >> this zip to >> my desktop and open 'main', I get an error that the abstraction >> isn't found. >> >> Mattijs >> _______________________________________________ >> maxmsp mailing list >> maxmsp@cycling74.com >> http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > > Cheers > Gary Lee Nelson > Oberlin College > www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From aka at iamas.ac.jp Sat Feb 2 21:30:24 2008 From: aka at iamas.ac.jp (Masayuki Akamatsu) Date: Sat Feb 2 21:30:31 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: References: <1f32a.47a3405c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Hi, On 2008/02/02, at 19:57, jennek geels wrote: > you might try to wake the mac using "wake on LAN" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN It's useful information. I success it with aka.datagram & udpsend. Check the attached patch. Of course, you have to change 'MAC address' and 'Broadcast address' as your network environment. Thanks, Masayuki -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WakeOnLan-test.pat.zip Type: application/zip Size: 974 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20080203/1caf980c/WakeOnLan-test.pat.zip -------------- next part -------------- From mopppish at yahoo.com Sat Feb 2 23:29:52 2008 From: mopppish at yahoo.com (Eric Sheffield) Date: Sat Feb 2 23:29:59 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] woohoo! it's over! Message-ID: <1f396.47a55f5b@www.cycling74.com> I'm just cooling down from playing my senior recital, which included 3 instances of MaxMSP patching (and 2 instances of Jitter). One was an improv with some synthesis (triggered via MIDI drum pad) and looping, another was a solo percussion piece with electronics, and the last was a loop based arrangement of Aphex Twin's Bucephalus Bouncing Ball. The jitter was two wonderful video accompaniments done by my beautiful, talented girlfriend. Anyway, I'm just posting this to celebrate and to tell Cycling 74 to bring on Max 5 already so I can do more cool stuff! From dbarnes at waypt.com Sun Feb 3 00:09:59 2008 From: dbarnes at waypt.com (Danny Barnes) Date: Sun Feb 3 00:10:03 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f32c.47a3472e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f397.47a568c6@www.cycling74.com> thank you so very much for the answers. you all have given me so much to work on and think about. i sure appreciate it. danny barnes -- My smile is stuck I cannot go back to your frownland. Captain Beefheart From keithmanlove at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 06:45:59 2008 From: keithmanlove at gmail.com (Keith Manlove) Date: Sun Feb 3 06:46:49 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] woohoo! it's over! In-Reply-To: <1f396.47a55f5b@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f396.47a55f5b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: Hey Eric, It's Keith Manlove. Hope you're doing well. Congratulations on the recital. Sounds like it was pretty exciting. Say hi to Jeff for me. Keith On Feb 3, 2008, at 12:29 AM, Eric Sheffield wrote: > > I'm just cooling down from playing my senior recital, which included > 3 instances of MaxMSP patching (and 2 instances of Jitter). One was > an improv with some synthesis (triggered via MIDI drum pad) and > looping, another was a solo percussion piece with electronics, and > the last was a loop based arrangement of Aphex Twin's Bucephalus > Bouncing Ball. The jitter was two wonderful video accompaniments > done by my beautiful, talented girlfriend. > Anyway, I'm just posting this to celebrate and to tell Cycling 74 to > bring on Max 5 already so I can do more cool stuff! > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Sun Feb 3 07:06:41 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Sun Feb 3 07:06:47 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <0A1BA260-C6B5-4861-938F-767397091816@mac.com> Message-ID: <1f3a3.47a5ca70@www.cycling74.com> Quote: vade wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 02:32 ---------------------------------------------------- > Yes, sorry, it adds the FOLDER, not the subfolders. I was remembering > incorrectly, as I dont normally worry about it and have procedurally > created hard coded paths with my module loading system, so I can NOT > think about it. > Actually things wouldn't be so bad if it was possible to use the relative path to the subfolder, as in [subfolder/jeanclaudevandamme]. But that doesn't work either. Mattijs From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Sun Feb 3 08:35:57 2008 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Sun Feb 3 08:36:09 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: snare rush / drum roll In-Reply-To: <1f378.47a49a7a@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f378.47a49a7a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A5DF5D.2090908@addcom.de> James schrieb: > im still not sure how to get the comma in there ive never used the > trigger object before not entirely sure how it works. The trigger object [t] is the most important object in Max. If you haven't used it yet, you either need to do the tutorials first, or do them again. Its more than essential, you'll never get a bug free patch if you don't know how to control the order of events... To learn about commas in message boxes, its also usefull to attach a print object to the message box with that comma, to see in the max window what it does if you click on the message box... (hint: there is more than one possibility to get the same result...) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Sun Feb 3 09:44:48 2008 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Sun Feb 3 09:45:00 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f361.47a460de@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f361.47a460de@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A5EF80.3040000@addcom.de> Mattijs Kneppers schrieb: > Um, as far as I know patches in subfolders are not found by max > unless you put that subfolder explicitly in the search path. If I'm > wrong, I'd love to know! Yes, though always advertised it never worked. I tell them to place it or an alias into the patches folder, which is easy enough... But the recent thread about a patch which will add to the search path might do it. You double click the patch to add the search path, and the same will load the main patch afterwards. One could also have a test subpatcher, if its found will interupt the following sequence: add the folder to the search path, restart the patch, close the non complete patch from the forst attempt... But the error messages in the Max window will remain... Probably its too much hassle... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Sun Feb 3 10:45:03 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Sun Feb 3 10:45:06 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <47A5EF80.3040000@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1f3ad.47a5fd9f@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 17:44 ---------------------------------------------------- > I tell them to place it > or an alias into the patches folder, which is easy enough... No, this is bad practice. If you have multiple versions of the same abstraction hidden in the depths of the patches folder you will never know which one is loaded. And yeah, the patches folder is advertised in the manual. It shouldn't be. > > But the recent thread about a patch which will add to the search path > might do it. You double click the patch to add the search path, and the > same will load the main patch afterwards. Yeah, I still have to try that idea. It doesn't feel good though, looking at the sometimes-synchronous-sometimes-not behaviour when creating larger abstractions with scripting.. Mattijs From kasper at club-internet.fr Sun Feb 3 11:38:38 2008 From: kasper at club-internet.fr (Kasper T Toeplitz) Date: Sun Feb 3 11:39:47 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Basic question 'bout sending data mac2mac via terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I just did a small benchmark on mxj net.maxhole. Two computers side by side >wirelessly communicating through the same airport. The receiver drops about >3 out of ten counts and the others show substantial timing errors. > >This issue was discussed a lot a few months ago. My preferred solution is >an ethernet hub connecting all of the cooperating machines. hi my experience is different - instead of wirelessly communicating through the same airport, i create (on one mac) a "local network" (with a freely chosen name) and it works we very often do it here with 3 macs, and do not experience any problems (that is except once, during our first concert , but this should be close to "normal" ;-) - and i was the only one having problems, but then i have the oldest mac, PPC, when the other 2 are intel) if you create the network before starting max, it works - and yes, we have a piece in which we use this system to have one of the players starting the processing (and timer) on all 3 machines writing this i am testing you patch between 2 macs (both PPC) side by side, wirelessely communicating without any external aiport-box. With teh metro at 18 it does not drop anything - and i am sendig infos both ways... best kasper -- Kasper T. Toeplitz noise, composition, bass, computer http://www.sleazeArt.