From adamjmurray at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 01:50:00 2007 From: adamjmurray at gmail.com (Adam Murray) Date: Fri Nov 2 01:50:03 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Pluggo as a VST to AU adapter for Logic? Message-ID: <1d409.472ad6a7@www.cycling74.com> Is it possible to use Pluggo to run arbitrary vst plugins in Logic, like the FXpansion adapter does? http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=5 Max/MSP builds plug-ins as .vst files, so I tried dropping a .vst in /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/Pluggo and rescanning with the Pluggo component, but that doesn't work. I guess it makes sense that Pluggo only works with Max-built vst files. I can build a Max patch plug-in that uses the vst~ object and get a vst running inside Pluggo in Logic. But in Logic I can't open the original vst's GUI like I can inside of Max (via a double click or open message to vst~). So it seems I'd have to build my own GUI around vst~ in Max. To use the original plug-in's GUI, I should be able to host the vst in Max and have Max and Logic talk to each other with rewire. Is that the best option? -Adam From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Fri Nov 2 02:41:37 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Fri Nov 2 02:41:42 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: OS X Pluggo 3.5.4 AU + Live 5.2.1 = crash? In-Reply-To: <1cead.4714eed9@www.cycling74.com> References: <1cead.4714eed9@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <472AE2C1.7060005@addcom.de> Jabbo schrieb: > I keep having a crash too, especially if there is a umenu in the patch. The vst specs don't allow umenus (they are programmed as a window) you have to replace them with an ubumenu... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Fri Nov 2 02:50:04 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Fri Nov 2 02:50:06 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: finnicky metro In-Reply-To: <1d010.471aeff3@www.cycling74.com> References: <1d010.471aeff3@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <472AE4BC.4060608@addcom.de> eli schrieb: > The wierd thing is that the metro was recieving the right values from > plugsync~ but still just kept going as fast as it could. You might have found it already yourself, but did you ever look at the metro help file? If anything isn't working as you expect, that's the first thing to do. If you send BPM values to metro, metro still will interpret them as milliseconds, and 120 ms is a pretty short time... There is also a tempo object which will be probably closer to what you'd expect metro to do... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Fri Nov 2 03:27:07 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Fri Nov 2 03:27:29 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: OS X Pluggo 3.5.4 AU + Live 5.2.1 = crash? In-Reply-To: <472AE2C1.7060005@addcom.de> References: <1cead.4714eed9@www.cycling74.com> <472AE2C1.7060005@addcom.de> Message-ID: On 2 nov. 07, at 09:41, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Jabbo schrieb: >> I keep having a crash too, especially if there is a umenu in the >> patch. > > The vst specs don't allow umenus (they are programmed as a window) > you have to replace them with an ubumenu... Stefan, you mean the inverse, right? Ubumenu is unsupported in vst because it uses another window. You have to replace them by umenu. ej From jacopo at lan-muzic.com Fri Nov 2 07:12:13 2007 From: jacopo at lan-muzic.com (Jabbo) Date: Fri Nov 2 07:12:16 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: OS X Pluggo 3.5.4 AU + Live 5.2.1 = crash? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1d42a.472b222c@www.cycling74.com> thnx! another question. Is it better to have one pluggo sending beat information to the rest of the plugos, or is it better to have a clock for everypatch, i.e.: shall I use one ddg.beatsync as a master, or shall I put a ddg.beatsync in every instance of the plugin? I am sorry, but something in the search option of the forum is not working, and via google I don?t find much. From splash-music at gmx.ch Fri Nov 2 11:05:01 2007 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Fri Nov 2 11:05:02 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Filtergraph Object In-Reply-To: <1d3aa.4729259b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d439.472b58bd@www.cycling74.com> Hi dave, Thanks. I try to attach. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: MaxEQ_STA.pat Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2404 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/pluggo/attachments/20071102/fefe52a5/MaxEQ_STA.obj From Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de Sat Nov 3 03:18:18 2007 From: Stefan-Tiedje at addcom.de (Stefan Tiedje) Date: Sat Nov 3 03:18:20 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> References: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <472C3CDA.7050200@addcom.de> Arne Eigenfeldt schrieb: > So, am I missing a simple solution to automatically clear the audio > buffers when the transport starts? Just a shot in the dark, did you try to put a pass~ object just before the audio output. This would be the solution for other muting methods in MSP...? Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From d.linnenbank at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 17:02:34 2007 From: d.linnenbank at gmail.com (dave linnenbank) Date: Sat Nov 3 17:02:37 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Filtergraph Object In-Reply-To: <1d439.472b58bd@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d486.472cfe09@www.cycling74.com> your patch seems to be working fine in max. i'm not aware of any specific problems between filtergraph~ and pluggo building, but others would know the details better. i suspect the problem is in your plugin host. it may have somehow stored values (as "automation" or some other type of "event") for those three parameters you mentioned. if the problem persists in a new file, perhaps there are some issues between pluggo and your host. hope this helps you narrow it down a bit. --dave From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 21:52:53 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Nov 3 21:52:54 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: finnicky metro In-Reply-To: <472AE4BC.4060608@addcom.de> Message-ID: <1d494.472d4214@www.cycling74.com> yeah I tried a tempo object and had the same effect. I tried using plugsync's beat count and had the same effect. there are a couple wierd things happening the tempo value shows up correctly in the number box that is sending reading the values