From bradcariou at shaw.ca Wed Oct 3 22:20:30 2007 From: bradcariou at shaw.ca (bradcariou) Date: Wed Oct 3 22:20:35 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: can't run authorisation application? In-Reply-To: <1b5b1.46b74720@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1c97d.47046a0d@www.cycling74.com> I had this problem when I had to re-authorize Pluggo after the motherboard in my laptop was replaced. I solved it by running the Pace pre-binding script you can find here: http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/FAQs/MacUpdate1049. Hope this helps. Brad From mitchell.brooke at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 18:22:00 2007 From: mitchell.brooke at gmail.com (brooke mitchell) Date: Fri Oct 5 18:22:03 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: OS X Pluggo 3.5.4 AU + Live 5.2.1 = crash? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1ca9b.4706d528@www.cycling74.com> Ignore my previous message. The problem seems to be related solely to presets in this one particular plugin. From tommy at mamito.com Sat Oct 6 05:58:27 2007 From: tommy at mamito.com (tommy) Date: Sat Oct 6 05:58:29 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Installing Pluggo 3.6 to be used with max 4.6.2 having Max 4.5 on Computer Message-ID: <1cacf.47077863@www.cycling74.com> Can I install Pluggo latest version on my computer which is running max the latest (4.6.3) and also max 4.5 (that i need to use with old patches)? if i do it that means that i damage max 4.5 or that i just cannot play pluggo plugins with max 4.5? or does it create conflicts? thanx in advance regards From tommy at mamito.com Sat Oct 6 06:01:45 2007 From: tommy at mamito.com (tommy) Date: Sat Oct 6 06:01:46 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Installing Pluggo 3.6 to be used with max 4.6.2 having Max 4.5 on Computer In-Reply-To: <1cacf.47077863@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1cad1.47077928@www.cycling74.com> I also add: when i try to install pluggo it says that im installing an older software on a newer that's already on my computer. Having max/msp/jitter 4.6.3 on pc and no versions of pluggo on it, this doesn't make sense to me. Any suggestion? From aeigenfeldt at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 14:34:32 2007 From: aeigenfeldt at gmail.com (Arne Eigenfeldt) Date: Sat Oct 6 14:34:34 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Clearing audio buffers Message-ID: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> I'm wondering if other plugin developers have an easy solution for this problem. In Logic (7, 8, and Express), whenever I have audio going into a plugin, and stop the transport before the region is done, move the transport to another location without audio and restart, I get the previous audio buffer (something like 100 ms) continuing to loop. I'm guessing this is pluggo's audio buffer, since it doesn't involve any buffer~ objects in the plugin. The only way to clear this loop is to allow the audio region to play through to its end, thereby emptying its audio buffers. This wasn't too big a deal with only one plugin, but when I have multiple tracks with plugins and overlapping audio, I'm always ending up with this nagging problem. So, am I missing a simple solution to automatically clear the audio buffers when the transport starts? Mac 10.4.10 (but occurred on previous versions) Logic 7, 8, Express MacBook Pro (but occurs on any machine) 4GB ram From laut_leise at gmx.net Sun Oct 7 09:59:37 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Sun Oct 7 09:59:39 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1cb37.47090269@www.cycling74.com> this happens only in logic and that since version 4.3 - sorry this isnt a solution at all, i know. be lucky that you are only looping and changing the song position, worst is when you run plug-ins which do inter-plug-in audio (aka pluggobus, send~, send ...) -- http://vst-mac.info/ From mpauley at mac.com Sun Oct 7 16:18:08 2007 From: mpauley at mac.com (Mark Pauley) Date: Sun Oct 7 16:18:12 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> References: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: This is likely due to a failure of pluggo to properly handle the reset notification from the host. In this case, you'll have this issue until pluggo is updated. The reset notification is a signal to an audio unit to clear it's state and re-initialize any internal buffers it might have, this is done at the host's discression. The init notification lets the audio unit know it's time to initialize the state and allocate any buffers it may need (it's guaranteed to be called by a host before any processing is done). There was just a back and forth on the CoreAudio mailing list about this. _Mark On Oct 6, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Arne Eigenfeldt wrote: > > I'm wondering if other plugin developers have an easy solution for > this problem. > > In Logic (7, 8, and Express), whenever I have audio going into a > plugin, and stop the transport before the region is done, move the > transport to another location without audio and restart, I get the > previous audio buffer (something like 100 ms) continuing to loop. > I'm guessing this is pluggo's audio buffer, since it doesn't involve > any buffer~ objects in the plugin. > > The only way to clear this loop is to allow the audio region to play > through to its end, thereby emptying its audio buffers. > > This wasn't too big a deal with only one plugin, but when I have > multiple tracks with plugins and overlapping audio, I'm always > ending up with this nagging problem. > > So, am I missing a simple solution to automatically clear the audio > buffers when the transport starts? > > Mac 10.4.10 (but occurred on previous versions) > Logic 7, 8, Express > MacBook Pro (but occurs on any machine) > 4GB ram > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo From laut_leise at gmx.net Tue Oct 9 05:28:43 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Tue Oct 9 05:28:45 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1cbe5.470b65ea@www.cycling74.com> Quote: Mark Pauley wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 16:18 ---------------------------------------------------- > This is likely due to a failure of pluggo to properly handle the reset > notification from the host. and what is the explanation for the same problem in the unsophi(a)-isicated ancient VST version of LAP? :) -- http://vst-mac.info/ From mpauley at mac.com Tue Oct 9 13:14:22 2007 From: mpauley at mac.com (Mark Pauley) Date: Tue Oct 9 13:14:26 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cbe5.470b65ea@www.cycling74.com> References: <1cbe5.470b65ea@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <5B9972F2-DF7E-4272-A4B8-935755C2D857@mac.com> Sorry, you're right. I may have jumped to a conclusion here. If this is only happening with Logic, and it's only happening on audio-tracks then I suppose I can see how this might be a Logic bug, but I'm still skeptical ;) . Possibly Logic doesn't send the reset message in this case. Could you check the input of a pluggo that reproduces this problem with like a scope~ or something to see what kind of garbage Logic is sending pluggo? Perhaps logic is pulling from pluggo on one side of the graph, but not feeding pluggo on the other side and so the pluggo runtime is not advancing / zeroing the output buffer. I have not had this problem with my pluggo's nor with any other audio unit plugins that I've used, but then again I can't recall an instance of doing exactly what you are talking about. I'll try to reproduce this issue tonight. _Mark On Oct 9, 2007, at 4:28 AM, Roman Thilenius wrote: > > Quote: Mark Pauley wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 16:18 > ---------------------------------------------------- >> This is likely due to a failure of pluggo to properly handle the >> reset >> notification from the host. > > > and what is the explanation for the same problem in > the unsophi(a)-isicated ancient VST version of LAP? :) > -- > http://vst-mac.info/ > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo From lister at sonicescape.net Tue Oct 9 17:18:26 2007 From: lister at sonicescape.net (Jakob Riis) Date: Tue Oct 9 17:18:38 2007 Subject: [pluggo] vst~ 4th outlet revisited Message-ID: <20071009231826.1967017454@mail2.bahnhof.se> Hi. I have problem with Pluggo and vst~. Didn't get any response on the max list, but hopefully here... I've had troubles with the 4th outlet of vst~ before. And now I discovered a new issue that I think must have been introduced with my switch from MaxMSP 4.5 on PPC to MaxMSP 4.6 on intelmac. The problem is that when a new preset program are selected inside the user interface of a Plugggo vst plug-in, no parameter values are reported out the 4th outlet of the vst~ object. I need this functionality for a multiuser system where we exchange data from the vst parameter values over udp network. (Things are OK when sliders etc. are moved inside the plug, and I have a workaround to get the values when new program presets are selected outside the plug-in.) My setup is: MacBook Pro, 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Max OS X 10.4.10. MaxMSP 4.6.3, Jitter 1.6, Pluggo 3.6.1 This patch should illustrate the problem: #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 339 181 30 196617 t b s; #P number 73 430 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 90 403 62 196617 prepend set; #P newex 19 67 180 196617 loadmess plug "Average Injector.vst"; #P message 271 21 33 196617 clear; #P window linecount 3; #P comment 484 324 158 196617 BUT when a new preset program are selected inside the plug-in \, no parameter values are reported; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 297 232 49 196617 delay 10; #P user ubumenu 271 42 118 196617 0 1 1 0; #X add "Average Injector.vst"; #X add Chamberverb.vst; #X add "Feedback Network.vst"; #X add FilterTaps.vst; #X add "Generic Effect.vst"; #X add "HF Ring Mod.vst"; #X add Jet.vst; #X add Limi.vst; #X add Nebula.vst; #X add Resonation.vst; #X add Resosweep.vst; #X add "Spectral Filter.vst"; #X prefix_set 0 1 /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/Pluggo/ 0; #P newex 269 70 66 196617 prepend plug; #P newex 349 283 49 196617 delay 25; #P comment 137 433 27 196617 <--; #P window linecount 4; #P comment 170 416 185 196617 ekstra system to get parameter values out of 4th outlet of vst~ when pluggo program is changed from the outside the plug-in (ubumenu); #P window linecount 1; #P newex 103 480 62 196617 prepend get; #P newex 73 456 40 196617 uzi; #P newex 90 379 48 196617 route -4; #P message 524 365 30 196617 open; #P newex 349 253 27 196617 + 1; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 14.; #P newex 71 227 50 196622 print; #B color 5; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 349 204 78 196617 prepend append; #P user ubumenu 349 231 100 196617 0 1 1 0; #X add Vibrato; #X add Flange; #X add Chorus; #X add "White Chorus"; #X add Double; #X add Takeoff; #X add "Cheap Spring"; #X add "Squeeze Flange"; #X add "Machine Gun Vibrato"; #X add "from the planet Xorx"; #X add "more from Xorx"; #X add "Subtle Depression"; #X add "Distorted Flange"; #X add Bulbous; #X add "Large Bathroom"; #X add "Mind of its Own"; #X add "Percussive Xorx"; #X add "Xorx Fabric Softener"; #X add "Mellow Xorx"; #X add "Mistuned AM Radio"; #X prefix_set 0 0 0; #P message 443 205 33 196617 clear; #P message 227 118 56 196617 pgmnames; #P newex 269 94 40 196617 t b s b; #N vst~ loaduniqueid 0; #P newobj 284 159 79 196617 vst~; #P newex 588 72 31 196617 dac~; #P newex 588 44 111 196617 loadmess startwindow; #P window linecount 5; #P comment 484 222 158 196617 when changing the preset program here \, no parameter values are printet. So the extra system is needed to get the values.