From kgoold at calarts.edu Tue Apr 1 00:16:38 2008 From: kgoold at calarts.edu (Kevin Goold) Date: Tue Apr 1 00:16:45 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: plugins not loading in Protools 7.4 In-Reply-To: <21236.47f00721@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <212f9.47f1d346@www.cycling74.com> Nevermind. Re-installed Pluggo and it works now. From roald.baudoux at brutele.be Thu Apr 3 08:10:35 2008 From: roald.baudoux at brutele.be (Roald Baudoux) Date: Thu Apr 3 08:11:45 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Sound arriving too early in Logic Pro 8.0 when Pluggo plug-in inserted Message-ID: I have experienced this with several plug-ins: the sound comes too early, something like half a second or so. It doesn't always happen, and it doesn't always happen at the same moment. I have tried to disable the ltency compensation, it doesn't solve the problem. I have tried to remove other plug-ins inserted upwards, it doesn't solve the problem neither. It's really annoying. Any idea? Roald Baudoux From elt at altern.org Fri Apr 4 14:47:11 2008 From: elt at altern.org (fp) Date: Fri Apr 4 14:47:18 2008 Subject: [pluggo] set pp in ableton Message-ID: <214ac.47f693cf@www.cycling74.com> hi, the "set" function for pp dosn't work in ableton live. whyyyyyy ? bouhouhouh.... if somebody could hep me, please... #P toggle 145 64 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P message 145 88 63 196617 indicator \$1; #P toggle 123 81 15 0; #P message 123 108 54 196617 disable \$1; #P flonum 86 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 49 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 49 89 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P message 49 109 39 196617 set \$1; #N pp 1 essai 0 127; #P newobj 49 129 85 196617 pp 1 essai 0 127; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 1 1 1 1; #C numprograms 64; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C windowsize; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 1; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C uniqueid 128 182 57; #C initialpgm 1; #P newobj 56 69 55 196617 plugconfig; #P connect 3 0 2 0; #P connect 6 0 1 0; #P connect 8 0 1 0; #P connect 2 0 1 0; #P connect 1 0 4 0; #P connect 1 1 5 0; #P connect 7 0 6 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P window clipboard copycount 10; -- ------------------------ - www.pan-etc.net - ------------------------ From bowelpaste at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 23:13:40 2008 From: bowelpaste at gmail.com (eric) Date: Fri Apr 4 23:13:43 2008 Subject: [pluggo] embarrassing newbie question Message-ID: <214b8.47f70a84@www.cycling74.com> i'm trying to build a basic vst to open/play a file with groove~, using other stuff for manipulation, and i just haven't been able to get it right... i went through the develop pluggo manual (not terribly thoroughly) and i am able to get working synths and effects, but would really like to figure this one out as it would be useful to me. i think the problem i'm experiencing is how to properly route the plugin object into the patch. i've only been on maxmsp for a few months, i know mainly just the basics in maxmsp patches and am even more virgin with vst experience my host app is renoise 1.91 if that is of any added value i'm also trying to figure out how to construct a reverb type vst, and am having troubles with how to route to plugout~ my apologies for wasting a forum thread with this question :) From roald.baudoux at brutele.be Fri Apr 4 23:58:11 2008 From: roald.baudoux at brutele.be (Roald Baudoux) Date: Fri Apr 4 23:59:21 2008 Subject: [pluggo] embarrassing newbie question In-Reply-To: <214b8.47f70a84@www.cycling74.com> References: <214b8.47f70a84@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <294380E3-A55E-44CC-961E-2119D76E7CB9@brutele.be> If you play your sound inside the plug-in then you don't need to connect the plugin~ object to any other one. However the plugin~ object itself is mandatory. So just put it in your patch and leave it disconnected. Another way to go is making your plug-in to be considered as a synth by adding "#synth; " in the plugconfig object. Then you don't need the plugin~ object at all. Roald Baudoux Le 05-avr.-08 ? 07:13, eric a ?crit : > > i'm trying to build a basic vst to open/play a file with groove~, > using other stuff for manipulation, and i just haven't been able to > get it right... i went through the develop pluggo manual (not > terribly thoroughly) and i am able to get working synths and > effects, but would really like to figure this one out as it would > be useful to me. i think the problem i'm experiencing is how to > properly route the plugin object into the patch. i've only been on > maxmsp for a few months, i know mainly just the basics in maxmsp > patches and am even more virgin with vst experience > > my host app is renoise 1.91 if that is of any added value > > i'm also trying to figure out how to construct a reverb type vst, > and am having troubles with how to route to plugout~ > > my apologies for wasting a forum thread with this question :) > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Sat Apr 5 03:36:55 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Sat Apr 5 03:37:01 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: embarrassing newbie question - developing pluggo In-Reply-To: <214b8.47f70a84@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <214be.47f74835@www.cycling74.com> > i think the problem i'm experiencing is how to properly route the plugin object into the patch. How to properly route the plugin object into the patch? What do you mean by that? > i'm also trying to figure out how to construct a reverb type vst, and am having troubles with how to route to plugout~ How to route what to plugout~? It sounds as if you don't know how to connect a patch cord from some object to the plugout~ object, but I assume that is not what you mean. Hint: it always helps to post a patch that shows what you have been trying to do and where things go wrong. Mattijs Quote: eric h wrote on Sat, 05 April 2008 07:13 ---------------------------------------------------- > i went through the develop pluggo manual (not terribly thoroughly) and i am able to get working synths and i've had moderate success with some effects, but would really like to figure this one out as it would be useful to me. > i've only been on maxmsp for a few months, i know mainly just the basics in maxmsp patches and am even more virgin with vst experience > > my host app is renoise 1.91 if that is of any added value > > my apologies for wasting a forum thread with this question :) ---------------------------------------------------- From isorritmia at yahoo.com.mx Thu Apr 10 00:54:56 2008 From: isorritmia at yahoo.com.mx (Pablo Silva) Date: Thu Apr 10 00:55:02 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Problem