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Sun Feb 3 12:03:20 2008 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Sun Feb 3 12:03:28 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f3ad.47a5fd9f@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3ad.47a5fd9f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A60FF8.6010002@addcom.de> Mattijs Kneppers schrieb: > No, this is bad practice. If you have multiple versions of the same > abstraction hidden in the depths of the patches folder you will never > know which one is loaded. And yeah, the patches folder is advertised > in the manual. It shouldn't be. Though in most cases they have just my patch to run in MaxPlay. Its less of a danger than in my own environment. And it wouldn't change anything if they'd just add the folder to the search path, search path is search path no matter if its in the patches folder or elsewhere. And Murphy tought me, that its always the wrong version loading if you have several of them no matter where you place it... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu Sun Feb 3 12:32:33 2008 From: Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu (Gary Lee Nelson) Date: Sun Feb 3 12:33:45 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Basic question 'bout sending data mac2mac via terminal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just ran a modified benchmark with an Intel sending and a PPC receiving on a local wireless network established on the Intel. A counter ticking every 500 MS produces the following results... rint: 0 0 print: 1 494 <- small timing error missing 2, 3, 4 print: 5 2000 <- timing correct (1500 between count 2 and 5) print: 7 1000 print: 8 500 print: 10 1000 print: 13 1500 print: 14 500 print: 16 1000 print: 17 502 <- smaller timing error print: 18 500 print: 20 998 print: 21 500 print: 23 1002 print: 25 1000 print: 27 1000 print: 28 500 print: 29 500 print: 30 500 print: 31 502 print: 32 498 print: 33 500 print: 34 500 print: 35 500 print: 36 502 print: 39 1498 print: 41 1000 print: 42 500 On 2/3/08 1:38 PM, "Kasper T Toeplitz" wrote: >> I just did a small benchmark on mxj net.maxhole. Two computers side by side >> wirelessly communicating through the same airport. The receiver drops about >> 3 out of ten counts and the others show substantial timing errors. >> >> This issue was discussed a lot a few months ago. My preferred solution is >> an ethernet hub connecting all of the cooperating machines. > > > hi > > my experience is different - instead of wirelessly communicating > through the same airport, i create (on one mac) a "local network" > (with a freely chosen name) and it works > > we very often do it here with 3 macs, and do not experience any > problems (that is except once, during our first concert , but this > should be close to "normal" ;-) - and i was the only one having > problems, but then i have the oldest mac, PPC, when the other 2 are > intel) > > if you create the network before starting max, it works - and yes, we > have a piece in which we use this system to have one of the players > starting the processing (and timer) on all 3 machines > > writing this i am testing you patch between 2 macs (both PPC) side by > side, wirelessely communicating without any external aiport-box. With > teh metro at 18 it does not drop anything - and i am sendig infos > both ways... > > best > > kasper Cheers Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson From doktorp at mac.com Sun Feb 3 12:35:54 2008 From: doktorp at mac.com (vade) Date: Sun Feb 3 12:36:02 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <47A60FF8.6010002@addcom.de> References: <1f3ad.47a5fd9f@www.cycling74.com> <47A60FF8.6010002@addcom.de> Message-ID: My workaround for this particular problem is module loading at patch runtime. Any subpatches I need are kept in a module folder, which is specified in my patch as an argument to my module loading abstraction. When the patch is run it searches the modules folder and makes a full path to the subpatch. This removes any issues with file path issues or duplicate names, as the path is hard coded, etc. it works, but makes loading a bit slower with larger amounts of modules. just my 2.c workaround :) On Feb 3, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Mattijs Kneppers schrieb: >> No, this is bad practice. If you have multiple versions of the same >> abstraction hidden in the depths of the patches folder you will never >> know which one is loaded. And yeah, the patches folder is advertised >> in the manual. It shouldn't be. > > Though in most cases they have just my patch to run in MaxPlay. Its > less of a danger than in my own environment. And it wouldn't change > anything if they'd just add the folder to the search path, search > path is search path no matter if its in the patches folder or > elsewhere. And Murphy tought me, that its always the wrong version > loading if you have several of them no matter where you place > it... ;-) > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From julien.rabin at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 12:53:16 2008 From: julien.rabin at gmail.com (jln) Date: Sun Feb 3 12:53:20 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f3ad.47a5fd9f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3c8.47a61bac@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Mattijs wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 18:45 > Yeah, I still have to try that idea. It doesn't feel good though, looking at the sometimes-synchronous-sometimes-not behaviour when creating larger abstractions with scripting.. I'm not sure I get what you mean here. To what extend the "sometimes-synchronous-sometimes-not" behaviour would cause problems using the strategy mentioned. When all the scripting part happens in the main patch, all paths are in Max's search preferences (until it is restarted), no ? I attach what I often use. I never had some troubles but never did a big patch involving a lot of scripting so maybe I'm missing something... Best, Julien. From wouterverbiest at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 12:54:35 2008 From: wouterverbiest at gmail.com (Wouter Verbiest) Date: Sun Feb 3 12:54:43 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f3c9.47a61bfb@www.cycling74.com> Thanks Masayuki! But..what attached patch do you mean...? From pencilina at verizon.net Sun Feb 3 14:20:36 2008 From: pencilina at verizon.net (Bradford Reed) Date: Sun Feb 3 14:20:39 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f32c.47a3472e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3cf.47a63023@www.cycling74.com> BTW, I've had problems in the past with max being confused and crashing when there's multiple patches with the same name in the search patch. Say a couple folders with different versions of a project with some of the same named patches. C74 tech support helped me figure this out as I used to have all my patches in the search path. Now I'm more strategic. best b -- Chief Pencilina Operator and Manager http://pencilina.com/ From mopppish at yahoo.com Sun Feb 3 15:03:22 2008 From: mopppish at yahoo.com (Eric Sheffield) Date: Sun Feb 3 15:03:27 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: woohoo! it's over! In-Reply-To: <1f396.47a55f5b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3d2.47a63a29@www.cycling74.com> Hey! Thanks, Keith. It was a lot of fun, but I'm glad it's over. I think I lost the audience with most of the stuff, but they all really dug the Aphex Twin cover, which was nothing but a bunch of loops. It was kind of the intentional crowd pleaser to end the recital with. Of course, most people couldn't get over the fact that I was controlling the loops with a wii remote. Take care, Eric From adamjmurray at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 15:21:31 2008 From: adamjmurray at gmail.com (Adam Murray) Date: Sun Feb 3 15:21:36 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Mac OS 10.5 Leopard Support In-Reply-To: <1f266.47a034be@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3d3.47a63e69@www.cycling74.com> I took the plunge this weekend and upgraded to Leopard. I am happy to say everything I use is working fine. I've tried a bunch of my Max/MSP/Jitter patches