going to the tempo/metro object, but the tempo/metro object still just buzzes no matter what tempo i send it. I timed the interval between bangs coming out and both the tempo, metro, and the beat count (from the plugsync object) and they all showed up as 2.9ish (ms I think, sounds right because this buzz is fast.) There is NO difference in bangs coming out even though the number going in changes how it should. THe other wierd thing is that when I don't have the tempo/metro plugged in to the plugsync object it functions completely normally. Why would it act different if I plug it into plugsync or not when it's getting the same numbers? I really need help with this, this bug is pretty beyond me. I've been working at it for awhile now and still can't fix it. -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 22:00:24 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Nov 3 22:00:26 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: finnicky metro In-Reply-To: <1d494.472d4214@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d496.472d43d8@www.cycling74.com> ok i figured it out: plugsync's first output (playstatus) was freaking out and kept turning the instrument on and off really fast. nevermind -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 22:12:07 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Nov 3 22:12:09 2007 Subject: [pluggo] ascii keys in pluggo? Message-ID: <1d497.472d4697@www.cycling74.com> is there a way to get the ascii keyboard deal into pluggo inside another program? I am trying to get around an issue that plugsync has with the first output (playstatus) and have it so that the program and the plugin play in sync, so spacebar would start or stop the tempo object that I have in my pluggo. I am using this in albleton live 5.2 with a windows xp. -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 22:40:58 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Nov 3 22:41:00 2007 Subject: [pluggo] multiple pluggo colls? Message-ID: <1d499.472d4d5a@www.cycling74.com> when I open more than one instance of one pluggo they seem to share the same colls. is it possible to have them not do this? I am using aleton live 5.2 on windows xp thanks -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From nick at cassiel.com Sun Nov 4 02:34:48 2007 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Sun Nov 4 02:34:45 2007 Subject: [pluggo] multiple pluggo colls? In-Reply-To: <1d499.472d4d5a@www.cycling74.com> References: <1d499.472d4d5a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <7B89815A-B868-4910-A44A-410004B78FDF@cassiel.com> On 4 Nov 2007, at 04:40, eli wrote: > when I open more than one instance of one pluggo they seem to share > the same colls. That's what Pluggo does: all the plug-ins run in the same environment. Developers should really not be using colls with fixes names unless they intend the colls to be shared between multiple plug-ins - the "#0" trick is an obvious workround. (The same applies for send/ recieve symbol names and so on.) nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// www.cassiel.com From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Sun Nov 4 03:35:44 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Sun Nov 4 03:36:05 2007 Subject: [pluggo] multiple pluggo colls? In-Reply-To: <7B89815A-B868-4910-A44A-410004B78FDF@cassiel.com> References: <1d499.472d4d5a@www.cycling74.com> <7B89815A-B868-4910-A44A-410004B78FDF@cassiel.com> Message-ID: <0F9BCC9F-8006-4F83-BB59-89603B0E6530@e--j.com> On 4 nov. 07, at 10:34, Nick Rothwell wrote: >> when I open more than one instance of one pluggo they seem to >> share the same colls. > > That's what Pluggo does: all the plug-ins run in the same environment. > > Developers should really not be using colls with fixes names unless > they intend the colls to be shared between multiple plug-ins - the > "#0" trick is an obvious workround. (The same applies for send/ > recieve symbol names and so on.) Although the "#0" trick works in abstracion, I'm not sure it works in the main level. In pluggo the recommended way to make a send/receive/ coll/value private is to but 3 dashes in front of the name (aka [coll ---toto]). ej From nick at cassiel.com Sun Nov 4 04:04:50 2007 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Sun Nov 4 04:04:56 2007 Subject: [pluggo] multiple pluggo colls? In-Reply-To: <0F9BCC9F-8006-4F83-BB59-89603B0E6530@e--j.com> References: <1d499.472d4d5a@www.cycling74.com> <7B89815A-B868-4910-A44A-410004B78FDF@cassiel.com> <0F9BCC9F-8006-4F83-BB59-89603B0E6530@e--j.com> Message-ID: On 4 Nov 2007, at 10:35, Emmanuel Jourdan wrote: > Although the "#0" trick works in abstracion, I'm not sure it works > in the main level. In pluggo the recommended way to make a send/ > receive/coll/value private is to but 3 dashes in front of the name > (aka [coll ---toto]). Fair cop, you're probably right, now I think about it. I forgot about the '---' thing... Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.last.fm/music/cassiel www.loadbang.net From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 12:04:50 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sun Nov 4 12:04:52 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: multiple pluggo colls? In-Reply-To: <1d499.472d4d5a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d4bd.472e17d2@www.cycling74.com> should i do this with my pvars too? thanks btw -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From splash-music at gmx.ch Mon Nov 5 03:40:29 2007 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Mon Nov 5 03:40:39 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Filtergraph Object In-Reply-To: <1d486.472cfe09@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d4f0.472ef31c@www.cycling74.com> The funny thing is, that when I change the view to 1 1 1 1, so that i get the egg sliders and the Patch view, it saves the settings, when saving in ProTools and being in the eggslider view. When Saving in the Patch view the Parameters are not saved with the ProTools song. Strange isn't it? Kind regards AtH From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Nov 5 04:44:31 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Nov 5 04:44:34 2007 Subject: [pluggo] [timer] inside pluggo reports incorrect interval Message-ID: <1d4f4.472f021e@www.cycling74.com> Hi all, I noticed that a timer object reports outputs incorrect values when used within a pluggo. Here is a movie that illustrates this: http://www.smadsteck.nl/Pluggo%20timer%20test.mov Logic plays an event every 1000 ms. Watch the numbox that is connected to the timer object. It displays much less than 1000 ms between events. Is there anyone that can explain this? Thanks a lot, Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Nov 5 05:16:10 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Nov 5 05:16:12 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: [timer] inside pluggo reports incorrect interval In-Reply-To: <1d4f4.472f021e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d4f6.472f098a@www.cycling74.com> Allright, sorry, I started with a clean logic song and for some reason now the timer no longer seems to display too small intervals. No idea why.. There is an other issue though, but I'll create a new topic for that. Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Mon Nov 5 07:19:25 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Mon Nov 5 07:19:26 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. Message-ID: <1d4ff.472f266c@www.cycling74.com> Hi all, I'm monitoring the output of a pp inside a pluggo. Here is how it looks on my computer: http://www.smadsteck.nl/Pluggo%20timer%20test%202.mov (1.6 MB, h264 codec) As you can see, logic sends an event to the plugin every 1000 ms. The events are also sent to max with midi. The interval between the events inside the pluggo has an error of 20-40 ms. Sent to max with midi, the events have a far smaller timing error: less than 1 ms. If a you could confirm this I would be very thankful. Here are the source files (logic song, compiled pluggo, pluggo source patch and midi timer patch): http://www.smadsteck.nl/Pluggo%20timer%20test.zip Mattijs Max 4.6.3, Pluggo 3.6.1, Logic Pro 7.2.3 -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org Mon Nov 5 16:46:55 2007 From: jeanfrancois.charles at newflore.org (jeanfrancois.charles) Date: Mon Nov 5 16:47:01 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Midi output from AU still broken? Message-ID: <1d54b.472fab6e@www.cycling74.com> Hi, Is MIDI output from AU versions of plugins still broken? Is there any hope it will be fixed? Will it be fixed in Max 5? Plugins such as envelope follower to MIDI, or pitch tracking to MIDI should be included in Pluggo-building tutorials in my opinion. (yes, that would mean include also a sort of fiddle~ within Max MSP). Thanks, Jean-Fran?ois. From mitchell.brooke at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 04:00:08 2007 From: mitchell.brooke at gmail.com (brooke mitchell) Date: Tue Nov 6 04:00:34 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Popcorn preset (lofi drums instrument) crashes Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1ce0a.47122531@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d585.47304937@www.cycling74.com> I have this exact same problem but with Live 6. Both presets VST and AUs. I wonder what it could be? Missing samples? Parameters assigned to something weird? I have no clue whatsoever but this bugs the hell outta me as I like this particular pluggo. From andrew at cycling74.com Tue Nov 6 09:03:25 2007 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Tue Nov 6 09:03:28 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Popcorn preset (lofi drums instrument) crashes Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1d585.47304937@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d5ab.4730904d@www.cycling74.com> I'll have a look at this today. I seem to vaguely recall that it has been reported before - does this fix it? http://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/IncrementalDownloads/WebHome#Updates_since_Pluggo_3_6_1 -A From andrew at cycling74.com Tue Nov 6 12:00:31 2007 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Tue Nov 6 12:00:32 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Midi output from AU still broken? In-Reply-To: <1d54b.472fab6e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d5c2.4730b9cf@www.cycling74.com> We don't have any immediate plans to support this new feature of the AU spec (introduced in OS 10.5). All of our development efforts are currently focused on Max 5. In the meantime I would suggest finding workarounds or using VST. -A From andrew at cycling74.com Tue Nov 6 12:40:08 2007 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Tue Nov 6 12:40:10 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Popcorn preset (lofi drums instrument) crashes Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1d5ab.4730904d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d5c7.4730c317@www.cycling74.com> Ok - I reproduced the crash with the 3.6.1 installer Here is a fixed version - please let us know if you still have problems http://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/IncrementalDownloads/WebHome#Updates_since_Pluggo_3_6_1 -A From mitchell.brooke at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 14:09:36 2007 From: mitchell.brooke at gmail.com (brooke mitchell) Date: Tue Nov 6 14:09:38 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Popcorn preset (lofi drums instrument) crashes Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1d5c7.4730c317@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d5d3.4730d810@www.cycling74.com> This is fantastic but unfortunately I don't have TWiki access... From mitchell.brooke at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 18:39:40 2007 From: mitchell.brooke at gmail.com (brooke mitchell) Date: Tue Nov 6 18:39:43 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Popcorn preset (lofi drums instrument) crashes Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1ce0a.47122531@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d603.4731175a@www.cycling74.com> Fantastic! downloads link worked fine in Safari. These presets are running fine now, took a few tries and rescans before I got audio. Once again thanks heaps. Brooke. From roald.baudoux at brutele.be Mon Nov 12 07:28:29 2007 From: roald.baudoux at brutele.be (Roald Baudoux) Date: Mon Nov 12 08:24:37 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Apps compatible with 8 outputs-pluggos on Macintosh? Message-ID: <366A9CAB-FE92-45D5-9569-41328646FB61@brutele.be> Hello, I want to build Pluggo plug-ins with eight outputs. I know it is possible to split the outputs on several channels using the Pluggo busses and several receiving plug-ins. However I would like to know whether there is any Macintosh supporting surruond plug-ins on a single channel because I want simpler configurations? My last attempts with Logic Pro 8 and Pro Tools LE 7.1 suggests these application do not support such plug-ins. What about Digital Performer, Cubase, Nuendo? Thank you in advance. Roald Baudoux From splash-music at gmx.ch Thu Nov 15 07:47:40 2007 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Thu Nov 15 07:48:01 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Pluggo