developing plugins for Logic 8 Message-ID: <2162b.47fdb9c0@www.cycling74.com> Hi: I'm new to this forum, so I'll start by saying hello to everyone. Hope someone can give me a clue as to what could be wrong here... I've been trying to rebuild some old plugins from Pluggo 3.1 on the most recent version of both Max and Pluggo, to use them in Logic 8.0.1. as AudioUnits. I've been running into some trouble getting the plugins to load, once recompiled. The plugins fail the AU startup test, and Logic gives out the following error message: ------(several tests passed before this point)----- VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES: VERIFYING CUSTOM UI Carbon View Components Available: 1 auvw plug PiMa - Pluggo: Pluggo editor PASS Cocoa Views Available: 0 HAS FACTORY PRESETS VERIFYING CLASS INFO PASS TESTING HOST CALLBACKS PASS * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO: # # # 5 Global Scope Parameters: ERROR: Unequal number of strings for parameter value range * * FAIL -------------------------------------------------- AU VALIDATION FAILED: CORRECT THE ERRORS ABOVE. -------------------------------------------------- validation result: failed validation updating properties of AU bandpasser by Pluggo...done. -----------(end of test results)-------------- As these are rather simple patches, I wonder what the cause might be. I get no error messages whatever while recompiling from Max 4.6. Any ideas on how to solve this? Or is this just some bizarre incompatibility between Logic and MaxMSP/Pluggo? Thanks for your help -------------------------------------- Here's the patch: max v2; #N vpatcher 350 86 1063 670; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 530 233 52 196617 r ---fstQ; #P newex 498 178 68 196617 r ---fcutunit; #P newex 330 140 66 196617 r ---fcuthun; #P newex 583 80 65 196617 r ---fcutmil; #P newex 265 296 56 196617 r ---pgain; #P newex 115 225 55 196617 r ---fgain; #P window linecount 7; #P message 43 445 368 196617 \; ---fgain 1 \; ---pgain 0 \; ---fcutmil 0 \; ---fcuthun 2 \; ---fcutunit 50 \; ---fstQ 1.; #P window linecount 1; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 1 0 0 1; #C numprograms 64; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C autosize; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 0; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C uniqueid 128 166 124; #C initialpgm 1; #P newobj 39 40 54 196617 plugconfig; #P button 188 215 15 0; #P newex 188 235 27 196617 +; #P button 220 234 15 0; #P newex 220 254 27 196617 +; #P number 367 205 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 311 162 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 255 112 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 311 182 35 196617 * 100; #N pp 4 c3 CutoffFine 0 99 Hz; #P newobj 367 178 128 196617 pp 4 c3 CutoffFine 0 99 Hz; #P newex 255 135 42 196617 * 1000; #N pp 3 c3 Cutoff_100's 0 9 choices 0 100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 900 Hz; #P newobj 311 121 370 196617 pp 3 c3 Cutoff_100's 0 9 choices 0 100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 900 Hz; #P newex 43 422 45 196617 loadbang; #P flonum 439 262 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N pp 5 c4 Q 1. 100.; #P newobj 439 233 85 196617 pp 5 c4 Q 1. 100.; #P newex 96 294 53 196617 reson~; #P window linecount 2; #N pp 2 c2 Cutoff_1000's 0 15 choices 0 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000 10000 11000 12000 13000 14000 15000 Hz; #P newobj 255 69 325 196617 pp 2 c2 Cutoff_1000's 0 15 choices 0 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 8000 9000 10000 11000 12000 13000 14000 15000 Hz; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 39 293 53 196617 reson~; #P newex 96 360 27 196617 *~; #P newex 39 360 27 196617 *~; #P flonum 188 322 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N pp 1 Gain 0. 4.; #P newobj 188 296 73 196617 pp 1 Gain 0. 4.; #P newex 39 386 45 196617 plugout~; #P newex 39 93 40 196617 plugin~; #P connect 0 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 1 0; #P connect 11 0 24 0; #P fasten 25 0 6 1 120 258 58 258; #P fasten 3 0 4 1 193 352 61 352; #P fasten 19 0 6 2 225 275 72 275; #P connect 5 0 1 1; #P fasten 10 0 6 3 444 286 86 286; #P connect 0 1 8 0; #P connect 8 0 5 0; #P fasten 25 0 8 1 120 265 115 265; #P fasten 3 0 5 1 193 356 118 356; #P fasten 19 0 8 2 225 275 129 275; #P fasten 10 0 8 3 444 286 143 286; #P connect 15 0 22 0; #P connect 13 0 21 0; #P connect 22 0 21 0; #P fasten 3 0 2 0 193 345 178 345 178 289 193 289; #P connect 2 0 3 0; #P fasten 26 0 3 0 270 317 193 317; #P connect 15 0 21 1; #P connect 18 0 20 0; #P connect 21 0 19 0; #P connect 20 0 19 0; #P connect 18 0 19 1; #P fasten 16 0 7 0 260 131 244 131 244 64 260 64; #P connect 7 0 16 0; #P fasten 27 0 16 0 588 105 260 105; #P connect 16 0 13 0; #P fasten 17 0 12 0 316 179 304 179 304 117 316 117; #P connect 12 0 17 0; #P fasten 28 0 17 0 335 159 316 159; #P connect 17 0 15 0; #P fasten 18 0 14 0 372 227 362 227 362 173 372 173; #P connect 14 0 18 0; #P fasten 29 0 18 0 503 199 372 199; #P fasten 10 0 9 0 444 281 429 281 429 226 444 226; #P connect 9 0 10 0; #P fasten 30 0 10 0 535 255 444 255; #P pop; And the plugconfig file is: #C useviews 1 0 0 1; #C numprograms 64; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C autosize; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 0; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C uniqueid 128 166 124; #C initialpgm 1; ---------------------------------------------- From dan at defectiverecords.com Thu Apr 10 07:36:47 2008 From: dan at defectiverecords.com (Dan Nigrin) Date: Thu Apr 10 07:37:09 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Problem developing plugins for Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <2162b.47fdb9c0@www.cycling74.com> References: <2162b.47fdb9c0@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: This is just a guess, based on a quick look at your patch: I wonder if Logic / AU validation does not like the pp parameters that have a ' character in their names (e.g. "Cutoff_1000's")? I'd try without those and see if you get the same error... Dan At 1:54 AM -0500 4/10/08, Pablo Silva wrote: >Hi: > >I'm new to this forum, so I'll start by saying hello to everyone. > >Hope someone can give me a clue as to what could be wrong here... > >I've been trying to rebuild some old plugins from Pluggo 3.1 on the >most recent version of both Max and Pluggo, to use them in Logic >8.0.1. as AudioUnits. > >I've been running into some trouble getting the plugins to load, >once recompiled. The plugins fail the AU startup test, and Logic >gives out the following error message: -- Dan Nigrin Defective Records 202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major Malfunction http://www.defectiverecords.com http://www.jackosx.com From pholleman at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 