with no problems. My Java externals work fine. Note that I am not using any 3rd party externals yet, and it sounds like most people's problems are caused by various externals. Max and Logic Pro 8 are still playing nice together (as nice as can be expected - I assume there are still timing problems with IAC bus + ReWire). Pluggo plug-ins are running in Logic. I was most concerned about hardware drivers. I am using the following devices with no problems: * Monome 40h * Evolution UC-33e * M-Audio Oxygen 8 * M-Audio Uno * Line6 PODxt So I am in really good shape here on Leopard. Now if only I could get my hands on Max 5 I would be in heaven :) -Adam From seanzshow at hotmail.com Sun Feb 3 15:23:58 2008 From: seanzshow at hotmail.com (seanzshow) Date: Sun Feb 3 15:24:02 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: sampler instrument In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f3d4.47a63efe@www.cycling74.com> check the waveform~ object aswell for extra funkyness From tedor2 at citromail.hu Sun Feb 3 15:32:26 2008 From: tedor2 at citromail.hu (tedor) Date: Sun Feb 3 15:32:32 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Sound in space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f3d5.47a640fa@www.cycling74.com> hmmm.... thank you for that Tom , I am trying to figure it out how this external works.. I think it needs more channels (8) as I wanted to use. I was thinking about how to use spacial sounds within stereo channeling. I hope it is possible somehow... I am on it... thanks tEd From tedor2 at citromail.hu Sun Feb 3 15:39:11 2008 From: tedor2 at citromail.hu (tedor) Date: Sun Feb 3 15:39:15 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Sound in space In-Reply-To: <1f2ae.47a1a776@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3d6.47a6428e@www.cycling74.com> ...sorry, it works in a way now... I am investigating it, cool! From nick at cassiel.com Sun Feb 3 15:47:27 2008 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Sun Feb 3 15:47:34 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Mac OS 10.5 Leopard Support In-Reply-To: <1f3d3.47a63e69@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3d3.47a63e69@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <40C84DFB-851F-4B9A-AE6B-3A8993C6EE35@cassiel.com> On 3 Feb 2008, at 22:21, Adam Murray wrote: > I took the plunge this weekend and upgraded to Leopard. I am happy > to say everything I use is working fine. Same here. I was forced into a Leopard upgrade since a colleague of mine is doing a lot of quite tense OpenGL stuff, and Leopard has influenced that. (Oh, and let's not start on Java 6...) Leopard seems neater and faster than Tiger, and I like the styling. (But I also like "cover flow", so I must be easily amused.) Well, the Mark/Space utils for my Treo threw their toys out of the pram the first time I tried a sync, but it all seems happy now. Xcode 3 seems to compile MaxMSP externals cleanly. (Perhaps I should actually try to load them?) -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.last.fm/music/cassiel www.reverbnation.com/cassiel www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel www.loadbang.net From tedor2 at citromail.hu Sun Feb 3 16:13:57 2008 From: tedor2 at citromail.hu (tedor) Date: Sun Feb 3 16:14:04 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Sound in space In-Reply-To: <1f2ae.47a1a776@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3db.47a64ab4@www.cycling74.com> I think I need at least four channels for this object... I found something about Ambisonic UHJ format. Do you think there is something for this object, so the sound movements can be still recognizable in stereo? cheers From tomgalileo at mac.com Sun Feb 3 16:52:29 2008 From: tomgalileo at mac.com (TomGalileo) Date: Sun Feb 3 16:52:39 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Sound in space In-Reply-To: <1f3d6.47a6428e@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3d6.47a6428e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: i love it On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:39 PM, tedor wrote: > > ...sorry, it works in a way now... > I am investigating it, cool! > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From tomgalileo at mac.com Sun Feb 3 16:55:01 2008 From: tomgalileo at mac.com (TomGalileo) Date: Sun Feb 3 16:55:12 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Sound in space In-Reply-To: <1f3db.47a64ab4@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3db.47a64ab4@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <34DF3A6E-3023-4B44-B428-F3C87B4BBA4F@mac.com> there are binaural techinques i'm studying with a guy that developed the algorithm for that that convert whatever ambisonic format to binaural with buffir objects and cutting frequencies wit different head models... but it's a bit complicated... and its to be used with headphones , not in stereo On Feb 3, 2008, at 11:13 PM, tedor wrote: > > I think I need at least four channels for this object... I found > something about Ambisonic UHJ format. Do you think there is > something for this object, so the sound movements can be still > recognizable in stereo? > > cheers > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp From aka at iamas.ac.jp Sun Feb 3 17:23:21 2008 From: aka at iamas.ac.jp (Masayuki Akamatsu) Date: Sun Feb 3 17:23:29 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <1f3c9.47a61bfb@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3c9.47a61bfb@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 2008/02/04, at 4:54, Wouter Verbiest wrote: > But..what attached patch do you mean...? You can wake another sleeping Mac (maybe PC too) up with that patch. (I made spelling mistakes. sorry) Connect two computers to LAN ( with Ehternet cables ). Change the message to a sleeping computer's MAC address ( of Ethernet chip ). MAC address is normally expressed in a hexadecimal with colon ( ex. 00:0a:95:c4:a9:56 ) but you have to express it in a decimal and comma ( ex. 0, 10, 149, 196, 169, 86 ) in this patch. And click the button. The broadcast address 255.255.255.255 will work but it's better to change it according to your subnet address. Don't change the port number 6. Cheers, Masayuki From queglay at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 3 17:31:39 2008 From: queglay at yahoo.co.uk (blairell) Date: Sun Feb 3 17:31:44 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] how can i send custom text messages to the mcu display via midi Message-ID: <1f3e2.47a65cea@www.cycling74.com> hey guys. i was wondering if there is any information on how the text protocol work for the mcu display works. i wanted to send a few basic text strings to it via midi. thanks for any help or advice! From queglay at yahoo.co.uk Sun Feb 3 19:41:12 2008 From: queglay at yahoo.co.uk (blairell) Date: Sun Feb 3 19:41:19 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Live API In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f3e6.47a67b48@www.cycling74.com> this is really interesting. has anyone done any thing between max and ableton in terms of getting clip names and states to max with this one? im just starting to get into the live api stuff. the liveapi.org site is now taken down though. and only has a bit of evidence left over on the google forums. From tristaaan at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 21:37:17 2008 From: tristaaan at gmail.com (Tristan Coleman) Date: Sun Feb 3 21:37:20 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: rewire max and live woes In-Reply-To: <1e187.4759c5a3@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3ec.47a6967b@www.cycling74.com> Hi there, I am having very similar problems. Using rewire for the first time, attempting to get ableton live to run in slave mode. Does anyone out there have a solution, or will we just have to wait for Max/MSP 5 before there is proper integration between the two platforms? From nmariette at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 23:10:27 2008 From: nmariette at gmail.com (Nick Mariette) Date: Sun Feb 3 23:10:52 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Binaural localisation experiment in Max/MSP Message-ID: hi max listers, My name's Nick Mariette and I'm presently completing a PhD on perception of binaural spatial audio for mobile augmented reality. As part of my research, I've produced a static localisation experiment for self-guided participants, which I implemented in Max/MSP. The software replicates a fairly standard sound localisation experiment using pre-rendered stimuli using a range of relatively simple binaural rendering methods. Stimuli quality vary deliberately and some stimuli were recorded from real-time processes implemented in Pd and others from Matlab. I'd like to open up the call for participants to the list. More information