installed for vst/Rtas Plug-ins Message-ID: <1d925.473c5c0b@www.cycling74.com> A simple question: Is it necessary to have pluggo installed to run a plug - in created in MaxMSP, or is it enough to have max-runtime or maxmsp installed on the machine the plug-in should run on? (I can't tell because i have installed both) thanx for a quick info ath From pfgcircus at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 10:32:41 2007 From: pfgcircus at gmail.com (pedro guerreiro) Date: Sat Nov 17 10:32:43 2007 Subject: [pluggo] adsr~ & poly~ Message-ID: <1da17.473f25b7@www.cycling74.com> hello all, I can't get poly~ & adsr~ to work correctly inside a vst plugin. I always get stuck notes. Here is a patch taken from adsr~.help: polysynth. Please try build a vst, load in you host, make some sequences and... get stuck notes :-(. any help? thanks. (sorry my english) pedr max v2; #N vpatcher 243 93 964 676; #P origin 0 -8; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 104 455 29 196617 stop; #P message 104 435 67 196617 startwindow; #P newex 180 470 48 196617 dac~; #P flonum 196 337 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 237 340 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 294 367 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 342 337 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 0 1 1 1; #C numprograms 2; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C windowsize; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 0; #C addview pfg.info 0 377 0; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package _pfg; #C setprogram 1 "tip cena" 0 0. 0. 1. 0. 0.2 0.014925 0.3 0.111111 0.031746 0. 0.634324 0.333333 0.472441 0. 0.183594 0.324219 0.472656 0.449219 0.453125 0.394531 0.425781 0.183594 0.296875 0.410156 0.382812 0.445312 0.378906 0.445312 0.472656 0.183594 0.324219 0.433594 0.457031 0.429688 0.390625 0.449219 0.183594 0.3125 0.410156 0.429688 0.402344 0.179688 0.378906 0.410156 0.398438 0.398438 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.; 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#C uniqueid 128 70 51; #C accurate; #C initialpgm 1; #C synth; #P newobj 307 41 53 196617 plugconfig; #B color 6; #P newex 238 109 92 196617 midiparse; #P newex 238 85 55 196617 plugmidiin; #B color 4; #P flonum 585 325 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P message 585 343 75 196617 maxsustain \$1; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 95 44 108 196617 adsr~ was made to be poly~'s friend.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 98 177 40 196617 notein; #P comment 346 298 15 196617 R; #P comment 297 298 15 196617 S; #P comment 240 298 15 196617 D; #P newex 29 79 30 196617 + 43; #P newex 29 59 55 196617 random 36; #P number 74 21 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P toggle 29 21 15 0; #P newex 29 39 55 196617 metro 175; #P message 266 232 45 196617 target 0; #P newex 294 339 39 196617 / 100.; #P user dial 294 310 19 19 100 1 0 0 234 270 1 1. 227 234 168 248 248 248 147 147 147 187 153 91 175 26 26 1 184 43; #P user dial 342 310 19 19 100 10 0 0 234 270 1 1. 227 234 168 248 248 248 147 147 147 187 153 91 175 26 26 1 184 43; #P user dial 237 310 19 19 100 10 0 0 234 270 1 1. 227 234 168 248 248 248 147 147 147 187 153 91 175 26 26 1 184 43; #P user dial 196 310 19 19 100 10 0 0 234 270 1 1. 227 234 168 248 248 248 147 147 147 187 153 91 175 26 26 1 184 43; #P newex 69 137 27 196617 100; #P newex 266 199 45 196617 loadbang; #P flonum 517 325 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P message 517 343 65 196617 retrigger \$1; #P toggle 463 325 15 0; #P message 463 343 51 196617 legato \$1; #P toggle 324 233 15 0; #P message 324 254 45 196617 steal \$1; #P newex 180 416 40 196617 *~ 0.1; #P newex 29 206 51 196617 pack 0 0; #P newex 29 228 86 196617 prepend midinote; #P number 69 154 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 29 177 51 196617 makenote; #P newex 180 446 48 196617 plugout~; #P user kslider 29 99 35 1 36 48 19 7 0 128 128 128 128 128 128 255 255 255 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P comment 105 154 68 196617 note duration; #P comment 198 298 15 196617 A; #P comment 498 389 100 196617 <-- look inside; #P newex 180 394 136 196617 poly~ adsr-synth 4; #P connect 26 0 25 0; #P connect 25 0 28 0; #P connect 28 0 29 0; #P connect 29 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 9 0; #P fasten 33 0 9 0 103 198 34 198; #P fasten 38 0 8 0 243 207 99 207 99 226 34 226; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P fasten 4 1 6 1 221 144 54 144; #P connect 17 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 7 0; #P connect 7 0 6 2; #P connect 6 1 9 1; #P fasten 33 1 9 1 118 201 75 201; #P connect 27 0 25 1; #P fasten 8 0 0 0 34 256 185 256; #P fasten 11 0 0 0 329 276 185 276; #P fasten 24 0 0 0 271 281 185 281; #P connect 0 0 10 0; #P connect 10 0 5 0; #P connect 46 0 44 0; #P connect 45 0 44 0; #P connect 5 0 44 0; #P connect 19 0 43 0; #P fasten 35 0 0 1 590 364 210 364; #P fasten 13 0 0 1 468 364 210 364; #P fasten 15 0 0 1 522 364 210 364; #P fasten 10 0 5 1 185 440 223 440; #P connect 5 1 44 1; #P fasten 43 0 0 2 201 373 235 373; #P connect 20 0 42 0; #P connect 37 0 38 0; #P fasten 42 0 0 3 242 374 260 374; #P connect 17 0 24 0; #P fasten 41 0 0 4 299 388 285 388; #P connect 22 0 23 0; #P connect 23 0 41 0; #P fasten 40 0 0 5 347 391 310 391; #P fasten 17 0 12 0 271 223 329 223; #P connect 12 0 11 0; #P connect 21 0 40 0; #P connect 14 0 13 0; #P connect 16 0 15 0; #P connect 36 0 35 0; #P pop; From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Wed Nov 21 04:30:29 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Wed Nov 21 04:30:30 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: scheduler and main thread in pluggo In-Reply-To: <16339.45a6cef6@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1db3b.474416d3@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Andrew Pask wrote on Fri, 12 January 2007 00:57 ---------------------------------------------------- > > > No - there's no way to change the thread it is running in. > > What are you trying to do? > > -A > > ---------------------------------------------------- Hi Andrew, I was just looking into the pluggo dev guide, under runtime issues, it reads: "When parameter automation is employed by the host mixer, parameter changes may be sent from the host to the plug-in at interrupt level." This is about automation data entering the pluggo with pp, right? Now when I do this: #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 127 214 32 196617 print; #P newex 127 190 88 196617 mxj WhichThread; #P newex 127 166 20 196617 t b; #N pp 1 param; #P newobj 127 143 60 