06:39:21 2008 From: pholleman at gmail.com (poul) Date: Fri Apr 11 06:39:26 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Some objects don't get recognised in pluggo Message-ID: <216ba.47ff5bf8@www.cycling74.com> Hi everyone, I just started using and making pluggo's on a Mac. Before i used to work on a windows computer. Anyways, i'm having this strange problem. Because i didn't get any plugin to work i did some trial and error and i noticed that some objects just aren't recognised in my pluggo's (!?). Objects like the gainslider and the cycle~ object get bogus-objects in the pluggo (VST) interface. The hosts i use are Ableton Live 5 and Logic 8 (the last one doesn't seem to have "interface view mode" so i don't know if it's the same in Logic(?)) Can somebode help me out with this? Thanks in advance... poul My setup: MacBook Max/MSP 4.6.2 Logic Pro 8 Ableton Live 5.0.3 From andrew at cycling74.com Fri Apr 11 09:10:22 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Fri Apr 11 09:10:27 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Some objects don't get recognised in pluggo In-Reply-To: <216ba.47ff5bf8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <216d8.47ff7f5e@www.cycling74.com> Something's wrong with your install.Thise objuects should work fine Try using the cleaner and reinstalling pluggo. -A From bowelpaste at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 03:28:22 2008 From: bowelpaste at gmail.com (eric) Date: Sat Apr 12 03:28:26 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: embarrassing newbie question - developing pluggo In-Reply-To: <214b8.47f70a84@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <2172b.480080b0@www.cycling74.com> thanks for the reply... well this is embarrassing as heck but here it is, i've tried a bunch of stuff and have failed each time, so i'll just include a text from a simple groove patch and wait to be humbled :)... i've learned a lot in the max forum, but this is my first thread, thank you all again for your knowledge max v2; #N vpatcher 97 59 1275 790; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #N pp 7 stop; #P newobj 802 219 51 196617 pp 7 stop; #N pp 6 start; #P newobj 803 256 55 196617 pp 6 start; #N pp 5 loop; #P newobj 803 301 50 196617 pp 5 loop; #N pp 1 read; #P newobj 186 452 52 196617 pp 1 read; #N pp 4 max 0. 100000.; #P newobj 801 337 105 196617 pp 4 max 0. 100000.; #N pp 3 min 0. 10000.; #P newobj 802 375 96 196617 pp 3 min 0. 10000.; #N pp 2 playspeed -100. 100.; #P newobj 803 408 129 196617 pp 2 playspeed -100. 100.; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 1 1 1 1; #C numprograms 64; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C setsize 1000 1000; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 0; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C uniqueid 128 42 18; #C initialpgm 1; #P newobj 625 462 55 196617 plugconfig; #P message 720 232 27 196617 stop; #P message 649 232 65 196617 startwindow; #P comment 654 218 65 196617 • start audio; #P user panel 640 213 123 43; #X brgb 255 255 255; #X frgb 100 202 30; #X border 2; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P newex 275 351 82 196617 plugout~; #P newex 275 385 82 196617 dac~; #P newex 275 317 42 196617 plugin~; #P toggle 163 97 15 0; #P message 163 116 68 196617 loopinterp \$1; #P toggle 534 213 15 0; #P message 534 238 41 196617 loop \$1; #P comment 557 214 75 196617 •?loop on/off; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 162 66 100 196617 turn interpolation at loop points on/off; #P window linecount 1; #P message 502 104 49 196617 startloop; #P message 503 65 27 196617 stop; #P button 563 75 15 0; #P flonum 563 102 47 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P window linecount 3; #P comment 584 61 54 196617 •?start \, set sample position; #P window linecount 1; #P message 293 92 24 196617 0.5; #P message 287 70 19 196617 -1; #P toggle 275 39 15 0; #P newex 275 112 27 196617 sig~; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 293 40 103 196617 •?play normal speed forward/stop; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 308 71 63 196617 •?backward; #P comment 319 93 38 196617 • slow; #P flonum 234 234 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 371 235 35 9 0. 0 1 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 323 235 35 9 0. 0 1 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 192 502 94 196617 buffer~ simpletest; #P message 186 479 30 196617 read; #P newex 275 277 106 196617 groove~ simpletest 2; #P connect 23 0 22 0; #P fasten 2 0 35 0 197 529 167 529 167 448 191 448; #P connect 35 0 1 0; #P connect 1 0 2 0; #P fasten 32 0 5 0 808 565 80 565 80 223 239 223; #P connect 12 0 9 0; #P connect 11 0 9 0; #P connect 10 0 9 0; #P connect 5 0 0 0; #P connect 20 0 0 0; #P connect 22 0 0 0; #P connect 9 0 0 0; #P connect 14 0 0 0; #P connect 16 0 0 0; #P connect 17 0 0 0; #P connect 0 0 24 0; #P connect 24 0 26 0; #P connect 29 0 25 0; #P connect 30 0 25 0; #P connect 26 0 25 0; #P connect 0 1 24 1; #P fasten 33 0 3 0 807 397 942 397 942 586 69 586 69 218 328 218; #P connect 3 0 0 1; #P connect 24 1 26 1; #P connect 26 1 25 1; #P fasten 34 0 4 0 806 362 959 362 959 601 52 601 52 206 376 206; #P connect 4 0 0 2; #P fasten 36 0 21 0 808 322 988 322 988 618 28 618 28 186 539 186; #P connect 21 0 20 0; #P connect 15 0 14 0; #P fasten 37 0 29 0 808 278 1008 278 1008 640 13 640 13 157 654 157; #P fasten 38 0 30 0 807 241 1033 241 1033 660 2 660 2 138 725 138; #P fasten 4 0 34 0 376 262 43 262 43 594 977 594 977 331 806 331; #P fasten 30 0 38 0 725 258 714 258 714 147 8 147 8 650 1043 650 1043 212 807 212; #P fasten 3 0 33 0 328 264 60 264 60 576 952 576 952 369 807 369; #P fasten 29 0 37 0 654 258 640 258 640 167 21 167 21 630 1021 630 1021 249 808 249; #P fasten 21 0 36 0 539 232 521 232 521 194 35 194 35 609 998 609 998 296 808 296; #P fasten 5 0 32 0 239 274 88 274 88 557 937 557 937 405 808 405; #P pop; From mattijs at smadsteck.nl Sat Apr 12 04:22:17 2008 From: mattijs at smadsteck.nl (Mattijs Kneppers) Date: Sat Apr 12 04:22:24 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: embarrassing newbie question - developing pluggo In-Reply-To: <2172b.480080b0@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <2172c.48008d4c@www.cycling74.com> Ok, thanks for posting a patch. At first sight there are a couple of problems. - don't use a pp to send the read message to the buffer. You'll need to use the max inferface for that (after loading your plugin, choose 'Interface' in the View dropdown). Check the pluggo reference for sizing it and how to make it show up by default. - for me, at first the plugin didn't show up as a vst in Live but after replacing the plugconfig object for a new one it did. - the playspeed output should be connected to the sig~ object, not directly to the groove~. In general, first try your patch without building it