is at this website: http://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~nickm/index.php? Research::Static_Localisation_Experiment It takes about 15 minutes and you can do the experiment on your own computer (windows or mac osx). If you're interested, you can download Windows and Mac OSX versions of the experiment software from the following URLs, or via links on the website above. Windows: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~nickm/downloads/localisation_experiment- win.zip Mac OS X: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~nickm/downloads/ localisation_experiment.app.zip If you do the experiment, please read the instructions first (on the website, or in the software). Please also email me back for a participant consent form which is necessary due to Ethics committee requirements. You can consent simply by replying to the email I deliver with the consent form. I hope you can help! And feel free to email me with any questions. cheers Nick Mariette http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~nickm/ http://soundsorange.net From kooki415 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 3 23:39:55 2008 From: kooki415 at hotmail.com (Colin Wright) Date: Sun Feb 3 23:39:59 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: rewire max and live woes In-Reply-To: <1e187.4759c5a3@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3f1.47a6b33a@www.cycling74.com> get soundflower (its free!) and spare yourself the colossal headache that is rewire. From amokan at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 23:42:25 2008 From: amokan at gmail.com (Adam Mokan) Date: Sun Feb 3 23:42:30 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] combo box Message-ID: <1f3f2.47a6b3cf@www.cycling74.com> I've messed around with umenu but I was wondering if there is a combo box (dropdown) object that allows you to specify each items text and a different underlying value. Thanks. From cbm at well.com Mon Feb 4 00:38:02 2008 From: cbm at well.com (Chris Muir) Date: Mon Feb 4 00:38:06 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] combo box In-Reply-To: <1f3f2.47a6b3cf@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3f2.47a6b3cf@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <88104E68-9358-4FA0-A7F0-9D611DB31F43@well.com> On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Adam Mokan wrote: > I've messed around with umenu but I was wondering if there is a > combo box (dropdown) object that allows you to specify each items > text and a different underlying value. I don't think that there is, but it's really easy implement with something like coll. You could either use the index of the menu to grab things out of coll, or with the restriction of not having spaces in the menu data, you could use the symbols to look up into coll, which has the advantage of the coll not being dependent on the order of things in the menu. -C From alljvkr at jvkr.nl Mon Feb 4 01:01:52 2008 From: alljvkr at jvkr.nl (jvkr) Date: Mon Feb 4 01:01:56 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: combo box In-Reply-To: <1f3f2.47a6b3cf@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3f5.47a6c670@www.cycling74.com> jit.celblock might be what you're looking for. Once I implemented something similar in an lcd. The index.pat abstraction makes use of this (http://www.jvkr.nl/shelves). _ johan From spears at 2secondfuse.com Mon Feb 4 01:13:18 2008 From: spears at 2secondfuse.com (Vlad Spears) Date: Mon Feb 4 01:14:13 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] combo box In-Reply-To: <1f3f2.47a6b3cf@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3f2.47a6b3cf@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <13328F6B-0C4E-480C-87AE-A477FBAF14B4@2secondfuse.com> On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Adam Mokan wrote: > I've messed around with umenu but I was wondering if there is a > combo box (dropdown) object that allows you to specify each items > text and a different underlying value. If I understand correctly, I think you could use one [ubumenu] for the visible interface, and another hidden [ubumenu] controlled by the index of the first which would contain your list of underlying values. You just need to keep their contents synchronized. I've done this when I didn't want to mess around with [coll]. Vlad Spears Tanj! 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URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20080204/a3ac79c3/attachment.htm From tedor2 at citromail.hu Mon Feb 4 01:51:40 2008 From: tedor2 at citromail.hu (tedor) Date: Mon Feb 4 01:51:50 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Sound in space In-Reply-To: <34DF3A6E-3023-4B44-B428-F3C87B4BBA4F@mac.com> Message-ID: <1f3f8.47a6d21b@www.cycling74.com> hi Tom, ok, I would be also happy to use this object with binaural technic as well, I meditate with binaural beats... so it is possible I learn some new aspects of it... ... could you send me a link, please, where I can download this binaural object, what works with the aforementioned ambisonics external? ... if I can not hear spacial sound in the stereo speaker, I will use the headphones...:) all the best, krisztian From nick at cassiel.com Mon Feb 4 02:00:50 2008 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Mon Feb 4 02:00:44 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Live API In-Reply-To: <1f3e6.47a67b48@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3e6.47a67b48@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 4 Feb 2008, at 02:41, blairell wrote: > this is really interesting. has anyone done any thing between max > and ableton in terms of getting clip names and states to max with > this one? Last time I checked, the API was Windows-only - so, no. -- N. nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// www.cassiel.com From cbm at well.com Mon Feb 4 02:08:03 2008 From: cbm at well.com (Chris Muir) Date: Mon Feb 4 02:08:07 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] combo box In-Reply-To: <13328F6B-0C4E-480C-87AE-A477FBAF14B4@2secondfuse.com> References: <1f3f2.47a6b3cf@www.cycling74.com> <13328F6B-0C4E-480C-87AE-A477FBAF14B4@2secondfuse.com> Message-ID: On Feb 4, 2008, at 12:13 AM, Vlad Spears wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Adam Mokan wrote: > >> I've messed around with umenu but I was wondering if there is a >> combo box (dropdown) object that allows you to specify each items >> text and a different underlying value. > > If I understand correctly, I think you could use one [ubumenu] for > the visible interface, and another hidden [ubumenu] controlled by > the index of the first which would contain your list of underlying > values. You just need to keep their contents synchronized. I've > done this when I didn't want to mess around with [coll]. Keeping things in sync can be a pita, though. If you construct your menu such that you can use the text as a symbol lookup into coll, you can change the order of things in the menu without caring what order they are stored in the coll: #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 234 154 284 196617 <- data does not need to be stored in the same order as menu; #P newex 153 177 69 196617 route symbol; #P message 153 228 97 196617 Thr33; #P newex 153 205 62 196617 prepend set; #P number 63 135 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 153 131 80 196617 prepend symbol; #N coll menuVals 1; #T flags 1 0; #T store Third thing Thr33; #T store First thing Uno; #T store Second thing 2; #P newobj 153 153 80 196617 coll menuVals 1; #P user umenu 63 107 100 196647 1 64 123 1; #X add First thing; #X add Second thing; #X add Third thing; #P comment 165 108 284 196617 <- no spaces \, only non-breaking spaces (option-space); #P connect 1 0 4 0; #P connect 1 1 3 0; #P connect 3 0 2 0; #P connect 2 0 7 0; #P connect 7 1 5 0; #P connect 7 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P window clipboard copycount 9; From lister at sonicescape.net Mon Feb 4 02:30:38 2008 From: lister at sonicescape.net (Jakob Riis) Date: Mon Feb 4 02:30:51 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] udp Message-ID: <20080204093038.713810216@mail2.bahnhof.se> Hi - I'm using udpsend and udpreceive for a network instrument. New problem is that the other player is now on a network were he can't access the router. I guess I can check for open ports, but does any of you know a way to see from the outside which local IP a computer is at - and send to it? /J _______________________________________________ jr.abstractions for MaxMSP - new version (2008-01-15) http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/ _______________________________________________ From gaussroms at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 02:39:15 2008 From: gaussroms at gmail.com (petterdass) Date: Mon Feb 4 02:39:19 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: simple synth patches like 909 kicks etc In-Reply-To: <1be37e680802010359qe73136lbd457463428e4df4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f3fc.47a6dd42@www.cycling74.com> Hi JAHroen! Thanks for the patches! I would much like to look at your kick drum also! Cheers From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Feb 4 02:54:55 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Feb 4 02:55:00 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f3c8.47a61bac@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3fd.47a6e0ee@www.cycling74.com> Quote: jln wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 20:53 ---------------------------------------------------- > Quote: Mattijs wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 18:45 > > > Yeah, I still have to try that idea. It doesn't feel good though, looking at the sometimes-synchronous-sometimes-not behaviour when creating larger abstractions with scripting.. > > I'm not sure I get what you mean here. To what extend the "sometimes-synchronous-sometimes-not" behaviour would cause problems using the strategy mentioned. When all the scripting part happens in the main patch, all paths are in Max's search preferences (until it is restarted), no ? Ah no it was more of a general statement, patches loading other patches sounds unreliable. A bit too general, perhaps. I'll try it first. Mattijs From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Feb 4 02:55:21 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Feb 4 02:55:27 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f3cb.47a61c87@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3fe.47a6e109@www.cycling74.com> Quote: jln wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 20:56 ---------------------------------------------------- > Argh. Forgot to click 'upload file'... > > Sorry. Here it is. > > Julien ---------------------------------------------------- This is a nice example, thanks for sharing! Mattijs From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Feb 4 03:31:14 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Feb 4 03:31:45 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f3c8.47a61bac@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f3ff.47a6e962@www.cycling74.com> Ok, I've been checking with a big patch that also does a fair amount of scripting on load and so far your solution seems to work great! Thanks again :) Btw by relying on synchronous events I think you could slightly simplify your patch: #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 163 206 25 196617 iter; #P window linecount 2; #P message 163 174 347 196617 Sources/Images Sources/Librairie Sources/Preferences Sources/Presets Sources/Sons Sources/Sons/bank_1 Sources/Sons/bank_2; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 111 75 88 196617 t dispose b b path; #P newex 163 281 27 196617 t b l; #P newex 163 311 36 196617 zl reg; #P newex 163 422 51 196617 tosymbol; #P newex 163 395 72 196617 sprintf %s%s; #P newex 163 484 78 196617 prepend append; #P newex 163 521 98 196617 filepath search 100; #P newex 48 538 47 196617 pcontrol; #P newex 48 407 66 196617 prepend load; #P message 48 321 80 196617 real_patch.mxb; #P newex 175 452 153 196617 print "@ Patch :: paths loading"; #N thispatcher; #Q end; #P newobj 189 124 61 196617 thispatcher; #P newex 111 43 48 196617 loadbang; #P connect 9 0 7 0; #P connect 9 0 2 0; #P connect 12 2 13 0; #P connect 14 0 11 0; #P connect 13 0 14 0; #P connect 12 1 3 0; #P connect 12 3 1 0; #P connect 12 0 1 0; #P connect 0 0 12 0; #P connect 1 1 10 1; #P connect 11 1 8 1; #P fasten 7 0 6 0 168 518 168 518; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 11 0 10 0; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P window clipboard copycount 15; Mattijs Quote: jln wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 20:53 ---------------------------------------------------- > Quote: Mattijs wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 18:45 > > > Yeah, I still have to try that idea. It doesn't feel good though, looking at the sometimes-synchronous-sometimes-not behaviour when creating larger abstractions with scripting.. > > I'm not sure I get what you mean here. To what extend the "sometimes-synchronous-sometimes-not" behaviour would cause problems using the strategy mentioned. When all the scripting part happens in the main patch, all paths are in Max's search preferences (until it is restarted), no ? > > I attach what I often use. I never had some troubles but never did a big patch involving a lot of scripting so maybe I'm missing something... > > Best, > Julien. ---------------------------------------------------- From nick at cassiel.com Mon Feb 4 03:40:05 2008 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Mon Feb 4 03:40:12 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] udp In-Reply-To: <20080204093038.713810216@mail2.bahnhof.se> References: <20080204093038.713810216@mail2.bahnhof.se> Message-ID: <6067FBDD-8E0D-4DD3-8570-08991574F4FE@cassiel.com> On 4 Feb 2008, at 09:30, Jakob Riis wrote: > I guess I can check for open ports, but does any of > you know a way to see from the outside which local IP a computer is > at - > and send to it? Knowing the local IP of the recipient isn't much use to you - the address is, after all, local. You need to program the router so that it forwards packets coming to its external IP on a particular port to the particular local IP. (It's usually called "Reverse NAT.") -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.last.fm/music/cassiel www.reverbnation.com/cassiel www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel www.loadbang.net From pdelges at radiantslab.com Mon Feb 4 03:59:08 2008 From: pdelges at radiantslab.com (Patrick Delges) Date: Mon Feb 4 03:59:14 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] udp In-Reply-To: <20080204093038.713810216@mail2.bahnhof.se> References: <20080204093038.713810216@mail2.bahnhof.se> Message-ID: On 4 f?vr. 08, at 10:30, Jakob Riis wrote: > Hi - I'm using udpsend and udpreceive for a network instrument. > New problem is that the other player is now on a network were he can't > access the router. I guess I can check for open ports, but does any of > you know a way to see from the outside which local IP a computer is > at - > and send to it? > /J If your 2 computers are on 2 different local networks with local IP (like 192.168.0.*), then you need to add a rule to the router. The idea is to forward datas with a specific port to a specific computer/IP address. If you do bidirectionnal communication, you'll have to add such a rule on both routers. If the IPs change (because you use DHCP on the local networks), you could use a service like DynDNS, or program your router so that your machines always reveice the same IP, or simply use static IPs. _____________________________ Patrick Delges Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl http://www.crfmw.be/max From notyouraveragejoe at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 04:05:16 2008 From: notyouraveragejoe at gmail.com (Joe Bicker) Date: Mon Feb 4 04:05:21 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] sampler instrument In-Reply-To: <1f231.479f2e1d@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f231.479f2e1d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <9410d3a0802040305g79079ffn523b2d0e34334ac9@mail.gmail.com> Are you at Huddersfield uni? I remember being set that task in my second year of Interactive Sound Design. On 29/01/2008, bean wrote: > > > hey all, i am new to max and have been assigned a project to create a > monophonic sampler instrument that can be controlled by a midi keyboard. you > should be able to load an audio file into the sampler and then play using a > midi keyboard. like i say, i am very new to max and would greatly appreciate > it if anyone had and tips to start me out? > cheers in advance > richard > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/maxmsp/attachments/20080204/1aca95bc/attachment.htm From julien.rabin at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 04:35:47 2008 From: julien.rabin at gmail.com (Rabin Julien) Date: Mon Feb 4 04:35:59 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f3ff.47a6e962@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3ff.47a6e962@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <78BD9469-9C02-4E43-9725-8D0757BD00C6@gmail.com> Le 4 f?vr. 08 ? 