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 455 233 27 196617 <--; #P message 297 325 38 196617 get -4; #P fasten 6 2 8 0 304 117 448 117; #P connect 6 1 5 0; #P connect 20 0 6 0; #P fasten 25 0 6 0 24 93 274 93; #P fasten 6 0 7 0 274 114 232 114; #P fasten 5 5 28 0 354 179 344 179; #P fasten 28 1 10 0 364 201 354 201; #P connect 28 0 22 0; #P connect 5 3 11 0; #P fasten 19 0 27 0 78 376; #P connect 26 0 27 0; #P connect 27 0 15 0; #P fasten 5 3 14 0 328 183 95 310; #P connect 14 0 26 0; #P connect 15 2 16 0; #P fasten 21 1 20 0 330 64 274 64; #P connect 24 0 21 0; #P fasten 12 0 5 0 354 274 263 274 263 154 289 154; #P fasten 7 0 5 0 232 138 289 138; #P fasten 13 0 5 0 529 391 222 391 222 146 289 146; #P fasten 0 0 5 0 302 350 233 350 233 150 289 150; #P fasten 16 0 5 0 108 504 23 504 23 143 289 143; #P connect 22 0 0 0; #P fasten 8 0 9 0 448 226 354 226; #P connect 10 0 9 0; #P connect 9 0 12 0; #P connect 12 0 19 0; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P window clipboard copycount 29; __________________________________ Jakob Riis New! jr.abstractions for MaxMSP http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/ __________________________________ From laut_leise at gmx.net Wed Oct 10 08:14:29 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Wed Oct 10 08:14:31 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <5B9972F2-DF7E-4272-A4B8-935755C2D857@mac.com> Message-ID: <1cc72.470cde45@www.cycling74.com> --------------------------------------- i know this issue from custom plug-ins i built for friends. they were sending audio between plug-in and it was a big mess as soon as you started to set a loop in LAP (OS 9) btw, what would support your theory is the fact that it only happens with pluggo (and only in logic). i will let you know when i found an excuse. From laut_leise at gmx.net Wed Oct 10 08:40:48 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Wed Oct 10 08:40:50 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cc72.470cde45@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1cc74.470ce470@www.cycling74.com> oh btw: isnt there this "has tail" flag in plugconfig since a while? would that make a diff for him? -- http://vst-mac.info/ From mpauley at mac.com Wed Oct 10 12:21:35 2007 From: mpauley at mac.com (Mark Pauley) Date: Wed Oct 10 12:21:40 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cc72.470cde45@www.cycling74.com> References: <1cc72.470cde45@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <155E3E40-5AB0-47BE-873B-3920DB4334C2@mac.com> Well, for instance I know for sure that I've looped audio tracks that have built-in logic plugins and even the cyan from reaktor and I haven't seen this issue. _Mark On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Roman Thilenius wrote: > > --------------------------------------- > > > i know this issue from custom plug-ins i built for friends. > > they were sending audio between plug-in and it was a > big mess as soon as you started to set a loop in LAP (OS 9) > > btw, what would support your theory is the fact that it > only happens with pluggo (and only in logic). > i will let you know when i found an excuse. > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo From bart at magic.be Sat Oct 13 08:37:45 2007 From: bart at magic.be (bart) Date: Sat Oct 13 08:37:48 2007 Subject: [pluggo] pluggo junior 3.6.1 problem Message-ID: <1cdc6.4710d839@www.cycling74.com> Hi, I am using an older version of pluggo junior for years without problems. Now i have installed pluggo junior 3.6.1 and a lot of pluggo plug-in's aren't working anymore?? Weird? I need special the gd pluggo vst's from Greg Davis working again. tips, tics, new gd pluggo plugs all are welkom. thanks in advance, bart From rui_guerreiro at mac.com Sun Oct 14 08:18:26 2007 From: rui_guerreiro at mac.com (Rui Guerreiro) Date: Sun Oct 14 08:18:29 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Popcorn preset (lofi drums instrument) crashes Logic 8 Message-ID: <1ce0a.47122531@www.cycling74.com> Hi everyone! Popcorn preset from lofi drums instrument is crashing Logic 8. Anyone experiencing this? It's not that I use that preset a lot, but I might open it by mistake and theregoes my session... Any takers for what I should do? Thanks a lot. From rui_guerreiro at mac.com Sun Oct 14 08:24:31 2007 From: rui_guerreiro at mac.com (Rui Guerreiro) Date: Sun Oct 14 08:24:32 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Popcorn preset (lofi drums instrument) crashes Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1ce0a.47122531@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1ce0b.4712269f@www.cycling74.com> Correction: Mod Wheel Squeedgy preset also crashes Logic 8... The rest of the presets work just fine. From cycling at editions-ihs.com Mon Oct 15 03:29:07 2007 From: cycling at editions-ihs.com (Salvator) Date: Mon Oct 15 03:29:16 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1ce3b.471332de@www.cycling74.com> This is a woraround I use to get rid of the clics at the begining of the region. hope this may help, Salvator #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 43 60 74 196617 plugin~; #P newex 166 53 52 196617 dspstate~; #P newex 166 77 44 196617 select 1; #P message 166 100 65 196617 0 \, 1. 10 0.8; #P newex 166 120 42 196617 curve~; #P comment 210 123 79 196617 SMOOTH START; #P user panel 162 47 129 97; #X brgb 248 234 198; #X frgb 146 137 20; #X border 1; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P newex 107 139 27 196617 *~; #P newex 43 139 27 196617 *~; #P newex 43 187 74 196617 plugout~; #P hidden connect 5 0 1 1; #P lcolor 1; #P hidden connect 5 0 2 1; #P lcolor 1; #P connect 9 1 2 0; #P connect 9 0 1 0; #P hidden connect 1 0 0 0; #P hidden connect 2 0 0 1; #P hidden connect 8 0 7 0; #P hidden connect 7 0 6 0; #P hidden connect 6 0 5 0; #P window clipboard copycount 10; From cycling at editions-ihs.com Mon Oct 15 03:29:50 2007 From: cycling at editions-ihs.com (Salvator) Date: Mon Oct 15 03:29:52 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Clearing audio buffers In-Reply-To: <1cafc.4707f158@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1ce3c.4713330e@www.cycling74.com> This is a woraround I use to get rid of the clics at the begining of the regions. Hope this help, Salvator #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 43 60 74 196617 plugin~; #P newex 166 53 52 196617 dspstate~; #P newex 166 77 44 196617 select 1; #P message 166 100 65 196617 0 \, 1. 