into a plugin. In this case it wouldn't have worked either. - you don't need the dac~ (only for testing), you can leave the whole startwindow thing out. Pluggo automatically turns audio on. I didn't try to implement these points and see if it all works, but maybe you can implement them yourself, see if it works, and if not post your new patch. Cheers, Mattijs From chris.willes at utoronto.ca Sun Apr 13 14:40:39 2008 From: chris.willes at utoronto.ca (chris willes) Date: Sun Apr 13 14:40:43 2008 Subject: [pluggo] output of my first VST plugin Message-ID: <21787.48026fc6@www.cycling74.com> Hey so im new at this and this is probably very basic but I cant seem to register any output on this simple little patch when I build it as a VST and then loaded it in ableton live 6. Its just a test really to see if I can get the audio signal flowing through this simple patch when im using it as a plug in with ableton as the host. any ideas? here it is... #P user gain~ 85 85 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P window setfont Helvetica 9.; #P user filtergraph~ 288 48 256 128 21 9 20. 20000. 0.0625 16. 0 1 1 0 0 1 1; #X frgb 170 170 170; #X brgb 209 209 209; #X rgb2 0 0 0; #X rgb3 130 130 130; #X rgb4 0 0 0; #X rgb5 76 108 172; #X rgb6 210 74 54; #X rgb7 255 22 22; #X linmarkers 5512.5 11025. 16537.5; #X logmarkers 10. 100. 1000. 10000.; #X nfilters 2; #X setfilter 1 5 1 0 0 479.458832 6.451872 1.332697 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.; #X setfilter 0 5 1 1 0 168.485382 2.284442 0.724884 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.; #X done; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P hidden newex 255 559 51 196617 cascade~; #P hidden newex 255 339 42 196617 plugin~; #P hidden newex 140 546 48 196617 plugout~; #P hidden newex 140 582 31 196617 dac~; #P comment 194 85 99 196617 amplitude threshold; #P flonum 149 84 42 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P user gain~ 21 85 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P toggle 25 40 15 0; #P newex 255 301 31 196617 adc~; #P user gain~ 53 85 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P comment 194 111 74 196617 playback rate; #P hidden newex 374 429 43 196617 + 1000; #P hidden newex 374 403 76 196617 random 20000; #P hidden button 470 449 15 0; #P hidden newex 397 503 44 196617 phasor~; #P hidden newex 397 471 135 196617 expr ((44100.0 / $i1)*$f2); #P flonum 115 109 76 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 116 135 75 9 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden newex 374 380 32 196617 sel 1; #P hidden newex 374 354 33 196617 > 0.3; #P hidden newex 374 330 75 196617 peakamp~ 500; #P hidden newex 255 531 152 196617 stutter~ 44100 22050 -1 10 1; #B color 5; #P hidden fasten 20 0 15 0 260 408 3 408 3 76 26 76; #P hidden fasten 0 0 12 0 260 547 226 547 226 454 110 454 110 62 58 62; #P hidden fasten 21 0 23 0 260 600 196 600 196 51 90 51; #P hidden fasten 10 0 4 0 379 455 116 455 116 128 121 128; #P hidden fasten 23 0 19 0 90 522 145 522; #P hidden fasten 15 0 19 0 26 518 145 518; #P hidden fasten 12 0 19 0 58 519 145 519; #P hidden connect 19 0 18 0; #P hidden fasten 19 1 18 1 183 575 166 575; #P hidden fasten 23 0 19 1 90 521 183 521; #P hidden fasten 15 0 19 1 26 523 183 523; #P hidden fasten 12 0 19 1 57 206 57 516 183 516; #P hidden fasten 14 0 13 0 30 65 4 65 4 335 221 335 221 265 260 265; #P hidden connect 13 1 20 0; #P hidden connect 13 0 20 0; #P hidden connect 20 0 0 0; #P hidden fasten 4 0 0 0 121 425 260 425; #P hidden connect 0 0 21 0; #P hidden fasten 22 0 21 1 293 193 593 193 593 546; #P hidden fasten 20 0 1 0 260 368 352 368 352 284 379 284; #P hidden connect 1 0 2 0; #P hidden connect 2 0 3 0; #P hidden connect 3 0 9 0; #P hidden connect 9 0 10 0; #P hidden fasten 16 0 2 1 154 119 216 119 216 223 460 223 460 355 402 355; #P hidden fasten 8 0 6 0 475 467 402 467; #P hidden fasten 4 0 6 0 121 465 402 465; #P hidden connect 6 0 7 0; #P hidden connect 7 0 0 2; #P hidden fasten 5 0 8 0 120 138 263 138 263 235 475 235; #P hidden fasten 5 0 6 1 120 139 263 139 263 236 527 236; #P window clipboard copycount 24; From chris.willes at utoronto.ca Sun Apr 13 15:05:37 2008 From: chris.willes at utoronto.ca (chris willes) Date: Sun Apr 13 15:05:40 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: output of my first VST plugin In-Reply-To: <21787.48026fc6@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <21788.480275a1@www.cycling74.com> That may be a bad version... #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P hidden newex 140 582 31 196617 dac~; #P user gain~ 85 85 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P window setfont Helvetica 9.; #P user filtergraph~ 288 48 256 128 21 9 20. 20000. 0.0625 16. 0 1 1 0 0 1 1; #X frgb 170 170 170; #X brgb 209 209 209; #X rgb2 0 0 0; #X rgb3 130 130 130; #X rgb4 0 0 0; #X rgb5 76 108 172; #X rgb6 210 74 54; #X rgb7 255 22 22; #X linmarkers 5512.5 11025. 16537.5; #X logmarkers 10. 100. 1000. 10000.; 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#P hidden fasten 19 0 24 0 58 537 145 537; #P hidden connect 24 0 29 0; #P hidden connect 24 1 29 1; #P hidden fasten 28 0 24 1 90 500 183 500; #P hidden fasten 0 0 24 1 26 530 183 530; #P hidden fasten 19 0 24 1 57 206 57 509 183 509; #P hidden fasten 21 0 20 0 30 71 139 71; #P hidden fasten 20 1 25 0 160 250 260 250; #P hidden fasten 20 0 25 0 139 291 260 291; #P hidden connect 25 0 7 0; #P hidden fasten 11 0 7 0 121 425 260 425; #P hidden connect 7 0 26 0; #P hidden fasten 27 0 26 1 293 193 593 193 593 546; #P hidden fasten 25 0 8 0 260 368 352 368 352 284 379 284; #P hidden connect 8 0 9 0; #P hidden connect 9 0 10 0; #P hidden connect 10 0 16 0; #P hidden connect 16 0 17 0; #P hidden fasten 22 0 9 1 154 119 216 119 216 223 460 223 460 355 402 355; #P hidden fasten 15 0 13 0 475 467 402 467; #P hidden fasten 11 0 13 0 121 465 402 465; #P hidden connect 13 0 14 0; #P hidden connect 14 0 7 2; #P hidden fasten 12 0 15 0 120 138 263 138 263 235 475 235; #P hidden fasten 12 0 13 1 120 139 263 139 263 236 527 236; #P window clipboard copycount 30; From elt at altern.org Mon Apr 14 05:56:02 2008 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Mon Apr 14 05:56:04 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: output of my first VST plugin In-Reply-To: <21788.480275a1@www.cycling74.com> References: <21788.480275a1@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: you just forgot to put plugconfig object. -- elt@altern.org http://pan-etc.net -- L > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/pluggo/attachments/20080414/c5a3f666/attachment.htm From johnpoupinel at hotmail.com Mon Apr 14 05:59:55 2008 From: johnpoupinel at hotmail.com (Bertrand Fraysse) Date: Mon Apr 14 05:59:59 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: output of my first VST plugin In-Reply-To: <21787.48026fc6@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <217cc.4803473a@www.cycling74.com> You forgot to add the [plugconfig] object. If I understand it well, It tells your host how to handle your plugin. Look at the documentation and the help about it. From vjair.email at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 01:10:47 2008 From: vjair.email at gmail.com (VJ Air) Date: Wed Apr 16 01:15:03 2008 Subject: [pluggo] newbie needing help with simple ( hopefully ) plugin Message-ID: <21875.4805a676@www.cycling74.com> hello :) first of all, max/msp.... wow, looks like the possibilities are endless, i can see its going to take a long time for me to get to grips with it! ok, so on to my question.... im trying to make what hope is a simple plugin but im stumped ( its my first project in max ) basicly what i want to do is have a vst plugin with a parameter which is automatable by the host application (ableton )and sends out pitchbend data over midi. i understand i need to use a pp to make the parameter show, i also understand that 14 bit midi pitchbend has 16,384 steps. but after that, im stumped! so, i need a pp control with a value of 0 - 16,383 which sends the data out to a midi port and channel ( both of which can be predetermined - im not worried about being able to change it ) as pitchbend data. im sure for you seasoned pro's it will be a quick job to do, but having spent hours trying to do it im left scratching my head. ( and yes, ive looked at the tutorials) can someone give me some pointers or even show me how i should assemble my plugin. thanks. Arran. From andrew at cycling74.com Thu Apr 17 08:54:52 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Thu Apr 17 08:54:55 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <214ac.47f693cf@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <218eb.480764bb@www.cycling74.com> It works for me. What about it do you think is faulty? -A From elt at altern.org Thu Apr 17 12:06:41 2008 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Thu Apr 17 12:06:47 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <218eb.480764bb@www.cycling74.com> References: <218eb.480764bb@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <8FC6B0AC-A070-4B28-B80D-FAA53B556DED@altern.org> hi, with this ???? #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P flonum 86 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 49 157 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 49 89 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P window linecount 1; #P message 49 109 39 196617 set \$1; #N pp 1 essai 0 127; #P newobj 49 129 85 196617 pp 1 essai 0 127; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 1 1 1 1; #C numprograms 64; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C windowsize; #C defaultview Interface 0 0 1; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C uniqueid 128 182 57; #C initialpgm 1; #P newobj 56 69 55 196617 plugconfig; #P connect 1 1 5 0; #P connect 1 0 4 0; #P connect 2 0 1 0; #P connect 3 0 2 0; #P window clipboard copycount 6; the data go thru pp object even prepend by set... is it not the same for you ? if not why ? very strange. live7.03, max4.6.3, os10.4.11 -- elt@altern.org http://pan-etc.net -- Le 17 avr. 08 ? 16:54, Andrew Pask a ?crit : > > > > It works for me. > > What about it do you think is faulty? > > -A > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/pluggo/attachments/20080417/2c2026db/attachment.htm From andrew at cycling74.com Thu Apr 17 13:23:11 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Thu Apr 17 13:23:13 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <8FC6B0AC-A070-4B28-B80D-FAA53B556DED@altern.org> Message-ID: <2190d.4807a39e@www.cycling74.com> What I see is the data getting to Live but not out the outlet of the pp object, which is what I expected it to do. Seems to me that if you don't want to set the plug's state in the host you can bypass pp. How else would the set message to pp make sense? Or maybe I don't get it at all.... -A From andrew at cycling74.com Thu Apr 17 14:06:10 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Thu Apr 17 14:06:13 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: newbie needing help with simple ( hopefully ) plugin In-Reply-To: <21875.4805a676@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <21912.4807adb2@www.cycling74.com> Peter Elsea's MIDI tutorials might help. ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/pub/ems/MaxTutors/ Also - try making your patch just as a patch , using MIDI routing first. That way you won't get confused by the weird way it works in Live. When you get to making a plug, plugmidiout is your friend. -A From isorritmia at yahoo.com.mx Thu Apr 17 23:30:57 2008 From: isorritmia at yahoo.com.mx (Pablo Silva) Date: Thu Apr 17 23:31:01 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Problem developing plugins for Logic 8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21926.4808320f@www.cycling74.com> Thanks for your suggestion. I tried eliminating both the underscores and the single quotes from my pp parameter names, but the same error I mentioned above persists when testing the plugins under Logic. I'm able to use the plugins without any trouble in other applications like DSP-Quattro. So I suppose this is a problem specific to Logic. Any more ideas? From elt at altern.org Fri Apr 18 04:09:38 2008 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Fri Apr 18 04:09:44 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <2190d.4807a39e@www.cycling74.com> References: <2190d.4807a39e@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <95C6BF96-0D46-4EA9-93AB-37366C1A3ADF@altern.org> > > What I see is the data getting to Live but not out the outlet of > the pp object, which is what I expected it to do. in my case, the data get to Live AND out the outlets (1 and 2) of the pp object. do you have same version ? > LIVE7.0.3, OS10.4.11, maxmsp4.6.3 From elt at altern.org Fri Apr 18 05:37:45 2008 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Fri Apr 18 05:37:54 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <95C6BF96-0D46-4EA9-93AB-37366C1A3ADF@altern.org> References: <2190d.4807a39e@www.cycling74.com> <95C6BF96-0D46-4EA9-93AB-37366C1A3ADF@altern.org> Message-ID: <1A745DC1-DB5D-4FD6-8B27-4A34757DB71D@altern.org> and here's the picture: -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/appledouble-------------- next part -------------- > From dan at defectiverecords.com Fri Apr 18 06:05:27 2008 From: dan at defectiverecords.com (Dan Nigrin) Date: Fri Apr 18 06:08:12 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Problem developing plugins for Logic 8 In-Reply-To: <21926.4808320f@www.cycling74.com> References: <21926.4808320f@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: I'm grasping at straws, but you might try changing the uniqueid in your plugconfig to another number - it's possible