11:31, Mattijs Kneppers a ?crit : > Ok, I've been checking with a big patch that also does a fair amount > of scripting on load and so far your solution seems to work great! > Thanks again :) > > Btw by relying on synchronous events I think you could slightly > simplify your patch: > > #P Thanks. I'm glad I can help. You're right. I often use this template from an old project but indeed, I should have optimized it since. Looking at it again, the '100' argument should be removed from [filepath] so paths are not saved in Max's preferences on quit. It's not a big problem but I guess people don't want their preferences to be changed by my patch. The reason I send the 'dispose' message from the main patch is only cosmetic. As I use the launcher patch as a pseudo appsplash, I like seeing it going away only when the main patch is ready and fully initialized. Adding a slider in the launcher showing the progress of the main patch initialization is also rather neat. :-) Best, Julien. From lister at sonicescape.net Mon Feb 4 04:57:25 2008 From: lister at sonicescape.net (Jakob Riis) Date: Mon Feb 4 04:57:38 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] udp In-Reply-To: <6067FBDD-8E0D-4DD3-8570-08991574F4FE@cassiel.com> References: <20080204093038.713810216@mail2.bahnhof.se> <6067FBDD-8E0D-4DD3-8570-08991574F4FE@cassiel.com> Message-ID: <20080204115725.1004459130@mail2.bahnhof.se> Yes, we use do bidirectionnal communication. But since we don't have access to the routers on one both sides, I guess its a no go! Thanks for the help anyway. /J From alljvkr at jvkr.nl Mon Feb 4 04:59:25 2008 From: alljvkr at jvkr.nl (jvkr) Date: Mon Feb 4 04:59:29 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f3fe.47a6e109@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f408.47a6fe1b@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Mattijs wrote on Mon, 04 February 2008 10:55 ---------------------------------------------------- > Quote: jln wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 20:56 > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Argh. Forgot to click 'upload file'... > > > > Sorry. Here it is. > > > > Julien > ---------------------------------------------------- > > This is a nice example, thanks for sharing! > > Mattijs ---------------------------------------------------- This is going to be very helpful indeed, thanks. Allow me to suggest a version that doesn't rely on a fixed folder structure. _ johan #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 64 242 50 196617 deferlow; #P newex 49 158 40 196617 uzi; #P newex 260 261 27 196617 - 1; #P newex 260 242 27 196617 i; #P newex 277 223 72 196617 route populate; #P newex 59 48 52 196617 t b path b; #P newex 59 29 48 196617 loadbang; #P newex 90 132 51 196617 tosymbol; #P newex 90 158 76 196617 prepend prefix; #P message 101 108 173 196617 types fold \, autopopulate 1 \, depth 99; #P user ubumenu 101 186 186 196617 0 1 1 0; #X types fold; #X prefix_set 0 0 HDsix:/Users/bea6/Documents/Downloads/testMaxLoader/ 99; #P newex 64 223 58 196617 t dispose b; #P newex 189 204 78 196617 prepend append; #P newex 189 223 86 196617 filepath search 0; #P newex 121 286 47 196617 pcontrol; #P newex 121 267 66 196617 prepend load; #P message 121 250 80 196617 real_patch.mxb; #P newex 227 286 153 196617 print "@ Patch :: paths loading"; #N thispatcher; #Q end; #P newobj 39 106 61 196617 thispatcher; #P connect 8 1 6 0; #P connect 8 1 1 0; #P connect 14 0 15 1; #P connect 8 2 14 0; #P connect 15 0 16 0; #P connect 13 0 15 0; #P connect 6 0 5 0; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 7 1 2 0; #P connect 17 2 8 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 13 2 9 0; #P connect 11 0 10 0; #P connect 0 1 11 0; #P connect 7 0 18 0; #P connect 17 1 7 0; #P connect 12 0 13 0; #P connect 16 0 17 0; #P fasten 18 0 0 0 69 265 19 265 19 95 44 95; #P connect 13 1 0 0; #P window clipboard copycount 19; From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Feb 4 05:02:01 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Feb 4 05:02:06 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <78BD9469-9C02-4E43-9725-8D0757BD00C6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f409.47a6feb8@www.cycling74.com> Quote: jln wrote on Mon, 04 February 2008 12:35 ---------------------------------------------------- > the > '100' argument should be removed from [filepath] so paths are not > saved in Max's preferences on quit. It's not a big problem but I guess > people don't want their preferences to be changed by my patch. Actually I see a reason not to remove the 100. This way, it will not be a problem to open an older version of your patch first and then load a newer version without restarting max. If you remove the 100 there is a chance that the newer version will use files from the older version because the paths of the older version aren't overwritten. > > The reason I send the 'dispose' message from the main patch is only > cosmetic. As I use the launcher patch as a pseudo appsplash, I like > seeing it going away only when the main patch is ready and fully > initialized. Ah, I see. But that would also require a delay before loading the real patch. I don't get a graphics update until everything is loaded. Adding a slider in the launcher showing the progress of > the main patch initialization is also rather neat. :-) As far as I can see for this to work you'd need the graphics redraws to happen in a separate thread, which unfortunately isn't the case in max. Best, Mattijs From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Feb 4 05:04:48 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Feb 4 05:04:53 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f408.47a6fe1b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f40a.47a6ff60@www.cycling74.com> Quote: jvkr wrote on Mon, 04 February 2008 12:59 ---------------------------------------------------- > > This is going to be very helpful indeed, thanks. Allow me to suggest a version that doesn't rely on a fixed folder structure. > > Ha! Nice one :) Mattijs From kasper at club-internet.fr Mon Feb 4 05:12:21 2008 From: kasper at club-internet.fr (Kasper T Toeplitz) Date: Mon Feb 4 05:12:35 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Basic question 'bout sending data mac2mac via terminal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I just ran a modified benchmark with an Intel sending and a PPC receiving on >a local wireless network established on the Intel. A counter ticking every >500 MS produces the following results... could you send me the modified patch/benchmark? many thanks kasper -- Kasper T. Toeplitz noise, composition, bass, computer http://www.sleazeArt.com http://www.myspace.com/sleazeart From jennek.geels at xs4all.nl Mon Feb 4 05:32:59 2008 From: jennek.geels at xs4all.nl (jennek geels) Date: Mon Feb 4 05:33:16 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Remote sleep and reboot In-Reply-To: <1f3c9.47a61bfb@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3c9.47a61bfb@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 3-feb-2008, at 20:54, Wouter Verbiest wrote: > Thanks Masayuki! > But..what attached patch do you mean...? Patches attached to the mailing list do not make it to the forum, if I remember correctly. here is the text version of the patch that Masayuki posted. to quickly input the mac address in hexadecimal, use numbox with its display style set to hex. -jennek max v2; #N vpatcher 20 74 394 378; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 185 210 113 196617 <- Broadcast address and por 6; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 47 210 138 196617 udpsend 255.255.255.255 6; #P message 96 142 133 196617 0 \, 10 \, 149 \, 196 \, 169 \, 86; #P newex 96 94 40 196617 uzi 16; #P newex 145 94 40 196617 uzi 6; #P message 194 94 33 196617 clear; #P button 47 40 15 0; #P newex 47 68 159 196617 b 4; #P message 145 119 26 196617 255; #P newex 47 183 69 196617 aka.datagram; #P comment 62 41 100 196617 Wave up !; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 229 142 100 196617 <- MAC address of the target computer; #P connect 5 0 4 0; #P fasten 6 0 2 0 199 172 52 172; #P fasten 3 0 2 0 150 172 52 172; #P fasten 9 0 2 0 101 172 52 172; #P fasten 4 0 2 0 52 124 52 124; #P connect 2 0 10 0; #P connect 4 1 8 0; #P connect 8 0 9 0; #P connect 4 2 7 0; #P connect 7 0 3 0; #P connect 4 3 6 0; #P pop; From thetawnyowl at googlemail.com Mon Feb 4 06:00:00 2008 From: thetawnyowl at googlemail.com (Leafcutter John) Date: Mon Feb 4 06:00:04 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Record to mp3 Message-ID: <1f410.47a70c4c@www.cycling74.com> Anyone know if this is possible using a MSP or Jitter object. I'm looking for a cross platform solution. Thanks, John. -- http://www.leafcutterjohn.com "The Forest And The Sea" Out on Staubgold Records Staubgold 68 CD/LP From julien.rabin at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 06:24:25 2008 From: julien.rabin at gmail.com (Rabin Julien) Date: Mon Feb 4 06:24:34 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: managing multiple patches In-Reply-To: <1f408.47a6fe1b@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f408.47a6fe1b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <770742B8-AC4F-4999-A8F1-67AA34ED4CDA@gmail.com> Le 4 f?vr. 08 ? 