10 0.8; #P newex 166 120 42 196617 curve~; #P comment 210 123 79 196617 SMOOTH START; #P user panel 162 47 129 97; #X brgb 248 234 198; #X frgb 146 137 20; #X border 1; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P newex 107 139 27 196617 *~; #P newex 43 139 27 196617 *~; #P newex 43 187 74 196617 plugout~; #P hidden connect 5 0 1 1; #P lcolor 1; #P hidden connect 5 0 2 1; #P lcolor 1; #P connect 9 1 2 0; #P connect 9 0 1 0; #P hidden connect 1 0 0 0; #P hidden connect 2 0 0 1; #P hidden connect 8 0 7 0; #P hidden connect 7 0 6 0; #P hidden connect 6 0 5 0; #P window clipboard copycount 10; From jacopo at lan-muzic.com Tue Oct 16 11:03:21 2007 From: jacopo at lan-muzic.com (Jabbo) Date: Tue Oct 16 11:03:22 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: OS X Pluggo 3.5.4 AU + Live 5.2.1 = crash? In-Reply-To: <1ca9b.4706d528@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1cead.4714eed9@www.cycling74.com> I keep having a crash too, especially if there is a umenu in the patch. MacIntel 2.0 GHz Max/MSP 4.6.3 Live 5.2 From lmspam at neuropop.com Fri Oct 19 05:54:04 2007 From: lmspam at neuropop.com (Lance) Date: Fri Oct 19 05:54:06 2007 Subject: [pluggo] intercepting MIDI in Logic 8 Message-ID: <1cfa1.47189adb@www.cycling74.com> I want to create a plugin to insert on instrument tracks in Logic 8. The purpose is to grab the midi from the track, process it, and then have the instrument play the modified midi (instead of what was in the original track). Is this possible? And how? Thanks, L From aeigenfeldt at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 10:31:55 2007 From: aeigenfeldt at gmail.com (Arne Eigenfeldt) Date: Sat Oct 20 10:31:57 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: intercepting MIDI in Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1cfa1.47189adb@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1cff8.471a2d7a@www.cycling74.com> You can access MIDI data via the I/O in Logic, rather than the audio insert - your plugin needs to be a synth. Unfortunately, you will be using up the only synth plugin strip, and so cannot send your processed MIDI to a synth instrument. You'll have to generate your own audio (or send the MIDI to Max via rewire, and then send to back to Logic). But, as a previous thread mentioned, there are potential latency issues. From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 11:47:00 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Oct 20 11:47:02 2007 Subject: [pluggo] plug config complexity Message-ID: <1cffc.471a3f14@www.cycling74.com> ok, my plugin interface window doesn't seem to resize no matter what I do to plug config. I just started using pluggo and there doesn't seem to be an explanation of the text in plug config in the help file, nor very much explanation of how to resize the plugin window without using the plug config text. could someone just briefly overview the plugconfig text for me so that I can see my whole interface window? I really can't fix any of my patch's bugs without seeing the whole window thanks. first post by the way -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 13:02:31 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Oct 20 13:02:48 2007 Subject: [pluggo] pluggo coll problem? Message-ID: <1d002.471a50c6@www.cycling74.com> hey there pluggo sends me the message that the files for my colls don't exist and as a result dont seem to be saving any information into them. Do i need to use another object or configure the plugin differently or what? thx -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From laut_leise at gmx.net Sat Oct 20 13:12:07 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Sat Oct 20 13:12:09 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: plug config complexity In-Reply-To: <1cffc.471a3f14@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d003.471a5307@www.cycling74.com> Quote: theblackpeacock wrote on Sat, 20 October 2007 11:47 ---------------------------------------------------- > ok, my plugin interface window doesn't seem to resize no matter what I do to plug config. I just started using pluggo and there doesn't seem to be an explanation of the text in plug config in the help file, nor very much explanation of how to resize the plugin window without using the plug config text. > > could someone just briefly overview the plugconfig text for me so that I can see my whole interface window? I really can't fix any of my patch's bugs without seeing the whole window > > thanks. first post by the way ---------------------------------------------------- remove the "autosize" line if there is still one, then it should work in all hosts. and of course: make sure that this is your _only_ copy of the plugconfig object in the patch. -- http://vst-mac.info/ From laut_leise at gmx.net Sat Oct 20 13:23:20 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Sat Oct 20 13:23:21 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: pluggo coll problem? In-Reply-To: <1d002.471a50c6@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d004.471a55a7@www.cycling74.com> Quote: theblackpeacock wrote on Sat, 20 October 2007 13:02 ---------------------------------------------------- > hey there > > pluggo sends me the message that the files for my colls don't exist and as a result dont seem to be saving any information into them. Do i need to use another object or configure the plugin differently or what? > > thx ---------------------------------------------------- maxmsp runtime will send the same message when a coll has a name. you can ignore this message, it is the error message whats wrong here. -- http://vst-mac.info/ From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 14:11:28 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Oct 20 14:11:31 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: plug config complexity In-Reply-To: <1d003.471a5307@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d006.471a60f0@www.cycling74.com> ok i got it working thank you -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 14:36:32 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sat Oct 20 14:36:35 2007 Subject: [pluggo] finnicky metro Message-ID: <1d007.471a66d0@www.cycling74.com> man, this is not my pluggo day. I'm warning you right now i'm going to have a lot more of these. the metro that i'm using to mimic the host clock