if you copied the plugconfig from another one of your projects, that you've got conflicting plugconfig uniqueid's?? I'm not sure if that should cause the problem you're seeing, but it's easy enough to change the number and try... Dan At 12:30 AM -0500 4/18/08, Pablo Silva wrote: >Thanks for your suggestion. I tried eliminating both the underscores >and the single quotes from my pp parameter names, but the same error >I mentioned above persists when testing the plugins under Logic. I'm >able to use the plugins without any trouble in other applications >like DSP-Quattro. So I suppose this is a problem specific to Logic. > >Any more ideas? > > >_______________________________________________ >pluggo mailing list >pluggo@cycling74.com >http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo -- Dan Nigrin Defective Records 202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major Malfunction http://www.defectiverecords.com http://www.jackosx.com From andrew at cycling74.com Fri Apr 18 09:51:03 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Fri Apr 18 09:51:08 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <1A745DC1-DB5D-4FD6-8B27-4A34757DB71D@altern.org> Message-ID: <21963.4808c367@www.cycling74.com> that's truly weird. Which version of pluggo are you using? Is it 3.6.1? We had problems with the pp object and Live before this version. -A From elt at altern.org Fri Apr 18 14:23:35 2008 From: elt at altern.org (fp) Date: Fri Apr 18 14:23:40 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <21963.4808c367@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <21980.48090347@www.cycling74.com> yep, it is 3.6.1 i really don't understand it... -- ------------------------ - www.pan-etc.net - ------------------------ From elt at altern.org Fri Apr 18 14:44:00 2008 From: elt at altern.org (fp) Date: Fri Apr 18 14:44:03 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <21980.48090347@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <21983.48090810@www.cycling74.com> and it's same on my G5 2,7G, os10.4.11, max463, pluggo361. but... it's working on maxmsp457, pluggo354, os1039 !!!! -- ------------------------ - www.pan-etc.net - ------------------------ From elt at altern.org Fri Apr 18 14:50:20 2008 From: elt at altern.org (fp) Date: Fri Apr 18 14:50:24 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Re: set pp in ableton In-Reply-To: <21983.48090810@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <21985.4809098c@www.cycling74.com> Quote: fp wrote on Fri, 18 April 2008 22:44 ---------------------------------------------------- > > it's working on maxmsp457, pluggo354, os1039 !!!! > ---------------------------------------------------- no in fact it doesn't work at all... x'cuse... -- ------------------------ - www.pan-etc.net - ------------------------ From jacopo at lan-muzic.com Mon Apr 21 03:23:10 2008 From: jacopo at lan-muzic.com (Jabbo) Date: Mon Apr 21 03:23:15 2008 Subject: [pluggo] plugmultiparam Live 7.0.3 Screen update Message-ID: <21a40.480c5cfd@www.cycling74.com> Hello Everyone, I have a problem with the plugmultiparam object when compiling a pluggo as a vst. Am I missing something, like some kind of update message to give to plugmultiparam???!!!??? Could try it only with Live. Anyway the controls from Live work fine, they move the multislider, but if I edit a multislider in the Pluggo edit window it won?t update the contents in Live.+ there is a value mismatch between the Live parameters and the Multislider individual value. At first I thought it was a normal round up, but it seems to be to much to be a rounding of the value. To test I compiled the example patch from the plugmultiparam.help as vst, loaded it in Live. It had the same problem. I wanted to use plugmultiparam to store file path information, but like this is quite useless cause the eventual data in the plugmultiparam is not sent(???) to Live for storing(I am aware of the viewing problem of hidden params with vst in Live, but who cares, this is not the problem now). I am quite lost... I am on a Macbook 2GHz 2GB RAM OSX 10.4.11 Live 7.0.3 Max/MSP 4.6.3 Pluggo latest -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Test_Rezzmult.vst.zip Type: application/zip Size: 20609 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/pluggo/attachments/20080421/799479f0/Test_Rezzmult.vst.zip From lister at sonicescape.net Mon Apr 21 04:05:28 2008 From: lister at sonicescape.net (Jakob Riis) Date: Mon Apr 21 04:05:39 2008 Subject: [pluggo] plugmultiparam Live 7.0.3 Screen update In-Reply-To: <21a40.480c5cfd@www.cycling74.com> References: <21a40.480c5cfd@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <20080421100528.797777660@mail2.bahnhof.se> Not sure this works, but to overcome different problems with plugmultiparam, I made an abstraction called jr.pmp that uses a bunch of pp's instead. Functionality of the jr.pmp should be more or less identical to plugmultiparam. Its part of jr.abstractions that can be downloaded from here: http:// sonicescape.net/maxmsp/ /Jakob From jacopo at lan-muzic.com Mon Apr 21 04:45:48 2008 From: jacopo at lan-muzic.com (Jabbo) Date: Mon Apr 21 04:45:52 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: plugmultiparam Live 7.0.3 Screen update In-Reply-To: <20080421100528.797777660@mail2.bahnhof.se> Message-ID: <21a46.480c705c@www.cycling74.com> Thanks!!! Indeed it works like this Came in VERY handy, fantastic... Marvels of the Resource list! Was going this workaround,when blong, here it came. Thanks again! Though I ask myself if this happens only with Live? Grazie and Ciao From elt at altern.org Mon Apr 21 05:50:34 2008 From: elt at altern.org (elt) Date: Mon Apr 21 05:50:39 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: plugmultiparam Live 7.0.3 Screen update In-Reply-To: <21a46.480c705c@www.cycling74.com> References: <21a46.480c705c@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: yes what you describe for plugmultiparam is exact in ableton live. the workaround is effectively to use bunch of pp's. thx for your abstraction, Jakob. -- elt@altern.org http://pan-etc.net -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/pluggo/attachments/20080421/6d437cc9/attachment.htm From keith.hedger at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 14:12:52 2008 From: keith.hedger at gmail.com (Keith Hedger) Date: Mon Apr 21 14:12:59 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Some pluggo info needed... Message-ID: <21a7d.480cf543@www.cycling74.com> Hi all, I'm not a pluggo user (yet) and I have some questions that I hope one or more of you might be able to answer for me. I interested in using pluggo as a processing system within Plugue Bidule to process acoustic trumpet. I have a few conceptual questions that are not being answered by the FAQ. 1) Is there a way to save the settings for the particuluar pluggos between sessions, or do the parameters have to be readjusted everytime that pluggo is restarted? 