12:59, jvkr a ?crit : > > This is going to be very helpful indeed, thanks. Allow me to suggest > a version that doesn't rely on a fixed folder structure. > > _ > johan > > #P Ah of course ! I forgot one could set the type 'fold' for ubumenu. Thanks. I thought about doing it with a js script but of course it sucks as the script has to be in the same folder. In fact, using both methods seems a good idea as it would allow to check if all the necessary folders (and their assumed content) are present in the distribution (and pop up an error dialog if not, for example). Well. Maybe a little more caution than needed, but too much is never enough when distributing patchs (especially to non Max users - and people never read readme files anyway...). mmm... I really need to make a nice patch launcher template. Best, Julien. From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Mon Feb 4 07:08:50 2008 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Mon Feb 4 07:08:57 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] MOTU driver strange problems Message-ID: <3DC3D511-D75C-413E-BA32-B735B364C0B4@orange.fr> Hi everybody, I have a strange problem with MOTU 828mkII and Max/MSP here is it: - Max/MSP driver select MOTU - doesn't works - wery high continu sound - Max/MSP driver select built-in - all is ok sound into internal loudspeakers I change the internal output to MOTU dirver (preferences panel) - internal sounds is output from MOTU - Max/MSP driver select bult-il - sound is output from MOTU all is ok! - Max/MSP driver select MOTU - doesn't works - wery high continu sound!!!!! this is on intel iMac 2.16GHz Core Duo, 1 Go667Mb RAM Max/MSP 4.6.3 I try the same MOTU to another Mac PowerPC G5 4x2.5GHz, 1,5G RAM Max/MSP 4.6.2 exactly the smae problems I take a new version of MOTU driver 1.4.6 I have exactly the same problems - no output form dirver Max/MSP for MOTU BUT I change the MOTU - I tak another one 828mkII and... all is ok! Max/MSP is working directly to MOTU!!! is anybody has the same problem? where is the problem exactly: - MOTU driver - Max driver - Mac driver...... this problem seams to be realy strange could somebody help me to resovle it? our first MOTU is break down? but why ti's working with direct out? our Max driver is break down? but why it's working with another MOTU interface? thanks a lot for your help Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From nick at cassiel.com Mon Feb 4 07:17:12 2008 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Mon Feb 4 07:17:18 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] MOTU driver strange problems In-Reply-To: <3DC3D511-D75C-413E-BA32-B735B364C0B4@orange.fr> References: <3DC3D511-D75C-413E-BA32-B735B364C0B4@orange.fr> Message-ID: On 4 Feb 2008, at 14:08, Mihalic Alexander wrote: > I change the MOTU - I tak another one 828mkII > > and... all is ok! Max/MSP is working directly to MOTU!!! From what you've said, I think you've answered your own question. 828MkII #1 is broken, 828MkII #2 isn't. -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.last.fm/music/cassiel www.reverbnation.com/cassiel www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel www.loadbang.net From personalcomputermusic at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 07:27:57 2008 From: personalcomputermusic at gmail.com (f.e) Date: Mon Feb 4 07:28:04 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] how can i send custom text messages to the mcu display via midi In-Reply-To: <1f3e2.47a65cea@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3e2.47a65cea@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A720ED.9070400@gmail.com> I don't know what is MCU but i guess it's a MIDI device, so, from my experience (Virus KC, Korg Kontrol 49, Kord PadKontrol...), you'll have to build the messages as sysex. Look in the MIDI annexes in the manual, you should find what you're looking for (but it'll surely need a few hours to guess and try...) I've got an example patch for Kontrol 49 if you need (should be the same process as your MCU, or not far) Cheers f.e f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music >>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com >>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people| blairell a ?crit : > hey guys. i was wondering if there is any information on how the text protocol work for the mcu display works. i wanted to send a few basic text strings to it via midi. > > thanks for any help or advice! > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > From owen at owengreen.net Mon Feb 4 07:46:54 2008 From: owen at owengreen.net (Owen Green) Date: Mon Feb 4 07:47:10 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] how can i send custom text messages to the mcu display via midi In-Reply-To: <1f3e2.47a65cea@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3e2.47a65cea@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <47A7255E.2090307@owengreen.net> Mackie Control Universal? The commands for setting text on the display are in its MIDI spec, here (the Logic Control MIDI impl, starting page 239): http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Logic7_DedicatedCntrlSurfaceInfo.pdf -- O blairell wrote: > hey guys. i was wondering if there is any information on how the > text protocol work for the mcu display works. i wanted to send a few > basic text strings to it via midi. > > thanks for any help or advice! > _______________________________________________ maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > > From tremblap at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 07:52:33 2008 From: tremblap at gmail.com (Pierre Alexandre Tremblay) Date: Mon Feb 4 07:52:42 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] MOTU driver strange problems In-Reply-To: <3DC3D511-D75C-413E-BA32-B735B364C0B4@orange.fr> References: <3DC3D511-D75C-413E-BA32-B735B364C0B4@orange.fr> Message-ID: <16AA973C-DEDE-4A8D-A16B-76B377727465@gmail.com> Got the same problem in a performance, after many years of troublefree services on tour and at home. The trick is that the bloody MOTU decides to activate the ADAT without telling the driver! The way out, quick and efficient: 1- quit max 2- go in the MOTU audio setup 3- set the ADAT IN and OUT on then off (or off then on if you want them on) 4- restart max voil?! pa From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Mon Feb 4 08:20:09 2008 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:20:15 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] MOTU driver strange problems In-Reply-To: References: <3DC3D511-D75C-413E-BA32-B735B364C0B4@orange.fr> Message-ID: #1 is working... does it mean it's not broken... I made a new test with PC VAIO and #1 MOTU: Max/MSP - driver MOTU directly out - WORKING! i retested immediatly wirh Mac - doesn't work with direct MOTU driver.................. Le 4 f?vr. 08 ? 15:17, Nick Rothwell a ?crit : > > On 4 Feb 2008, at 14:08, Mihalic Alexander wrote: > >> I change the MOTU - I tak another one 828mkII >> >> and... all is ok! Max/MSP is working directly to MOTU!!! > > From what you've said, I think you've answered your own question. > 828MkII #1 is broken, 828MkII #2 isn't. > > -- N. > > > Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited > www.cassiel.com > www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom > www.last.fm/music/cassiel > www.reverbnation.com/cassiel > www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel > www.loadbang.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail.Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From samothrakis at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 08:31:05 2008 From: samothrakis at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:31:11 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Multiple apple remotes Message-ID: <1f41a.47a72fb8@www.cycling74.com> Hi community, I would like to use multiple apple remotes for an installation. Is there anyway of differentiating the incoming data for each single one? I know I should somehow use their ID, but this info doesn’t seem to be appearing in the hi object. Any idea? Thanks From mihalic.imeb at orange.fr Mon Feb 4 09:00:05 2008 From: mihalic.imeb at orange.fr (Mihalic Alexander) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:00:19 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] MOTU driver strange problems In-Reply-To: <16AA973C-DEDE-4A8D-A16B-76B377727465@gmail.com> References: <3DC3D511-D75C-413E-BA32-B735B364C0B4@orange.fr> <16AA973C-DEDE-4A8D-A16B-76B377727465@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8D57311C-341D-4925-B222-2E7C406194D1@orange.fr> incredible!!!!! it's working now! thanks you realy very very much Pierre I lost 2 crazy days with this problem....... Le 4 f?vr. 08 ? 