is going nuts. It's being sent the value of the host clock but it sends out bangs pretty much as fast as it can go. I'm sending it tempos in in bmp, but still i have it around 120 and i'm positive it's being sent that value. tried replacing it and it still happens. is there a way out of this? thx -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From laut_leise at gmx.net Sat Oct 20 15:47:17 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Sat Oct 20 15:47:18 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: finnicky metro In-Reply-To: <1d007.471a66d0@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d009.471a7765@www.cycling74.com> Quote: theblackpeacock wrote on Sat, 20 October 2007 14:36 ---------------------------------------------------- > man, this is not my pluggo day. I'm warning you right now i'm going to have a lot more of these. > > the metro that i'm using to mimic the host clock is going nuts. It's being sent the value of the host clock but it sends out bangs pretty much as fast as it can go. I'm sending it tempos in in bmp, but still i have it around 120 and i'm positive it's being sent that value. tried replacing it and it still happens. is there a way out of this? > > thx ---------------------------------------------------- there is no reason to use a metro in a pluggo and link it to host tempo - which is not supported in all situations - it is much better to use f.e. bars and beats from [plugsync] btw for such specific questions always tell us what program you are using your plug-ins in, and if mac or pc and what else could be relevant. (gender? favorite food?) -- http://vst-mac.info/ From theblackpeacock at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 00:21:40 2007 From: theblackpeacock at gmail.com (eli) Date: Sun Oct 21 00:21:42 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: finnicky metro In-Reply-To: <1d009.471a7765@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d010.471aeff3@www.cycling74.com> ok, i'm using ableton 5.2 on a pc. I used the beat count from plugsync~ with the same results. the outlet that tells me which outlets are supported sends a 31, which i'm not sure what to make of as it doesn't appear in the reference manual. All that i'm getting both with the metro and the beat count is a buzz. The wierd thing is that the metro was recieving the right values from plugsync~ but still just kept going as fast as it could. If it weren't for this one stupid glitch i would have a fully functional probablistic drum machine for when i go on the radio tomorrow. grrrrr my favorite food is probably indian food. Samosas -- www.myspace.com/theblackpeacock NOISE BIATCH! From c.veit at inode.at Sun Oct 21 06:35:23 2007 From: c.veit at inode.at (Christian Veit) Date: Sun Oct 21 06:35:24 2007 Subject: [pluggo] vst plugin with mxj class Message-ID: <1d024.471b478a@www.cycling74.com> i am trying to write my first plugin which should send midi data from ableton live to my max/msp patch. i am using this simple patch: max v2; #N vpatcher 295 113 895 513; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 132 93 218 9109513 mxj net.udp.send @address 127.0.0.1 @port 7000; #P newex 93 128 55 9109513 plugmidiout; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 1 1 1 1; #C numprograms 64; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C autosize; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 0; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C uniqueid 192 200 225; #C initialpgm 1; #P newobj 349 61 51 9109513 plugconfig; #P newex 132 63 49 9109513 plugmidiin; #P fasten 0 0 2 0 137 88 98 88; #P connect 0 0 3 0; #P pop; if i try to copy my dll to my vst Folder: c:\Programme\Cycling '74\vstplugins ableton live is stopping to load when trying to load my plugin. so i 've searched the forum about some related issues and found out that i have to copy my java class files to my plugin folder.. i've tried to do that but now the behavior is that when loading my plugin dll ableton live is shutting down. i am using ableton live 6.0.10, max/msp 4.6.3, jitter 1.6.3, pluggo runtime 3.6.1, jre 1.6.0_03 on win xp home SP2... hope anyone can help me.. c. From lmspam at neuropop.com Sun Oct 21 11:31:20 2007 From: lmspam at neuropop.com (Lance) Date: Sun Oct 21 11:31:21 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: intercepting MIDI in Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <1cff8.471a2d7a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d037.471b8ce8@www.cycling74.com> I was afraid of that --I was using the Logic "Environment" to grab the MIDI, send it directly into Max, and then used another Environment object to route the MIDI back into Logic. It doesn't need rewire, but it's still a pain... From mdschloss at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:28:40 2007 From: mdschloss at gmail.com (Matt Schloss) Date: Wed Oct 24 11:28:41 2007 Subject: [pluggo] file locations for plugins Message-ID: <1d13d.471f80c8@www.cycling74.com> I've created a VST pluggo plugin that plays audio files from buffer. In MAX, there's a default folder to put the files into. When the plugin is hosted in an app, like ableton live, where does it look for files? Is there a way to specify a certain file path? I'd like to auto load these files, rather than the user select "open" or "read". Thanks, matt From mdschloss at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:34:46 2007 From: mdschloss at gmail.com (Matt Schloss) Date: Wed Oct 24 11:34:48 2007 Subject: [pluggo] plugconfig package data? Message-ID: <1d140.471f8235@www.cycling74.com> I've made some plugins... They work fine in Ableton Live 5.2 on an Intel Mac. But on a G4, the midi input data isn't passed from Live to the plugin. The functionality of the plugin works fine, but doesn't receive data from the pp objects. I'm getting an error in the max window, package undefined. On the Intel Mac, there is no error. The package is defined in plugconfig as ???? If I delete the package line, the next time i open plugconfig, it's there again. If I change ???? to 0 or 1, it says that value isn't allowed. What does all this mean? Is this why midi data isn't being passed or is there another problem? From