2) does pluggo support MIDI CC control over pluggo parameters? 3) can individual pluggos be assigned different MIDI channels? I would like to use an external controller to adjust the parameters in the different pluggos, instead of the mouse, if possible... Thanks, keith From ben.kamen at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 15:24:05 2008 From: ben.kamen at gmail.com (ben kamen) Date: Tue Apr 22 15:24:11 2008 Subject: [pluggo] pluggo plugparams in DP Message-ID: <21b24.480e5773@www.cycling74.com> hey i posted this question accidentally on the MSP board yesterday. i've make some VSTi's with Pluggo and they work fine, except that Digital Performer won't remember the settings of my patches. I have all the pp's set up properly - (i think!) it just doesn't remember the parameters when i re-open my projects any ideas? max v2; #N vpatcher 0 45 282 173; #P origin 431 321; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P hidden newex -142 81 35 196617 * 0.01; #N pp 6 Bend -35 35 Hz; #P hidden newobj 189 185 102 196617 pp 6 Bend -35 35 Hz; #P window setfont Verdana 10.; #P comment 32 51 34 472055818 bend; #P user dial 66 49 19 19 70 1 -35 0 222 270 1 1. 170 170 170 255 255 255 120 120 120 225 225 225 0 0 0 0 0 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P hidden newex -237 4 125 196617 rampsmooth~ 1000 1000; #P hidden flonum -204 28 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden toggle 235 -126 15 0; #P hidden newex 242 -86 64 196617 metro 1000; #P hidden message 196 -104 37 196617 metro; #P hidden user ezdac~ -259 140 -215 173 0; #P hidden newex -235 49 27 196617 *~; #P hidden message 277 318 59 196617 capture \$1; #P hidden message 321 259 35 196617 set \$1; #P hidden number 321 238 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden number 280 287 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P hidden button 280 248 27 0; #P hidden comment 241 256 35 196617 Store!; #P hidden comment 279 223 115 196617 Store Program Number:; #N pp 5 AttackShape -99 0 ??; #P hidden newobj 343 85 132 196617 pp 5 AttackShape -99 0 ??; #N pp 3 AttackShape 1 100 ??; #P hidden newobj 234 124 133 196617 pp 3 AttackShape 1 100 ??; #N pp 4 DecayTime 0 1280 CentaSe; #P hidden newobj 366 -60 156 196617 pp 4 DecayTime 0 1280 CentaSe; #N pp 2 AttackTime 0 65 CentaSe; #P hidden newobj 186 101 147 196617 pp 2 AttackTime 0 65 CentaSe; #N pp 1 Pitch 30 130 Hz; #P hidden newobj 189 162 105 196617 pp 1 Pitch 30 130 Hz; #N plugconfig; #C useviews 0 1 1 1; #C numprograms 8; #C preempt 1; #C sigvschange 1; #C sigvsdefault 32; #C setsize 340 120; #C defaultview Interface 0 -30 0; #C dragscroll 1; #C noinfo; #C package ????; #C setprogram 1 "Program 1" 0 0.38 0.169231 0.171717 0.71875 0.79798; #C setprogram 2 "Program 2" 0 0.38 0.169231 0.171717 0.71875 0.79798; 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#P pop; From dkgross at mac.com Thu Apr 24 13:43:26 2008 From: dkgross at mac.com (Dave Gross) Date: Thu Apr 24 13:43:32 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: Re: Pluggo RTAS in PT 7.4? In-Reply-To: <478665B7.6040900@cycling74.com> Message-ID: <21dbc.4810e2dd@www.cycling74.com> andrew..if I have time this weekend, I'll try your troubleshooting process and see if I can help narrow it down...For now, I can certainly confrim that there's an issue. however...I have a LOT of plugins...UAD cards, etc...so figuring out EXACTLY which one is causing grief might be a complex process :) dave gross helldogmusic.com From info at redshiftmedia.com Sat Apr 26 06:37:00 2008 From: info at redshiftmedia.com (bitbutter) Date: Sat Apr 26 06:37:05 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: how many audio-inputs ? In-Reply-To: <4b81fc8537ec0399f1662fbb624037dc@altern.org> Message-ID: <21f4e.481321ea@www.cycling74.com> Quote: fp wrote on Thu, 19 April 2007 10:47 ---------------------------------------------------- > i think it's impossible with ableton... > it doesn't manage multichannels. Hi. Ableton live recognises the extra channels correctly (I'm working on a simple dual stereo crossfader for use in ableton live at the moment). Here's how it seems to work: Say you have a pluggo with three stereo input pairs on on track one, [plugin~ 1 2 3 4 5 6] . One track two select '1-Audio' as the output destination (it's set to 'master' by default). Then a second dropdown box becomes active beneath the main output dropdown, allowing you to choose which stereo input pair you want it to be routed to. Here's how the options map to the inputs: Track In (1 2) 3-YouPluggoName (3 4) 5-YourPluggoName (5 6) From jacopo at lan-muzic.com Sat Apr 26 06:58:45 2008 From: jacopo at lan-muzic.com (Jabbo) Date: Sat Apr 26 06:58:50 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: plugmultiparam Live 7.0.3 Screen update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21f51.48132705@www.cycling74.com> I am again stuck with Live 7.0.3 Pattrstorage is giving me again the same problems as rosetta Live did pattrstorage unable to load bundle executable kind of messages. happens to anyone else? What do I get wrong? From stewart.collinson at mac.com Sat Apr 26 13:45:06 2008 From: stewart.collinson at mac.com (stewart collinson) Date: Sat Apr 26 13:45:11 2008 Subject: [pluggo] live hipno problem Message-ID: <21f98.48138642@www.cycling74.com> Hello, I've just downloaded and installed hipno (and awaiting authorisation). I understand that at the moment the plugins can be used but are interrupted intermittently; but my problem is that when I launch Live (6.0.7) it crashes as it begins to load the hipno plugins. I tried a second time and Live reported that it had encountered a problem with Amogwai, the first in the list, and gave me the choice of ignoring it and loading the rest. It crashed as it tried to load the next in the list. A third attempt had the same result with the next in the list. I'm assuming that this will happen with each plugin. When I remove the hipno folder from my vst plugins folder, Live opens as normal. I've searched in the forum and wider for any conflict reports but have found nothing. I'm in the process of learning and using Max/MSP/Jitter 4.6/1.6x (3 months in). My principal interest is in Jitter as I'm coming to it as a visual artist but have been using Live for a few years, and have not encountered this problem before I'd be grateful for any help and advice. PBook G4 1.5ghz 1 gb ram 10.4.11 many thanks foxley From lawkyz at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 04:04:25 2008 From: lawkyz at gmail.com (Zawai) Date: Mon Apr 28 04:04:29 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Problem with Pluggo & Protools 7.4 In-Reply-To: <20fc2.47ea0d44@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <220a0.4815a129@www.cycling74.com> Hello I tried some things but no way. My pluggo doesn't work with protools 