15:52, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay a ?crit : > Got the same problem in a performance, after many years of > troublefree services on tour and at home. > > The trick is that the bloody MOTU decides to activate the ADAT > without telling the driver! The way out, quick and efficient: > > 1- quit max > 2- go in the MOTU audio setup > 3- set the ADAT IN and OUT on then off (or off then on if you want > them on) > 4- restart max > > voil?! > > pa > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail.Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > Alexander Mihalic ----------------------------------------------------------- Computer Music Department Manager IMEB Pl. Andr? Malraux, 18000 Bourges, France mihalic.imeb@orange.fr http://www.imeb.org tel: (33)-2.48.20.41.87. fax: (33)-2.48.20.45.51. From diddymonster666 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 4 09:01:42 2008 From: diddymonster666 at hotmail.com (Clare) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:01:46 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] alternative midi controllers Message-ID: <1f41c.47a736e4@www.cycling74.com> Hello, I am writing a patch at the moment for use in a theatre production that will allow samples to be triggered when a button is pressed. What I'm looking for is some kind of controller that can be connected to my laptop and used to trgger my patch. Ive seen these self adhesive pads that are connected to a usb. They are like small drum pads and can potentially be stuck to an individual and not seen by an audience. I was wondering if anyone knew what these are called and where I could get something like that. Also, if there are any other triggers that you feel could be interesting for my show, please could you let me know. Thanks for your help!! Clare From Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu Mon Feb 4 09:04:29 2008 From: Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu (Gary Lee Nelson) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:04:37 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Multiple apple remotes In-Reply-To: <1f41a.47a72fb8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: I've done this with several other controllers using hi. In those cases, the menu shows each of them separately so selecting them individually as the focus of hi is possible. How just need a hi object for each. On 2/4/08 10:31 AM, "Eric" wrote: > > Hi community, > > I would like to use multiple apple remotes for an installation. Is there > anyway of differentiating the incoming data for each single one? > I know I should somehow use their ID, but this info doesn’t seem to be > appearing in the hi object. > > Any idea? > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp Cheers Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson From samothrakis at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 09:09:51 2008 From: samothrakis at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:09:56 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: alternative midi controllers In-Reply-To: <1f41c.47a736e4@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f41f.47a738cf@www.cycling74.com> What platform are you using? From diddymonster666 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 4 09:11:17 2008 From: diddymonster666 at hotmail.com (Clare) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:11:21 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: alternative midi controllers In-Reply-To: <1f41f.47a738cf@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f420.47a73925@www.cycling74.com> sorry, Im using max/msp on a windows vista laptop Thanks From samothrakis at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 09:14:24 2008 From: samothrakis at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:14:32 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re- In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f421.47a739e0@www.cycling74.com> Well, that is handy. Thank you for pointing this out! All best, Eric. From samothrakis at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 09:29:29 2008 From: samothrakis at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:29:34 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: alternative midi controllers In-Reply-To: <1f420.47a73925@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f422.47a73d68@www.cycling74.com> Did you consider the idea of using a gamepad controller? It would be cheaper than an external midi controller, as well as more discrete. You could use an USB gamepad or even a Bluetooth one (as the Wiimote) for easy concealing. From Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu Mon Feb 4 09:54:01 2008 From: Gary.Nelson at oberlin.edu (Gary Lee Nelson) Date: Mon Feb 4 09:54:11 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] alternative midi controllers In-Reply-To: <1f41c.47a736e4@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: If only one button is needed, why not consider the apple remote. It was just discussed on the list. I just tried it. I haven't sorted out what the numbers mean but -/+ control volume and menu opens a media selector. The range seems to be broad. I tried 50-60 feet. On 2/4/08 11:01 AM, "Clare" wrote: > > Hello, > > I am writing a patch at the moment for use in a theatre production that will > allow samples to be triggered when a button is pressed. > What I'm looking for is some kind of controller that can be connected to my > laptop and used to trgger my patch. > Ive seen these self adhesive pads that are connected to a usb. They are like > small drum pads and can potentially be stuck to an individual and not seen by > an audience. > I was wondering if anyone knew what these are called and where I could get > something like that. Also, if there are any other triggers that you feel > could be interesting for my show, please could you let me know. > Thanks for your help!! > > Clare > _______________________________________________ > maxmsp mailing list > maxmsp@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp Cheers Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson From samothrakis at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 10:03:10 2008 From: samothrakis at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Mon Feb 4 10:03:15 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: alternative midi controllers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1f424.47a7454e@www.cycling74.com> I thought about this, but unfortunately she is working on windows vista. From cbm at well.com Mon Feb 4 10:04:29 2008 From: cbm at well.com (Chris Muir) Date: Mon Feb 4 10:04:28 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] how can i send custom text messages to the mcu display via midi In-Reply-To: <1f3e2.47a65cea@www.cycling74.com> References: <1f3e2.47a65cea@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On Feb 3, 2008, at 4:31 PM, blairell wrote: > hey guys. i was wondering if there is any information on how the > text protocol work for the mcu display works. i wanted to send a > few basic text strings to it via midi. If you're talking about the Mackie Control, I have an example called Maxie Control deals with most aspects of the Mackie Control : http://www.xfade.com/max/ -C From martin.leese at stanfordalumni.org Mon Feb 4 10:09:25 2008 From: martin.leese at stanfordalumni.org (Martin Leese) Date: Mon Feb 4 10:09:32 2008 Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Sound in space In-Reply-To: <1f3db.47a64ab4@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1f426.47a746c4@www.cycling74.com> Quote: tedor wrote on Sun, 03 February 2008 16:13 ---------------------------------------------------- > I think I need at least four channels for this object... I found something about Ambisonic UHJ format. Do you think there is something for this object, so the sound movements can be still recognizable in stereo? ---------------------------------------------------- For full-sphere Ambisonics you need four transmission channels and six, preferably eight, speakers. This means that you need a decoder to convert from one to the other. Two-channel UHJ is a way of matrixing three of the four transmission channels down into two stereo-compatible channels. (This can not be done without loss.) The one transmission channel which is discarded is Z which is used to encode height. So two- channel UHJ is horizontal only. Horizontal only is not what you originally wanted. There is a four-channel version of UHJ which includes height, but if you are going that route you might as well use the raw transmission ch