c74-mailinglists at e--j.com Wed Oct 24 15:27:33 2007 From: c74-mailinglists at e--j.com (Emmanuel Jourdan) Date: Wed Oct 24 15:27:45 2007 Subject: [pluggo] file locations for plugins In-Reply-To: <1d13d.471f80c8@www.cycling74.com> References: <1d13d.471f80c8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: On 24 oct. 07, at 19:28, Matt Schloss wrote: > I've created a VST pluggo plugin that plays audio files from > buffer. In MAX, there's a default folder to put the files into. > When the plugin is hosted in an app, like ableton live, where does > it look for files? Is there a way to specify a certain file path? > I'd like to auto load these files, rather than the user select > "open" or "read". You can put the files in /Library/Application Support/C74 Plug-in Support which is the default search path in pluggo. HTH, ej From laut_leise at gmx.net Wed Oct 24 18:00:50 2007 From: laut_leise at gmx.net (Roman Thilenius) Date: Wed Oct 24 18:00:52 2007 Subject: [pluggo] plugconfig package data? In-Reply-To: <1d140.471f8235@www.cycling74.com> References: <1d140.471f8235@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <20071025000050.47110@gmx.net> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:34:46 -0400 > Von: Matt Schloss > An: pluggo@cycling74.com > Betreff: [pluggo] plugconfig package data? > > I've made some plugins... > They work fine in Ableton Live 5.2 on an Intel Mac. > But on a G4, the midi input data isn't passed from Live to the plugin. > The functionality of the plugin works fine, but doesn't receive data from the > pp objects. > > I'm getting an error in the max window, package undefined. > On the Intel Mac, there is no error. > > The package is defined in plugconfig as ???? > If I delete the package line, the next time i open plugconfig, it's there > again. If I change ???? to 0 or 1, it says that value isn't allowed. What > does all this mean? Is this why midi data isn't being passed or is there > another problem? the problem is that you have to understand that midi, pp, and macintosh creator code are three problems completly independent from each other. :) how does you patch look like? what are trying to do and what is not working as exspected? -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal f?r Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From droolcup at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 05:39:53 2007 From: droolcup at gmail.com (Scott Fitzgerald) Date: Fri Oct 26 05:39:57 2007 Subject: [pluggo] authorization weirdness Message-ID: <1d1bf.4721d206@www.cycling74.com> Not so much an issue as I discovered a workaround, but thought it may be of interest to some. When I tried to open the Authorize Pluggo application (OSX10.4.10, Macbook Pro, 2ghz, 2g ram) nothing would happen. The application wouldn't appear in the dock, open, register at all, nada. I was able to authorize opening the application using Rosetta. 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0x92dcffff com.apple.CommonPanels 1.2.3 (73) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels 0x92dd4000 - 0x930c9fff com.apple.HIToolbox 1.4.9 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox Like I said, opening in Rosetta worked fine, but thought someone may benefit from this. ~s From bradcariou at shaw.ca Fri Oct 26 10:08:30 2007 From: bradcariou at shaw.ca (BDC) Date: Fri Oct 26 10:08:32 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: authorization weirdness In-Reply-To: <1d1bf.4721d206@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d1d8.472210fd@www.cycling74.com> I had the same problem recently. I got the authorization app to run by first using the PACE pre-binding script you can find here: http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/FAQs/MacUpdate1049. From mdschloss at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 12:37:35 2007 From: mdschloss at gmail.com (Matt Schloss) Date: Fri Oct 26 12:37:37 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: plugconfig package data? In-Reply-To: <20071025000050.47110@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1d1e8.472233ee@www.cycling74.com> Ok, attached is my max patch, chable2. I'll attach the VST plugin in the next message. The problem is, the plugin works by clicking the number boxes with the mouse, but the pp objects are not receiving midi data. As I've said, it works on a Mac Pro, but not on a G4 laptop... Both are running pluggo 3.6, and both are running live 5.x Thanks for any help... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: ._chable2.vst Type: application/octet-stream Size: 82 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/pluggo/attachments/20071026/9d9c7824/_chable2.obj From c.veit at inode.at Sat Oct 27 06:02:05 2007 From: c.veit at inode.at (Christian Veit) Date: Sat Oct 27 06:02:08 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: vst plugin with mxj class In-Reply-To: <1d024.471b478a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d202.472328bd@www.cycling74.com> can anybody give me a hint? would be fine... c. From electrobass at gmx.net Sun Oct 28 10:05:32 2007 From: electrobass at gmx.net (micha) Date: Sun Oct 28 10:05:34 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: vst plugin with mxj class In-Reply-To: <1d202.472328bd@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d24f.4724b34c@www.cycling74.com> hm, normally i don't copy the class files over to the plugin, as i don't plan to distribute them, and with this i am able to develop further on that class. what works for me (under xp): there is a second max java config file under programs/shared files/C74 Plug-in Support/java...if you set the dynamic classpath there to point to your classes, they should be found. nevertheless i think there was a thread on where to put your classes with respect to the patch if you don't want to modify any config file, search the list for "mxj same directory"... micha From c.veit at inode.at Sun Oct 28 11:11:45 2007 From: c.veit at inode.at (Christian Veit) Date: Sun Oct 28 11:11:48 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: vst plugin with mxj class In-Reply-To: <1d24f.4724b34c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d253.4724c2d1@www.cycling74.com> sorry