196617 pp 1 param; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P connect 1 0 2 0; #P connect 0 0 1 0; #P window clipboard copycount 4; , WhichThread reports "MAIN" when a parameter change is sent to the plugin. I would expect it to say "SCHEDULER". Is this easy to explain? In that case, I'd love to know. Best, Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 15:50:05 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Wed Nov 21 15:50:07 2007 Subject: [pluggo] controlling un-pluggo parameters in ableton? Message-ID: <1db6c.4744b61c@www.cycling74.com> has anyone had success using pluggo to modulate/ control a host parameter in ableton live? I ask this because ableton does not have a lot of support for internal controllers and this is pretty limiting for me, so I wanted to make some internal controllers. Is there a midi configuration that I don't know about? Is there a trick that you can do with midi ox? I'm running ableton 5 on a windows XP thanks -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From randall at fader8.com Fri Nov 23 09:08:37 2007 From: randall at fader8.com (Randall) Date: Fri Nov 23 09:08:39 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Pluggo RTAS in PT 7.4? Message-ID: <1dc05.4746fb04@www.cycling74.com> Hi, Pluggo 3.6.1 OS 10.4.9 After finally narrowing it down that it was Pluggo that was keeping the new Pro Tools 7.4 from opening on my G5, (worked fine in 7.3) I was wondering if anyone else was having this issue? From djholva at yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 13:22:07 2007 From: djholva at yahoo.com (Jonathan Shaw) Date: Sun Nov 25 13:22:08 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Ms. Pinky Message-ID: <1dc73.4749d96f@www.cycling74.com> Hey, I have some questions about Ms. Pinky. I was wondering how well it works in comparison to Final Scratch. Has anyone had any problems with it? And for my main question, could I use a Pro Tools Mbox 2 as the audio converter? Thanks! From itsh at boredbrand.com Tue Nov 27 08:17:55 2007 From: itsh at boredbrand.com (gavin) Date: Tue Nov 27 08:17:57 2007 Subject: [pluggo] My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? Message-ID: <1dcf5.474c3522@www.cycling74.com> Hello, I'm writing a really simple (ha) VST plugin which sends OSC messages out according to a parameter which is controllable from the host. I am finding that the plug-in is crashing the host (Ableton Live). It seems to be becasuse of the UDPSend object. I have read on the forums that people have had trouble with using this this before inside plugins. Has anyone got a fix for this? I was hoping to avoid using a complicated workaround as I am out of my depth already! I have also tested the plug in running Leopard - and it does seem to be stable, though its early days! Gavin From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Nov 27 11:41:02 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Nov 27 11:41:05 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <1dcf5.474c3522@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1dd03.474c64bc@www.cycling74.com> udpsend problems here too, with logic. When logic scans a plugin containing uspsend for first use it always crashes. If I use the plugin with logic for the first time, I have to build it without udpsend, let logic scan it, close logic, build the plugin with udpsend (but with the same unique id!), start logic (no scan, because logic thinks it has already been scanned). Then it kindof works (still occasional crashes though). I had no crashes with the java net examples, but those have other strange behaviour (such as only working if no other computers run the same plugins). I'm still trying to save time to try to modify the java examples so they'll do what I want. Mattijs Quote: gavspav wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 16:17 ---------------------------------------------------- > Hello, > > I'm writing a really simple (ha) VST plugin which sends OSC messages out > according to a parameter which is controllable from the host. > > I am finding that the plug-in is crashing the host (Ableton Live). > > It seems to be becasuse of the UDPSend object. I have read on the forums that people have had trouble with using this this before inside plugins. > > Has anyone got a fix for this? I was hoping to avoid using a complicated workaround as I am out of my depth already! > > I have also tested the plug in running Leopard - and it does seem to be stable, though its early days! > > Gavin > > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From itsh at boredbrand.com Tue Nov 27 11:53:52 2007 From: itsh at boredbrand.com (gavin) Date: Tue Nov 27 11:53:54 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <1d4ff.472f266c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1dd04.474c67c0@www.cycling74.com> Maybe you should try sending midi to max from within the plugin as well. Then you could maybe narrow down the problem. Gavin From mpauley at mac.com Tue Nov 27 12:18:52 2007 From: mpauley at mac.com (Mark Pauley) Date: Tue Nov 27 12:18:57 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <1dd03.474c64bc@www.cycling74.com> References: <1dd03.474c64bc@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <904B85F5-EA97-4B41-9686-FE7ADE127AE2@mac.com> Does the plugin crash auval too? If so, then you could probably figure out where via gdb. _Mark On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Mattijs Kneppers wrote: > > udpsend problems here too, with logic. When logic scans a plugin > containing uspsend for first use it always crashes. > > If I use the plugin with logic for the first time, I have to build > it without udpsend, let logic scan it, close logic, build the plugin > with udpsend (but with the same unique id!), start logic (no scan, > because logic thinks it has already been scanned). Then it kindof > works (still occasional crashes though). > > I had no crashes with the java net examples, but those have other > strange behaviour (such as only working if no other computers run > the same plugins). I'm still trying to save time to try to modify > the java examples so they'll do what I want. > > Mattijs > > Quote: gavspav wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 16:17 > ---------------------------------------------------- >> Hello, >> >> I'm writing a really simple (ha) VST plugin which sends OSC >> messages out >> according to a parameter which is controllable from the host. >> >> I am finding that the plug-in is crashing the host (Ableton Live). >> >> It seems to be becasuse of the UDPSend object. I have read on the >> forums that people have had trouble with using this this before >> inside plugins. >> >> Has anyone got a fix for this? I was hoping to avoid using a >> complicated workaround as I am out of my depth already! >> >> I have also tested the plug in running Leopard - and it does seem >> to be stable, though its early days! >> >> Gavin >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl > Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Nov 27 12:24:14 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Nov 27 12:24:15 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <904B85F5-EA97-4B41-9686-FE7ADE127AE2@mac.com> Message-ID: <1dd0a.474c6ede@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Mark Pauley wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 20:18 ---------------------------------------------------- > Does the plugin crash auval too? If so, then you could probably > figure out where via gdb. > Exactly, it crashes auval. What is gdb? I get a crash report that shows udpsend in the stack trace of the crashed thread. Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From nick at cassiel.com Tue Nov 27 12:33:27 2007 From: nick at cassiel.com (Nick Rothwell) Date: Tue Nov 27 12:33:32 2007 Subject: [pluggo] My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <1dcf5.474c3522@www.cycling74.com> References: <1dcf5.474c3522@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <6E94E697-E201-4D8E-8C48-2DA29839EDC4@cassiel.com> On 27 Nov 2007, at 15:17, gavin wrote: > It seems to be becasuse of the UDPSend object. I have read on the > forums that people have had trouble with using this this before > inside plugins. Ya - udpsend is not interrupt-safe as far as I can tell. In the end I went for MXJ and knocked together a Java OSC library, which worked out much better. -- N. Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited www.cassiel.com www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom www.last.fm/music/cassiel www.loadbang.net From mpauley at mac.com Tue Nov 27 12:46:59 2007 From: mpauley at mac.com (Mark Pauley) Date: Tue Nov 27 12:47:04 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <1d4ff.472f266c@www.cycling74.com> References: <1d4ff.472f266c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <59D17156-737B-4CD9-A210-78B59386A5ED@mac.com> This could be an artifact of how pluggo's get params. If the pluggo doesn't match param changes with a timestamp and enqueue them to fire on the audio thread, then I would think that you've got maximum maybe two vectors of variance on the pp firing time (so if you've got a buffer size of around 1024 in logic, this would line up). My guess is that either all of the param changes fire at the beginning or at the end of a render callback. For giggles, could you try to set your buffer size much lower and much higher and then repeat the test? You should see a corresponding change in the variance of your pp timings. I know that logic is pretty strict about the outbound midi latency, but the plugins themselves are probably responsible for the time- accuracy of param changes. _Mark On Nov 5, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Mattijs Kneppers wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm monitoring the output of a pp inside a pluggo. > > Here is how it looks on my computer: > http://www.smadsteck.nl/Pluggo%20timer%20test%202.mov (1.6 MB, h264 > codec) > > As you can see, logic sends an event to the plugin every 1000 ms. > The events are also sent to max with midi. The interval between the > events inside the pluggo has an error of 20-40 ms. Sent to max with > midi, the events have a far smaller timing error: less than 1 ms. > > If a you could confirm this I would be very thankful. Here are the > source files (logic song, compiled pluggo, pluggo source patch and > midi timer patch): > http://www.smadsteck.nl/Pluggo%20timer%20test.zip > > Mattijs > > Max 4.6.3, Pluggo 3.6.1, Logic Pro 7.2.3 > -- > SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl > Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo From itsh at boredbrand.com Tue Nov 27 13:51:19 2007 From: itsh at boredbrand.com (gavin) Date: Tue Nov 27 13:51:22 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <6E94E697-E201-4D8E-8C48-2DA29839EDC4@cassiel.com> Message-ID: <1dd17.474c8347@www.cycling74.com> Is it difficult to implememnt this? Are your libraries available? If not would these ones work? http://www.illposed.com/software/javaosc.html Are there any dropped packets? Incidentally, UDPsend seems to work under Leopard and XP (with Live as host). Gavin From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Nov 27 14:11:15 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Nov 27 14:11:16 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <1dd17.474c8347@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1dd1b.474c87f3@www.cycling74.com> Quote: gavspav wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 21:51 ---------------------------------------------------- > Are your libraries available? Interested in that as well.. Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Nov 27 14:15:13 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Nov 27 14:15:15 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <1dd04.474c67c0@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1dd1c.474c88e1@www.cycling74.com> Hi Gavin, Thanks for your reply. Last time I checked it wasn't possible to send midi to another application than the host from within the plugin.. did this change in the mean time? Mattijs Quote: gavspav wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 19:53 ---------------------------------------------------- > Maybe you should try sending midi to max from within the plugin as well. > > Then you could maybe narrow down the problem. > > Gavin ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Nov 27 14:26:40 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Nov 27 14:26:42 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <59D17156-737B-4CD9-A210-78B59386A5ED@mac.com> Message-ID: <1dd1d.474c8b8f@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Mark Pauley wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 20:46 ---------------------------------------------------- > For giggles, could you try to set your buffer size much lower and much > higher and then repeat the test? You should see a corresponding > change in the variance of your pp timings. I think I'll be able to try this tomorrow.. > > I know that logic is pretty strict about the outbound midi latency, > but the plugins themselves are probably responsible for the time- > accuracy of param changes. The pluggo dev guide (under run time issues) says param changes happen in the scheduler thread, in audio interrupt mode. When the io vector of the