7.4cs4 I have macpro with Protools LE When I try to use pluggo in insert, my protools crashes When I try to use pluggo in AS mode, my protools crashes.. Do you have an idea to use correctly the plugins ??? Thanks From neridaj at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 16:51:10 2008 From: neridaj at gmail.com (Jason) Date: Mon Apr 28 16:51:16 2008 Subject: [pluggo] DP 5 PLuggo Problems Message-ID: <22146.481654de@www.cycling74.com> Hello, It sounds like there may be compatibility issues with Pluggo and DP 5 running on Leopard, is this true? I just rebuilt my setup as follows and DP 5 crashes with Pluggo installed: iMac: 2.8GHz Intel 4 GB RAM OS 10.5.2 MacBook: 2.4 GHz Intel 4GB RAM Pluggo 3.6.1 DP 5.13 Thanks, Jason From andrew at cycling74.com Tue Apr 29 15:29:37 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Tue Apr 29 15:29:41 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: DP 5 PLuggo Problems In-Reply-To: <22146.481654de@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <22233.48179340@www.cycling74.com> Several users have indicated that they have had startup issues running Pluggo 3.6.1 with Digital Performer 5.1.3 on Leopard. Although Cycling '74 does not officially support Pluggo running on Leopard, most users have been able to get Pluggo 3.6.1 up and running just fine, and we have not been able to replicate the startup issues with Digital Performer. If you are having errors on startup of Digital Performer, the first thing to do is a clean install by running the C74 Plug-In Cleaner included in the installer. If this doesn't seem to help, several users were able to get started by doing the following: 1. Remove all of the Virtual Instruments (i.e. Laverne, pgs-1, etc.) from .../Library/Audio/Plug-ins/VST/Pluggo 2. Run Audio Unit Scan 3. Start up DP to see if Pluggo is working 4. Quit DP and return all "Virtual Instrument" Pluggos (so that now all Pluggos are back in place) 5. Run Audio Unit Scan and Launch DP From andrew at cycling74.com Tue Apr 29 15:33:02 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Tue Apr 29 15:33:12 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Problem with Pluggo & Protools 7.4 In-Reply-To: <220a0.4815a129@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <22234.4817940d@www.cycling74.com> AudioSuite is currently broken in PT 7.4 But inserts work fine. Please use the installer to clean t your pluggo install, then resinstall. If you have other problems, please contact support at cycling 74 dot com. -A From andrew at cycling74.com Tue Apr 29 15:39:01 2008 From: andrew at cycling74.com (Andrew Pask) Date: Tue Apr 29 15:39:05 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: live hipno problem In-Reply-To: <21f98.48138642@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <22235.48179574@www.cycling74.com> Try using the cleaner from the installer, then reinstall. Make sure you run the AudioUnit scan runs ok. Does Hipno work ok in other apps? If so, maybe if you clear out Live's prefs you might be good again. -A From lawkyz at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 04:54:25 2008 From: lawkyz at gmail.com (Zawai) Date: Wed Apr 30 09:43:24 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Problem with Pluggo & Protools 7.4 In-Reply-To: <20fc2.47ea0d44@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <22276.48184fe0@www.cycling74.com> Hello, I clean the pluggo, uninstall, reinstall several times, and the result is no way : Audiosuite is broken ok, BUT insert mode too. As I Launch a pluggo (I test all one by one) in insert mode in my protools, it crashes the soft. I don't have any idea : why is it bug ? Please help me Thanks From stewart.collinson at mac.com Wed Apr 30 15:33:28 2008 From: stewart.collinson at mac.com (stewart collinson) Date: Wed Apr 30 15:33:33 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: live hipno problem In-Reply-To: <22235.48179574@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <222ec.4818e5a8@www.cycling74.com> Thanks for your advice Andrew, I ran the cleaner and it removed files, but when I ran the installer, a warning appeared: that my hd contains a newer version. A spotlight search revealed a number of hipno related files, but nothing other than the pkg and dmg and ableton logs refering to the hipno plugins live encountered as it launched. I tried a search for pluggo, again, pkg, dmg plus ableton log from a previous version of live along with plug-prefixed max xml files Probably because I dont fully understand the implications (if there are any) of installing over this elusive, newer version, I'll hold off for the moment. Is Pluggo Runtime included in the Hipno installation , or do I need to install it separately? once again, thanks for your reply, Stewart From bruce at skeletonhome.com Wed Apr 30 15:55:59 2008 From: bruce at skeletonhome.com (Bruce Tovsky) Date: Wed Apr 30 15:56:06 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: live hipno problem In-Reply-To: <222ec.4818e5a8@www.cycling74.com> References: <222ec.4818e5a8@www.cycling74.com> Message-ID: <4DBAE1B5-A604-43B2-B141-688F6A858BAD@skeletonhome.com> i've seen this just about every time i (re)install pluggo/hipno and after much consternation and searching was told to "just ignore it." which i did and had no issues. cheers b On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:33 PM, stewart collinson wrote: > > Thanks for your advice Andrew, > > I ran the cleaner and it removed files, > but when I ran the installer, > a warning appeared: > that my hd contains a newer version. > > A spotlight search revealed > a number of hipno related files, > but nothing other than the pkg and dmg > and ableton logs refering to the hipno > plugins live encountered as it launched. > > I tried a search for pluggo, > again, pkg, dmg plus ableton log > from a previous version of live > along with plug-prefixed max xml files > > > Probably because I dont fully understand > the implications (if there are any) of installing > over this elusive, newer version, > I'll hold off for the moment. > > Is Pluggo Runtime included in the Hipno installation , > or do I need to install it separately? > > > > once again, thanks for your reply, > > Stewart > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pluggo mailing list > pluggo@cycling74.com > http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/pluggo bruce tovsky www.skeletonhome.com "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.cycling74.com/pipermail/pluggo/attachments/20080430/223bb71a/attachment.htm From stewart.collinson at mac.com Wed Apr 30 19:01:12 2008 From: stewart.collinson at mac.com (stewart collinson) Date: Wed Apr 30 19:01:15 2008 Subject: [pluggo] Re: Re: live hipno problem In-Reply-To: <4DBAE1B5-A604-43B2-B141-688F6A858BAD@skeletonhome.com> Message-ID: <222fb.48191658@www.cycling74.com> thanks, live's alive again, with added hipno Stewart