my mistake.. i don't have written a mxj class by myself i'am using the send class of the net.udp package which is included with max/msp.. so i shouldn't have to copy the class files to my plugin directory.. i think that pluggo should find this class because it's already under ../C74-Plugin Support/java/classes/net/udp maybe there is another problem within my patch!? or the problem is in second max.java.config but, i ve looked at differences between the config file i've been using in max and the one witch pluggo is using.. and found nothing.. From electrobass at gmx.net Mon Oct 29 04:46:58 2007 From: electrobass at gmx.net (micha) Date: Mon Oct 29 04:47:03 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: vst plugin with mxj class In-Reply-To: <1d253.4724c2d1@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d293.4725ba21@www.cycling74.com> ah, ok, just replied without testing it. but here everything is working, allthough there is a general flaw in it. if you want to receive midi in a pluggo, you've got to specify in the plugconfig that the plugin is a instrument via the line: #C synth; anyway, what do you exactly mean by: "ableton live is stopping to load when trying to load my plugin" ? if live is crashing on startup: did you try to change the max java config (for pluggo!) like described here: http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/FAQs/WindowsJavaCrash micha From splash-music at gmx.ch Mon Oct 29 09:28:11 2007 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Mon Oct 29 09:28:13 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Filtergraph Object Message-ID: <1d2aa.4725fc0a@www.cycling74.com> Hi, I tried to program a plugin with biquad and filtergraph. It works fine, but the positions of Fq, Gain and Q in Filtergraph are not stored with the song. is there a workaraound? kind regards ATH Here's the patch: #P window setfont Tahoma 10.; #P flonum 49 381 35 10 0 0 0 6583 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 184 156 35 10 0 0 0 6583 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P window linecount 1; #N pp 5 Level 0 157; #P newobj 330 47 82 431423498 pp 5 Level 0 157; #P number 323 110 35 10 0 0 0 6583 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N pp 4 F_Typ 0 10; #P newobj 323 131 83 431423498 pp 4 F_Typ 0 10; #N pp 3 Q 0. 6.; #P newobj 49 356 63 431423498 pp 3 Q 0. 6.; #P flonum 24 333 35 10 0 0 0 6583 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N pp 2 Gain 0. 24.; #P newobj 24 307 80 431423498 pp 2 Gain 0. 24.; #P user meter~ 28 169 108 182 50 0 168 0 103 103 103 255 153 0 255 0 0 217 217 0 153 186 0 12 3 3 3 3; #P user meter~ 28 153 108 166 50 0 168 0 103 103 103 255 153 0 255 0 0 217 217 0 153 186 0 12 3 3 3 3; #P hidden user gain~ 194 78 18 45 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P user gain~ 176 78 18 45 158 15 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 0 1 1 1; #C numprograms 64; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C setsize 230 200; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 0; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C uniqueid 128 202 152; #C initialpgm 1; #P newobj 340 220 58 431423498 plugconfig; #P message 30 33 83 431423498 Max_EQ_@ STA; #B color 15; #P newex 175 388 52 431423498 plugout~; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P user umenu 30 54 70 196647 1 64 70 0; #X add display; #X add lowpass; #X add highpass; #X add bandpass; #X add bandstop; #X add peaknotch; #X add lowshelf; #X add highshelf; #X add resonant; #X add allpass; #P window setfont Helvetica 9.; #P user filtergraph~ 29 77 134 68 21 9 20. 20000. 0.0625 16. 0 1 1 0 0 1 1; #X frgb 167 181 1; #X brgb 75 213 255; #X rgb2 0 0 0; #X rgb3 170 248 164; #X rgb4 0 0 0; #X rgb5 6 22 60; #X rgb6 36 30 135; #X rgb7 167 255 107; #X linmarkers 5512.5 11025. 16537.5; #X logmarkers 10. 100. 1000. 10000.; #X nfilters 1; #X setfilter 0 5 1 0 0 1736.957153 2.083844 0.754191 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.; #X done; #P window setfont Tahoma 10.; #P newex 297 338 79 431423498 biquad~; #P newex 184 338 79 431423498 biquad~; #P newex 240 269 45 431423498 plugin~; #P comment 171 60 53 431423498 out_Level; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 9 154 8 431423498 l r; #P number 24 257 35 10 0 0 0 6583 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P window linecount 1; #N pp 1 fq 20 20000; #P newobj 24 233 83 431423498 pp 1 fq 20 20000; #P hidden fasten 22 0 21 0 189 178 310 178 310 40 335 40; #P lcolor 6; #P connect 20 0 19 0; #P hidden fasten 8 0 20 0 35 74 328 74; #P lcolor 2; #P hidden connect 7 0 5 1; #P hidden connect 7 0 6 1; #P connect 4 1 6 0; #P hidden connect 13 0 15 0; #P hidden fasten 13 0 9 1 199 302 265 302 265 370 222 370; #P hidden fasten 6 0 13 0 302 364 387 364 387 264 301 264 301 66 199 66; #P hidden connect 12 1 22 0; #P hidden connect 12 1 13 0; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P hidden fasten 5 0 12 0 189 365 159 365 159 189 234 189 234 66 181 66; #P hidden fasten 21 0 12 0 335 78 268 78 268 53 181 53; #P lcolor 6; #P hidden connect 12 0 14 0; #P hidden connect 12 0 9 0; #P fasten 23 0 7 7 54 437 523 437 523 32 153 32; #P lcolor 3; #P fasten 17 0 7 6 29 452 536 452 536 28 136 28; #P lcolor 6; #P fasten 1 0 7 5 29 280 219 280 219 41 119 41; #P connect 18 0 23 0; #P fasten 7 3 18 0 94 149 125 149 125 348 70 348 70 351 54 351; #P lcolor 3; #P hidden fasten 19 0 8 0 328 159 477 159 477 23 17 23 17 52 35 52; #P lcolor 2; #P hidden connect 8 1 7 0; #P connect 16 0 17 0; #P fasten 7 2 16 0 74 148 25 148 25 214 13 214 13 291 29 291; #P lcolor 6; #P connect 0 0 1 0; #P fasten 7 1 0 0 54 149 3 149 3 230 29 230; #P window clipboard copycount 24; From splash-music at gmx.ch Mon Oct 29 09:33:30 2007 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Mon Oct 29 09:33:32 2007 Subject: [pluggo] noise in self made plug-ins? Message-ID: <1d2ac.4725fd49@www.cycling74.com> Hi i downloaded pluggo 3.6. full version to obtain the doc's and Tutorials about plug-in - Builiding. Will my self-made plug-ins also create the copy-right - noise, if I don't buy pluggo? Or Do I have to