host is 1024 samples, this inaccuracy makes sense. But: [mxj WhichThread] reports that pp's output in the main (low priority queue) thread: http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=23867&rid=3579&S=597abedcd552e997564678e83e476151#msg_121659 > > > _Mark > > On Nov 5, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Mattijs Kneppers wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm monitoring the output of a pp inside a pluggo. > > > > Here is how it looks on my computer: > > http://www.smadsteck.nl/Pluggo%20timer%20test%202.mov (1.6 MB, h264 > > codec) > > > > As you can see, logic sends an event to the plugin every 1000 ms. > > The events are also sent to max with midi. The interval between the > > events inside the pluggo has an error of 20-40 ms. Sent to max with > > midi, the events have a far smaller timing error: less than 1 ms. > > > > If a you could confirm this I would be very thankful. Here are the > > source files (logic song, compiled pluggo, pluggo source patch and > > midi timer patch): > > http://www.smadsteck.nl/Pluggo%20timer%20test.zip > > > > Mattijs > > > > Max 4.6.3, Pluggo 3.6.1, Logic Pro 7.2.3 > > -- > > SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl > > Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling > > ---------------------------------------------------- -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Wed Nov 28 02:35:31 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Wed Nov 28 02:35:32 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <1dd1b.474c87f3@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1dd55.474d3663@www.cycling74.com> Interesting: I just found out from the pluggodevguide that you can see pluggo messages in Console.app (in Applications/Utilities). When I close Logic I get: mach_port_deallocate(kernel_thread) failed: (os/kern) invalid name mach_port_mod_refs(reply_port) failed: (os/kern) invalid name Logic Pro(229,0x2eab200) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x28f5400; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug mach_port_deallocate(kernel_thread) failed: (os/kern) invalid name mach_port_mod_refs(reply_port) failed: (os/kern) invalid name Logic Pro(229,0x2efa800) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x2eab200; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug mach_port_deallocate(kernel_thread) failed: (os/kern) invalid name mach_port_mod_refs(reply_port) failed: (os/kern) invalid name Logic Pro(229,0x2f0b000) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x2efa800; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug mach_port_deallocate(kernel_thread) failed: (os/kern) invalid name mach_port_mod_refs(reply_port) failed: (os/kern) invalid name Logic Pro(229,0x2f20c00) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x2f0b000; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug mach_port_deallocate(kernel_thread) failed: (os/kern) invalid name mach_port_mod_refs(reply_port) failed: (os/kern) invalid name Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From eryck.abecassis at free.fr Wed Nov 28 03:38:07 2007 From: eryck.abecassis at free.fr (Eryck Abecassis) Date: Wed Nov 28 03:38:08 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Pluggo synth in Protools 7.3.1cs5 Message-ID: <1dd5b.474d450d@www.cycling74.com> Hello, I tried to work with the pluggo synth in protools without success neither on the aux tracks or the instruments racks ! none of the synth from the original pack have sound. do I miss something or is it a bug ? if it is, it's a hudge one (eurk !) thank you very much best Eryck -- www.eryckabecassis.com From itsh at boredbrand.com Wed Nov 28 06:17:29 2007 From: itsh at boredbrand.com (gavin) Date: Wed Nov 28 06:17:30 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <1dd55.474d3663@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1dd68.474d6a68@www.cycling74.com> That's interesting but what does it mean?! Gav From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Wed Nov 28 06:23:35 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Wed Nov 28 06:23:35 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: My noobie Plugin is crashing Ableton - UDPSend? In-Reply-To: <1dd68.474d6a68@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1dd69.474d6bd6@www.cycling74.com> Quote: gavspav wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 14:17 ---------------------------------------------------- > That's interesting but what does it mean?! > > Gav ---------------------------------------------------- Hehe, no idea. At least that something is reproducably wrong with udpsend in combination with pluggo. Perhaps for cycling '74 a lead to find out what's going on. Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From arthur at sauer.demon.nl Wed Nov 28 17:24:18 2007 From: arthur at sauer.demon.nl (Arthur Sauer) Date: Wed Nov 28 17:24:24 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Pluggo RTAS in PT 7.4? In-Reply-To: <1dc05.4746fb04@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: I'm having the same problem here. Reinstalling the last update 3.6.1 remdied the issue, but no pluggo in PT. OS 10.4.11 2.33 GHz Intel Laptop > > Hi, > > Pluggo 3.6.1 > OS 10.4.9 > > After finally narrowing it down that it was Pluggo that was keeping the new > Pro Tools 7.4 from opening on my G5, (worked fine in 7.3) I was wondering if > anyone else was having this issue? > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo > | Arthur Sauer | | < From andrew at cycling74.com Wed Nov 28 18:13:14 2007 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Wed Nov 28 18:13:18 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Pluggo RTAS in PT 7.4? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1ddc1.474e122a@www.cycling74.com> We've had reports of this - but we've not been able to reproduce. So far Pluggo and friends are working fine for us in PT 7.4 We are continuing to try and track it down though. If you get any more clues or are able to tell us anything more about the problem then please let us know. -A From randall at fader8.com Thu Nov 29 11:25:30 2007 From: randall at fader8.com (Randall) Date: Thu Nov 29 11:25:33 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Pluggo RTAS in PT 7.4? In-Reply-To: <1ddc1.474e122a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1ddf6.474f041a@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Andrew Pask wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 20:13 ---------------------------------------------------- > If you get any more clues or are able to tell us anything more about the problem then please let us know. ---------------------------------------------------- Will do. If I get any time this weekend, I'll try reinstalling 3.6.1 and see if it helps. Are there any pref/library files I should try deleting? From andrewb at cycling74.com Thu Nov 29 11:40:39 2007 From: andrewb at cycling74.com (Andrew Benson) Date: Thu Nov 29 11:40:46 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Pluggo RTAS in PT 7.4? In-Reply-To: <1ddf6.474f041a@www.cycling74.com> References: <1ddf6.474f041a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <474F07A7.6070603@cycling74.com> Here are a couple of bits of information that might help us to track down the problem, if you have a moment: --are you using PT LE or TDM/HD? --are you using a Intel or PowerPC Mac? --Have you tried downloading and installing PACE extensions again? --are you using iLok or Challenge/Response to authorize Pluggo? --Try pulling all of the plugins out of the Pluggo folder except for Generic Effect. Is it still crashing? Thanks for any time you can spend to help us track this issue down. Best, Andrew B. From andrewb at cycling74.com Thu Nov 29 11:45:01 2007 From: andrewb at cycling74.com (Andrew Benson) Date: Thu Nov 29 11:45:10 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Pluggo synth in Protools 7.3.1cs5 In-Reply-To: <1dd5b.474d450d@www.cycling74.com> References: <1dd5b.474d450d@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <474F08AD.9090307@cycling74.com> Hi There, This is a well-known problem with Pro Tools that has been around since they first introduced Instrument tracks. Unfortunately we haven't yet figured out how to get our synth plugins to respond to MIDI received on an Instrument track. The workaround is to load your synth plugin into an Audio track and then create a MIDI track that points to the synth plugin. I realize this is a little clumsy, but it is the most reliable way I have found to run instrument plugins in PT. Best, Andrew B. Eryck Abecassis wrote: > Hello, > I tried to work with the pluggo synth > in protools without success > neither on the aux tracks or the instruments racks ! > none of the synth from the original pack have sound. > do I miss something or is it a bug ? > if it is, it's a hudge one (eurk !) > > thank you very much > > best > Eryck > > > -- > www.eryckabecassis.com > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo > From dan at defectiverecords.com Thu Nov 29 12:04:57 2007 From: dan at defectiverecords.com (Dan Nigrin) Date: Thu Nov 29 12:05:09 2007 Subject: [pluggo] ANNOUNCE: Major Malfunction v2.0 Message-ID: Please pardon the brief self-promotion: Major Malfunction, my Mac OS X Pluggo-based slice/dicer/mangler/glitcher/FSU plugin specifically tailored for Ableton Live, is now updated to version 2.0. It has two primary new features: 1) Multiple effects may be activated per step - this is called "Multi Mode." In multi mode, users get to decide whether audio is to flow in parallel through the selected effects, or serially. If serially, users can rearrange the order of the effects (graphically) in any way they desire. (Roman, I figured out a reasonable way to do the UI for this!) Although it did not make it to the finished product, at one point in development I had a really cool "draggable" approach to moving the effects around, but it was too glitchy to release publicly. Instead I ended up using the left/right arrows that you see in the released version. 2) Significantly lower CPU consumption - behind the scenes, all the effects are now poly~'d, and are turned on only when active. In previous versions, all effects were consuming CPU at all times, even if they were being used or not on a particular step. More info at http://www.defectiverecords.com/majormalfunction - demo version available. And many thanks to all those who have helped me along the way, and/or provided their externals! (Peter Elsea and Jasch). Thanks, Dan -- Dan Nigrin Defective Records 202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major Malfunction http://www.defectiverecords.com http://www.jackosx.com From itsh at boredbrand.com Fri Nov 30 02:56:11 2007 From: itsh at boredbrand.com (gavin) Date: Fri Nov 30 02:56:13 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <1d4ff.472f266c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1de58.474fde3b@www.cycling74.com> I don't understand it and I'm guessing i'm wrong... but couldn't the Sync Mode help you? Gavin From itsh at boredbrand.com Fri Nov 30 03:05:41 2007 From: itsh at boredbrand.com (gavin) Date: Fri Nov 30 03:05:50 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <1de58.474fde3b@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1de59.474fe075@www.cycling74.com> Aah No it couldn't. Soz gav From per at soon.com Fri Nov 30 03:14:39 2007 From: per at soon.com (Bas van der Graaff) Date: Fri Nov 30 03:14:41 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <1de59.474fe075@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1de5b.474fe28f@www.cycling74.com> Quote: gavspav wrote on Fri, 30 November 2007 11:05 ---------------------------------------------------- > Aah No it couldn't. Soz > > gav ---------------------------------------------------- Ah, that's a pity. Thanks for sparking a short moment of hope though.. it felt nice as long as it lasted :) Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Fri Nov 30 03:15:59 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Fri Nov 30 03:16:01 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Events seem to enter pluggo with highly inaccurate timing. In-Reply-To: <1de5b.474fe28f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1de5c.474fe2df@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Bas van der Graaff wrote on Fri, 30 November 2007 11:14 ---------------------------------------------------- > Quote: gavspav wrote on Fri, 30 November 2007 11:05 > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Aah No it couldn't. Soz > > > > gav > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Ah, that's a pity. Thanks for sparking a short moment of hope though.. it felt nice as long as it lasted :) > > Mattijs ---------------------------------------------------- oops -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From eryck.abecassis at free.fr Fri Nov 30 06:26:41 2007 From: eryck.abecassis at free.fr (Eryck Abecassis) Date: Fri Nov 30 06:26:43 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Pluggo synth in Protools 7.3.1cs5 In-Reply-To: <474F08AD.9090307@cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1de6c.47500f91@www.cycling74.com> Ok, thank you your workaround works fine, and I remenber now that this problem appears one year ago. But I believed that the problem was not anymore one. Best Eryck -- www.eryckabecassis.com