install the runtime version to get rid of the noise? Kind regards From splash-music at gmx.ch Mon Oct 29 09:36:00 2007 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Mon Oct 29 09:36:02 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Installing Pluggo 3.6 to be used with max 4.6.2 having Max 4.5 on Computer In-Reply-To: <1cacf.47077863@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d2ad.4725fde0@www.cycling74.com> Hi, I use both version parallel on my power book g4 and it works fine. Pluggo of course with MaxMSP 4.6.3. cheers ath From c.veit at inode.at Mon Oct 29 12:03:32 2007 From: c.veit at inode.at (Christian Veit) Date: Mon Oct 29 12:03:33 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: vst plugin with mxj class In-Reply-To: <1d293.4725ba21@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d2ca.47262074@www.cycling74.com> yes the problem was that live was crashing on startup.. after setting the max.jvm.option to -Xms64m in my pluggo max.java.config file it works well... many thanks for help.. c. From electrobass at gmx.net Mon Oct 29 12:31:48 2007 From: electrobass at gmx.net (micha) Date: Mon Oct 29 12:31:52 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: vst plugin with mxj class In-Reply-To: <1d2ca.47262074@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d2d3.47262714@www.cycling74.com> maybe this should go also into the faq? From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Tue Oct 30 02:28:55 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Tue Oct 30 02:28:57 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: noise in self made plug-ins? In-Reply-To: <1d2ac.4725fd49@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d2f3.4726eb46@www.cycling74.com> No, your self-built plugins will not have the noise -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From cycling at editions-ihs.com Tue Oct 30 08:57:41 2007 From: cycling at editions-ihs.com (Salvator) Date: Tue Oct 30 08:57:42 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: pluggo 3.6 compatibility with cubase 4 In-Reply-To: <14077.452986e3@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d30d.47274663@www.cycling74.com> Hi, Does the next pluggo that will come for Max 5 will work for Cubase 4 ? Thanks for any info that would bring us out of the dark... Salvator From splash-music at gmx.ch Wed Oct 31 04:06:50 2007 From: splash-music at gmx.ch (ATH) Date: Wed Oct 31 04:06:51 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: noise in self made plug-ins? In-Reply-To: <1d2f3.4726eb46@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d35e.472853b6@www.cycling74.com> Thanks for your clear answer. I have one more question. is there a way to edit the pluggo - Plugins, or at least see how they are programmed? Thanks anyway ATH From andrepilla at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 13:06:58 2007 From: andrepilla at gmail.com (andre) Date: Wed Oct 31 13:07:00 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Problem Building Message-ID: <1d38d.4728d251@www.cycling74.com> I`m working with Max/MSP 4.5.7 and pluggo runtime 3.5.4 i`ve been going through the pluggo dev material but i can seem to build the tutorial patchs... i do everything i`m supose to do, but once i click save it say "start building for Tutorial P1.pat.build..." and don't really go anywhere from there... ideas? Am i to inpacient, should i give more then 10 minutes to max to think? i tried building an empty patch (plugin~ - gainslider - plugout~) and it worked... not very useful, but worked... From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Wed Oct 31 15:36:24 2007 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Wed Oct 31 15:36:26 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: noise in self made plug-ins? In-Reply-To: <1d35e.472853b6@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d39f.4728f557@www.cycling74.com> Quote: ATH wrote on Wed, 31 October 2007 11:06 ---------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for your clear answer. > > I have one more question. > is there a way to edit the pluggo - Plugins, or at least see how they are programmed? > > Thanks anyway > ATH ---------------------------------------------------- Guess not, that 'back door' would be too obvious ;) Mattijs -- SmadSteck - http://www.smadsteck.nl Hard- and software for interactive audiovisual sampling From jesse.freedom at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 18:23:56 2007 From: jesse.freedom at gmail.com (Jesse) Date: Wed Oct 31 18:23:58 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Stopped working in Mac ProTools ; - ( In-Reply-To: <1aceb.468d69c3@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d3a8.47291c9c@www.cycling74.com> Hi, I had the same problem in PT LE 7.1.1, Macbook Pro, Mac OS 10.4.10. I fixed it by uninstalling & reinstalling Pluggo (uninstall w/ the C74 Plug-in Cleaner). Cheers! Jesse From d.linnenbank at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 19:02:19 2007 From: d.linnenbank at gmail.com (dave linnenbank) Date: Wed Oct 31 19:02:21 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Filtergraph Object In-Reply-To: <1d2aa.4725fc0a@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d3aa.4729259b@www.cycling74.com> i tried to look at your patch, but max didn't recognize the text as an authentic patch. you might want to try posting again or even attaching a zipped binary. --dave From andrew at cycling74.com Wed Oct 31 21:19:43 2007 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Wed Oct 31 21:19:44 2007 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Stopped working in Mac ProTools ; - ( In-Reply-To: <1d3a8.47291c9c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <1d3b3.472945ce@www.cycling74.com> There seem to be a bunch of different things going on here. Those of you having problems with pluggo and PT please send all relevant system and version info into support.Andrew Benson has just about every PT version/platform combo under the sun running at the office and I'm sure he'll be able to get you going. support at cycling 74 dot com Or give technical support a call at the office during work hours. Cheers Andrew